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    Tutor MathsGuru: Ask me for your burning Maths questions!

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    • MathIzzzFunM Offline
      MathIzzzFun
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      ChewingPencilLine:
      No problem. Glad to be of help... As long as it doesn't take up too much time, LOL.


      Which is why I am not going to give a complete answer to the question \"Find the possible equations of the circle which touches both coordinate axes and passes through (2,1).\"

      Basically, there should only be one possible circle right? In the first quadrant. It is not possible for a circle to touch the coordinate axes and pass through (2,1) if located in the other 3 quadrants.

      The circle should have a radius of 1 unit (larger of 2, 1 divided by 2) and should be centered at (1,1). I trust you should be able to form the equation of the circle on your own by plugging in the values into your general equation for circles.
      there are 2 possible circles ... http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8315&start=690

      cheers.

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        ChewingPencilLine
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        MathIzzzFun:
        ChewingPencilLine:

        No problem. Glad to be of help... As long as it doesn't take up too much time, LOL.


        Which is why I am not going to give a complete answer to the question \"Find the possible equations of the circle which touches both coordinate axes and passes through (2,1).\"

        Basically, there should only be one possible circle right? In the first quadrant. It is not possible for a circle to touch the coordinate axes and pass through (2,1) if located in the other 3 quadrants.

        The circle should have a radius of 1 unit (larger of 2, 1 divided by 2) and should be centered at (1,1). I trust you should be able to form the equation of the circle on your own by plugging in the values into your general equation for circles.

        there are 2 possible circles ... http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8315&start=690

        cheers.

        Sorry, but I am not too sure why? The question says \"touch the coordinate axes\", not \"cross\". I presumed that to mean 'tangential'. As such, the circle must be bounded within a quadrant. Therefore, my conclusion is that there can only be 1 such circle that passes through the point (2, 1). Can you please help to clarify?

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        • MathIzzzFunM Offline
          MathIzzzFun
          last edited by

          ChewingPencilLine:
          MathIzzzFun:

          [quote=\"ChewingPencilLine\"]No problem. Glad to be of help... As long as it doesn't take up too much time, LOL.


          Which is why I am not going to give a complete answer to the question \"Find the possible equations of the circle which touches both coordinate axes and passes through (2,1).\"

          Basically, there should only be one possible circle right? In the first quadrant. It is not possible for a circle to touch the coordinate axes and pass through (2,1) if located in the other 3 quadrants.

          The circle should have a radius of 1 unit (larger of 2, 1 divided by 2) and should be centered at (1,1). I trust you should be able to form the equation of the circle on your own by plugging in the values into your general equation for circles.

          there are 2 possible circles ... http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8315&start=690

          cheers.

          Sorry, but I am not too sure why? The question says \"touch the coordinate axes\", not \"cross\". I presumed that to mean 'tangential'. As such, the circle must be bounded within a quadrant. Therefore, my conclusion is that there can only be 1 such circle that passes through the point (2, 1). Can you please help to clarify?[/quote]I believe you have not looked at the solution at the provided link.. look at diagram closely ... both the red circle and green circle touch x and y axes, not cross them.

          the two circles are centred at (1,1) and (5,5) respectively.

          cheers.

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            ChewingPencilLine
            last edited by

            The diagram was too small for me. Sorry! 🙂

            Actually, I still ain't too sure what you're talking about!
            However, I think I understand now because I was thinking about it before I head off to bed last night (after finally finishing my project, omg) and I finally realized that there can be another circle in the same quadrant.
            Thank you! 🙂

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              ChewingPencilLine
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              Hi, MathIzzzFun. I read your PM. My apologies if you took offence to my claim that your diagram was too small for me to see the 2nd circle. Maybe it was due to the lousy colour contrast on my laptop. Maybe it was as you suggested in your PM title, that I looked at the wrong diagram (but I doubt so). In any case, I am sorry that I really could not see the diagram (as I was when I wrote that reply above ^). That is honestly not a lie, as you implied.


              It was never my intention to start a ‘war of words’ on the forum, as you so put it. I wish to help people answer their questions while improving myself, that’s all. This is why I have decided to reply