Are you ready for 7 million people on tiny Singapore?
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Heck, most of us KSPs don’t even want our kids to become singers, dancers, actors, models, musicians or anything else on the front line of the entertainment industry…
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pirate:
Heck, most of us KSPs don't even want our kids to become singers, dancers, actors, models, musicians or anything else on the front line of the entertainment industry...
Most parents want their children to become medical doctors or lawyers. if not , then a PSC scholarships is the best...More prestigious. But after getting the PSC scholarship, find that investment banking make more money, so break bonds. -
sinoboy:
low class job? :scratchhead:[/quote]So how? Do Singaporeans expect our government to come up with:
Yup.. wonder if there is a term for that?limlim:
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I think we need to be careful when we say we have skilled workers who are willing to take up PMET jobs. There are many jobs that locals do not want to do or are unwilling to learn or acquire enough experience to do, that are strictly speaking not 'FW' jobs. At least, these are not jobs that us KSPs would want our children to do when they grow if we can help it. Examples include:
Nurses, mechanics, plumbers, electricians, welders, construction foremen, site clerks, cooks, heavy vehicle drivers, account clerks, frontline retail, service and hospitality staff, etc.
(1) hospitals with doctors but no nurses and orderlies;
(2) restaurants with restaurant managers but no cooks and service staff;
(3) hotels with managers and PR executives but no housekeeping, receptionists and service staff;
(4) construction firms with architects and structural engineers but no site foremen, clerk of works, supervisors, plumbers, electricians, etc;
(5) factories with engineers, and executives but no factory workers;
(6) retail shops with purchasing and sales managers but no sales staff?
And since we don't like filthy rich foreigners buying up all our COEs and Sentosa properties:
(7) financial industry where foreigners' money is welcome but they are not. -
pirate:
Why not, I grew up in the environment that taught me all honest jobs earn a living, all jobs are respectable. There are different skills but not highly or lowly; We are too easy to forget our forefathers came to Singapore as Ku Lis and many early immigrants from Asia to USA or Australia worked their way up from waiters, delivery men, etc. Now we might be seem better off than those FWs who take care our children, clean our toilets and building our homes and drive our bus and trains... but essentially, we are not Superior than any one of them.
I think we need to be careful when we say we have skilled workers who are willing to take up PMET jobs. There are many jobs that locals do not want to do or are unwilling to learn or acquire enough experience to do, that are strictly speaking not 'FW' jobs. At least, these are not jobs that us KSPs would want our children to do when they grow if we can help it. Examples include:
Nurses, mechanics, plumbers, electricians, welders, construction foremen, site clerks, cooks, heavy vehicle drivers, account clerks, frontline retail, service and hospitality staff, etc. -
WeiHan:
No offense but PSC is hardly the best scorership. Actually there are parents wanting their kids to singers, dancers, actors and providing them with drama training from young. But the parents either belong to the lower echelons of the society or wealthy but just not very academically inclined. Sing well may become another Gangnam Psy or yield an angmo husband you know. :rahrah:pirate:
Heck, most of us KSPs don't even want our kids to become singers, dancers, actors, models, musicians or anything else on the front line of the entertainment industry...
Most parents want their children to become medical doctors or lawyers. if not , then a PSC scholarships is the best...More prestigious. -
WeiHan:
Most parents want their children to become medical doctors or lawyers. if not , then a PSC scholarships is the best...More prestigious. But after getting the PSC scholarship, find that investment banking make more money, so break bonds.
And then the kids complain that lawyers, doctors and investment bankers have no work-life balance because their rich clients and patients are ridiculously demanding. -
pirate:
So how? Do Singaporeans expect our government to come up with:
low class job? :scratchhead:sinoboy:
[quote=\"limlim\"]
Yup.. wonder if there is a term for that?
(1) hospitals with doctors but no nurses and orderlies;
(2) restaurants with restaurant managers but no cooks and service staff;
(3) hotels with managers and PR executives but no housekeeping, receptionists and service staff;
(4) construction firms with architects and structural engineers but no site foremen, clerk of works, supervisors, plumbers, electricians, etc;
(5) factories with engineers, and executives but no factory workers;
(6) retail shops with purchasing and sales managers but no sales staff?
And since we don't like filthy rich foreigners buying up all our COEs and Sentosa properties:
(7) financial industry where foreigners' money is welcome but they are not.[/quote]I guess for a while the Singapore manager vs. FW worker relationship worked eg. Singaporean doctors with foreign nurses. But when the outstanding, cheaper, more hardworking FW replaces the Singaporean manager and exacerbated by slowing economic conditions problem sets in. :lightrod: -
ruohoo97:
Why not indeed? That's precisely the point I am making. And then we complain that the education system here is too stressful. But I would be lying if I said that I look forward to DD doing one of these jobs when she grows up.
Why not, I grew up in the environment that taught me all honest jobs earn a living, all jobs are respectable. There are different skills but not highly or lowly; We are too easy to forget our forefathers came to Singapore as Ku Lis and many early immigrants from Asia to USA or Australia worked their way up from waiters, delivery men, etc. Now we might be seem better off than those FWs who take care our children, clean our toilets and building our homes and drive our bus and trains... but essentially, we are not Superior than any one of them.pirate:
I think we need to be careful when we say we have skilled workers who are willing to take up PMET jobs. There are many jobs that locals do not want to do or are unwilling to learn or acquire enough experience to do, that are strictly speaking not 'FW' jobs. At least, these are not jobs that us KSPs would want our children to do when they grow if we can help it. Examples include:
Nurses, mechanics, plumbers, electricians, welders, construction foremen, site clerks, cooks, heavy vehicle drivers, account clerks, frontline retail, service and hospitality staff, etc.
If we are honest about it. It's not the government's fault. It's our own fault. -
pirate:
Why not indeed? That's precisely the point I am making. And then we complain that the education system here is too stressful. But I would be lying if I said that I look forward to DD doing one of these jobs when she grows up.
Why not, I grew up in the environment that taught me all honest jobs earn a living, all jobs are respectable. There are different skills but not highly or lowly; We are too easy to forget our forefathers came to Singapore as Ku Lis and many early immigrants from Asia to USA or Australia worked their way up from waiters, delivery men, etc. Now we might be seem better off than those FWs who take care our children, clean our toilets and building our homes and drive our bus and trains... but essentially, we are not Superior than any one of them.ruohoo97:
[quote=\"pirate\"]
I think we need to be careful when we say we have skilled workers who are willing to take up PMET jobs. There are many jobs that locals do not want to do or are unwilling to learn or acquire enough experience to do, that are strictly speaking not 'FW' jobs. At least, these are not jobs that us KSPs would want our children to do when they grow if we can help it. Examples include:
Nurses, mechanics, plumbers, electricians, welders, construction foremen, site clerks, cooks, heavy vehicle drivers, account clerks, frontline retail, service and hospitality staff, etc.
If we are honest about it. It's not the government's fault. It's our own fault.[/quote]Yes, I totally agree with you on this!
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