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    Are you ready for 7 million people on tiny Singapore?

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    • R Offline
      raysusan
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      http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379316_608040349212552_165554393_n.jpg\">

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        raysusan
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        http://www.bloomberg.com/video/singaporeans-plan-a-protest-next-week-80afGFGdShiIbrB5nhmjTQ.html

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          toddles
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          3Boys:
          From LLL


          \"In a recent ST report, Singapore sees an average of 12,000 abortions a year, and 4 out of 10 women who went for abortions were single women. Reducing the discrimination against single mothers may reduce the likelihood of single mothers having to resort to terminating their pregnancies for fear of lack of support. Furthermore, for a country suffering from a fertility crisis, each child should be valued, and not punished simply because he or she is born to unmarried parents.\"

          Are we as a society, ready for this?
          This was also raised by another PAP MP right?

          I don't think there's as much discrimination as lack of support in terms of qualifying for the usual stuff parents qualify for. Because govt is worried that it will exacerbate problem... but urm, I don't think unmarried folks think about that when they urm, get pregnant.

          Facilitate adoptions?

          I dunno, I'd say it's worth doing whatever it takes to make it easier for women who want to keep their children, keep their children. Or for women who want to have their children, but who are incapable of raising them - give them all the support necessary, and VWOs can step in to help raise these kids for Singapore / place them in loving foster homes?

          3boys, what is your take on whether we are ready for this as a society?

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            pirate
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            pirate:
            (4) Freeze total no. of foreign workers, presumably including EPs (\"We should strive to keep our foreign labour force constant between now and 2020, depending on our success in growing the local labour force. It does not mean that we shut the doors to foreign workers. Instead, new work passes will be issued only to replace expiring work passes or to supplement shortfalls in the local labour force.\" - per NCMP Gerald Giam)

            Actually, this one I have an issue with. How is this to be implemented?

            Does it mean that new set-ups will not be able to get foreign workers because all quotas are already hogged by existing businesses by way of grandfather rights? Or does it mean that as and when a business' foreign workpass expires, it will have to compete with other businesses for a workpass since the demand for workpasses will be greater than the number that can be issued out? How are workpasses to be allocated? Like COEs? Does WP see this resulting in a reduction of the dependency ratio? Any idea what the reduction will be or are businesses supposed to guess? How is a business supposed to plan its manpower like that?

            Since the effect is going to be a reduction of the dependency ratio anyway, why not just make a roadmap for the reduction of the dependency ratio? Wouldn't it make it easier for businesses to plan ahead? Or does the proposal primarily involve \"let's put this in place and see what happens\", thus effectively taichi-ing the uncertainty of what the dependency ratio will be to businesses?

            Will employment passes be subject to the same regime? What will be the interplay between EP and WP under such a regime?

            How will it apply to workpasses for FDWs? Are we going to have a COE system for families wishing to employ FDWs? Otherwise, how to freeze no. of FDWs? :scratchhead:

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              JannettLee
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              raysusan:
              http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379316_608040349212552_165554393_n.jpg\">

              Based on the comparison, I must say WP scores better than PAP's

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                JannettLee
                last edited by

                raysusan:
                http://www.bloomberg.com/video/singaporeans-plan-a-protest-next-week-80afGFGdShiIbrB5nhmjTQ.html

                Singaporeans Plan a Protest Next Week! :yikes:

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                  concern2
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                  Harlequin:
                  sunflower:

                  [quote=\"Harlequin\"]
                  Haha, li mai hai yee hor lang tuar hor :heresmyfish: yee bo kong shi IS lar... Wa dak 3 pai pun dak bei qu yee wu kong tio IS. :spank:

                  Soli hor, me no language expert, can talk English or not har? :please: Singlish also can. Dialect hor, I need to read one word at a time, very the cham….Jap ah, liat boh giu. Chinese no problem, but hor, some non-Chinese here may not understand. Similarly for Malay language. Oh! Scali come out French, German etc… :faint: Please don’t hor, by that time, I may think I’m suddenly transported to other countries already! :slapshead:


                  Lang tak ang moh chek, wa tak jip poon chek. Wa kong ang moh wei ma ciam pei kee landing, ti ti loh. Lang kong ang moh wei ma ciam helicopter landing, ser lai ser kee 3, 40 kuan bah lu che jik eh tight spot lai landing....
                  Gu poon si, mai kong shi wa! :faint:

                  Heng chai wa lao pei teochew lao bu hokkien, wa eh teochew hokkien koh eh sai pa kei.

                  So li, so li, kong liam buoy jit pai. :imsorry:[/quote]Harlequin - da wei oi sai, type ki lai ne, toi liao guai guai leh :? Mai type teo chew liao lah, bo dang hor lang pa! 😆 (the last 3 words purposely typed in hokkien, if pronounced wrongly lagi more funny! :rotflmao: )

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                    3Boys
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                    JannettLee:
                    raysusan:

                    http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379316_608040349212552_165554393_n.jpg\">


                    Based on the comparison, I must say WP scores better than PAP's

                    It's such an obvious piece of propaganda and you are falling for it?

                    I can also say 'Strong economic growth is in the best interest of Singaporeans'.

                    How, you believe me or not?

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                      ruohoo97
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                      raysusan:
                      http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379316_608040349212552_165554393_n.jpg\">
                      :goodpost:

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                        3Boys
                        last edited by

                        raysusan:
                        http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379316_608040349212552_165554393_n.jpg\">

                        How does this not count as propaganda that does not even stand the slightest scrutiny. Just a number of empty promises, cast a few strawmen in the PAP's direction, and voila, everyone taken hook line and sinker.

                        People will believe what they want to believe. Since when did the g'ment say that elderly are not productive? Have they not been trying to raise retirement age for years? And how many people have agreed with that?

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