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    The Real Reason Why We Send Our Children to Tuition

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    • J Offline
      Just relax
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      Beautyful Minds:
      janet_lee88:

      [quote=\"Just relax\"]Having a tutor depends on family situation (can afford?) and on child situation (can score 95+ without tuition?)


      There are many who have tuition. Even this family i know of, who is struggling with one breadwinner working as bus driver to support 5 family members.

      We never believe money should be a reason why any child is being marginalized by not having some additional help outside of school. In the past, we offset our fees for parents who have difficulties. We have no qualms about offering discount for parents who genuinely need it but getting some parents to step out and tell us they need it has proved to be a problem. Whereas for the possibility of abuse, we would like to think most parents are kind enough not to.

      If anyone knows someone who genuinely can't afford tuition, please direct them to us. We will do what we can to help.[/quote]You do not need to ask KSPs to tell u, just visit the various social services centres such Beyond Service, and u will get the real stories of poor families who already receive assistance but could always do with more.

      There are also families that do not want assistance through the official systems but if u speak to the social workers u will find out who they are and may be u can approach the families directly to help.

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        Geraldinelim
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        janet_lee88:
        So the truth is, regardless how poor a family is, if there is a need for tuition, many will go for it. I definitely buy tuition now. In the past, I refused to, bcos I do not see the reason why kids go to school need it.


        Someone told me of this student...his father refused to shell out money for tuition but will easily buy shares. Rich, not poor at all.

        Some feel that if their kids are very close to getting A*, they will pay any amount to secure it. Going to school is like visiting polyclinic...quality is questionable. But going for tuition is like seeing a specialist...specialist can pinpoint the weakness (particular sickness) and work on it. 🦆
        I totally agree with u!

        But this could only apply if you engage the best tutor.

        A good tutor not only could pinpoint ur child's weakness. The tutor is also able to help to strengthen her weakness, motivate and bring out the best in your child.

        I am glad I found my tutor cos she's exactly what I've been wanting to get for my kids all my life.

        A life coach and mentor who understands my children and has interest to help them to achieve their best 🙂

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        • jedamumJ Offline
          jedamum
          last edited by

          How to interpret successful family coaching? Is psle results a bench mark for success?

          For one, I see one successfully keep the kid out of tuition and the kid did very well in psle.but the mum hasa phd and the grandma was a chinese teachrr.
          The other case, is a boy, did very well for his psle. Mainstream and no tuition. He is an inspiration to me but I don’t have the guts to forgo tuition.

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          • C Offline
            cherrygal
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            Agree with beautyful minds. My boy wouldn’t need to go for tuition IF he could sit down and do everything I tell him to do without a whimper. I need to say something >10x or lose my temper. Whereas the tuition teacher only has to say the same thing once. External tuition is a small price to pay to maintain harmony in the home.


            I have seen cases of successful parent-coached kids but that’s a minority and there are 2 important factors - 1) the educated parent has to be a very patient person, and 2) the kid has a matured and obedient personality.

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            • W Offline
              wonderm
              last edited by

              When personal coaching is needed, either DH or I do it with our boys. We found it effective so far, and it allows us to bond with the boys and know them better.

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                ammonite
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                cherrygal:
                Agree with beautyful minds. My boy wouldn't need to go for tuition IF he could sit down and do everything I tell him to do without a whimper. I need to say something >10x or lose my temper. Whereas the tuition teacher only has to say the same thing once. External tuition is a small price to pay to maintain harmony in the home.


                I have seen cases of successful parent-coached kids but that's a minority and there are 2 important factors - 1) the educated parent has to be a very patient person, and 2) the kid has a matured and obedient personality.
                We are far from PSLE, but I would consider my coaching sufficient at this point as he has been able to catch up and keep up despite a difficult start. I agree that (1) is important, but (2) helps whether it is parent or tutor. There was a boy in the neighborhood whose tutors left in quick succession because he openly ignored them through the lesson.

                I feel the important factors are patience, knowledge and flexibility. The parent must be as flexible as any tutor in finding a way to present the material the child. Many parents expect their children to learn the way they do, but this is not true. To successfully coach your own child, you have to do what any other good tutor does - observe the child closely to see what he does not understand, the tipping point for frustration, and the point when things click. You have to lead and guide the child. i can do it for academic subjects, so my children do not go to tutors for that. But i cannot do it for music because I do not know how to present the information in a clear way that will lay the foundation for the long term and I do not have the inclination to read up extensively on that. Similarly, my husband does not have the patience and inclination to teach them art despite having a degree in fine arts.

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                • janet88J Offline
                  janet88
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                  My kids need tuition…it’s hard to get something across without having to repeat 10 times without getting frustrated…even with tuition, we have to revise what they were taught during that period…hubby and I coach one either of them every night. It’s less stressful to be on the ‘back end’…we work closely with tutors to reinforce.


                  Son is in Sec 1…I wanted to take him out of tuition, but hubby said no way.
                  Languages are tougher as well as Math…the rest we can handle. Son dare not go without tuition for languages either.

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                    Dilbert_A1
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                    The real reasons why your kids need tuition:


                    a) teacher-student ratio in school is simply too big.

                    The average ratio is roughly one teacher to 40 students.

                    If a teacher teaches 5 different classes, then the teacher has to handle about 200 different students each day.

                    In a primary school, if the teacher teachers both EL and Math, then the teacher has to mark about 80 sheets of homework each day. If a class has 40 pupils, and your teacher spends about 5 minutes to mark each compo or homework, then your teacher has to spend about 200 minutes to mark one class worth of homework for that particular day.

                    If your typical kiasu parent wants the teacher to give homework every single day, then the teacher needs to set aside 200 minutes a day just to finish marking the homework.


                    b) Your school teachers are too busy with their non-teaching duties.

                    All full-time MOE teachers are too busy to be teachers. They have to run CCAs, take part in school projects, science competition, do Action Research projects, and other school projects. This is not counting handling the normal discipline cases and dealing with parents who demand this and that, especially primary school parents.
                    Not to mention all the office politics, due to MOE system having an inofficial quota to penalize 5% of the teachers each year with ‘D’ or ‘C-’ work reviews. Such a system encourages back-stabbing and politicking. No big deal, you might say, since some of you politick even more in your own workplace. But you should ask yourself if you want your kids to be educated by adults who act professional in front of you but backstab and politick like crazy behind your backs?

                    MOE also set the performance review such that teachers who focus on teaching only will be penalized professionally. So, the teachers learn their lesson and divert attention from teaching.

                    If your child’s teacher spends her afternoons on CCA and meetings and project work, it means the teacher won’t be spending time to prepare for the classroom lessons or marking assignment.

                    I have teacher friends in uniformed groups who burn weekends on leadership camps, and the following Monday is a school day. Homework is not yet marked, lessons for the following week is not prepared. How to prepare, when the teacher has to run around with the students at some remote camp site? So, the weekly lesson is prepared within 10-20 minutes, and the teacher relies on superior content knowledge to carry the lesson through.

                    The problem is made worse when schools plan their activities around the basis that teachers are expected to bring home their work on a daily basis.
                    If the school demands that your child’s teacher not ‘waste’ school hours on ‘non-productive’ work such as marking and preparing lessons, then your child’s teacher has to bring all these work home to be done on her own private time.

                    But many teachers need their private time to take care of kids. You really think most teachers are so free to moonlight as tutors? Just because you can name one or two, it doesn’t mean that half the school staff is moonlighting as tutors.

                    Teachers who moonlight as tutors basically are teachers fed up with the system. Fed up of the school always making them put teaching as second priority, and all non-teaching duties as more urgent and more important. You really think your average school teacher is twiddling thumbs or have lots of free time to update facebook status?

                    MOE has indirectly clammed down on teachers moonlighting by assigning more and more work across the board. Meaningful or not is not important. More important to keep the teachers overloaded and burnt out, so that they would be too busy and too tired to think.

                    Why do you think so many teachers want to quit and give tuition? Tuition is a low-entry barrier industry. Even a student waiting to do NS or some undergrad can do it. Most teachers who give tuition are prepared to take a pay cut and accept some job instability due to competition or chao-kuan parents who delay tuition after week 3 to delay payment. But it is worth it, in return for a better quality of life.

                    In short, your child needs tuition because your school teachers are too busy and too tired to teach well. If that is that case, then you need someone to do the teacher’s job for them.

                    Private tuition, by the way, only started to flourish since the 2000s, around the same time when MOE introduced the ranking system, to pit teacher against teacher, to make them compete with each other. So, when your child does well, do you think it reflects more of the efforts of the school, or more on the thousands of dollars you spent on private tuition?

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                    • jedamumJ Offline
                      jedamum
                      last edited by

                      Agree that teachers nowadays are a busy lot.

                      We are privileged to come across those who drop little notes of encouragement on every written piece of work, most personalised to that particular assignment. These teachers are gems!

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                      • janet88J Offline
                        janet88
                        last edited by

                        Dilbert_A1:
                        The real reasons why you need tuition:


                        a) teacher-student ratio in school is simply too big.

                        The average ratio is roughly one teacher to 40 students.

                        If a teacher teaches 5 different classes, then the teacher has to handle about 200 different students each day.

                        In a primary school, if the teacher teachers both EL and Math, then the teacher has to mark about 80 sheets of homework each day. If a class has 40 pupils, and your teacher spends about 5 minutes to mark each compo or homework, then your teacher has to spend about 200 minutes to mark one class worth of homework for that particular day.

                        If your typical kiasu parent wants the teacher to give homework every single day, then the teacher needs to set aside 200 minutes a day just to finish marking the homework.


                        b) Your school teachers are too busy with their non-teaching duties.

                        All full-time MOE teachers are too busy to be teachers. They have to run CCAs, take part in school projects, science competition, do Action Research projects, and other school projects. This is not counting handling the normal discipline cases and dealing with parents who demand this and that, especially primary school parents.
                        Not to mention all the office politics, due to MOE system having an inofficial quota to penalize 5% of the teachers each year with 'D' or 'C-' work reviews. Such a system encourages back-stabbing and politicking. No big deal, you might say, since some of you politick even more in your own workplace. But you should ask yourself if you want your kids to be educated by adults who act professional in front of you but backstab and politick like crazy behind your backs?

                        MOE also set the performance review such that teachers who focus on teaching only will be penalized professionally. So, the teachers learn their lesson and divert attention from teaching.

                        If your child's teacher spends her afternoons on CCA and meetings and project work, it means the teacher won't be spending time to prepare for the classroom lessons or marking assignment.

                        I have teacher friends in uniformed groups who burn weekends on leadership camps, and the following Monday is a school day. Homework is not yet marked, lessons for the following week is not prepared. How to prepare, when the teacher has to run around with the students at some remote camp site? So, the weekly lesson is prepared within 10-20 minutes, and the teacher relies on superior content knowledge to carry the lesson through.

                        The problem is made worse when schools plan their activities around the basis that teachers are expected to bring home their work on a daily basis.
                        If the school demands that your child's teacher not 'waste' school hours on 'non-productive' work such as marking and preparing lessons, then your child's teacher has to bring all these work home to be done on her own private time.

                        But many teachers need their private time to take care of kids. You really think most teachers are so free to moonlight as tutors? Just because you can name one or two, it doesn't mean that half the school staff is moonlighting as tutors.

                        Teachers who moonlight as tutors basically are teachers fed up with the system. Fed up of the school always making them put teaching as second priority, and all non-teaching duties as more urgent and more important. You really think your average school teacher is twiddling thumbs or have lots of free time to update facebook status?

                        MOE has indirectly clammed down on teachers moonlighting by assigning more and more work across the board. Meaningful or not is not important. More important to keep the teachers overloaded and burnt out, so that they would be too busy and too tired to think.

                        Why do you think so many teachers want to quit and give tuition? Tuition is a low-entry barrier industry. Even a student waiting to do NS or some undergrad can do it. Most teachers who give tuition are prepared to take a pay cut and accept some job instability due to competition or chao-kuan parents who delay tuition after week 3 to delay payment. But it is worth it, in return for a better quality of life.

                        In short, your child needs tuition because your school teachers are too busy and too tired to teach well. If that is that case, then you need someone to do the teacher's job for them.

                        Private tuition, by the way, only started to flourish since the 2000s, around the same time when MOE introduced the ranking system, to pit teacher against teacher, to make them compete with each other. So, when your child does well, do you think it reflects more of the efforts of the school, or more on the thousands of dollars you spent on private tuition?
                        Thanks for this post.
                        It's very sad that most of the teachers are saddled with loads of work.
                        Many are parents, yet they hardly have time and energy for their own kids.
                        These teachers have to outsource their own kids to tutors.

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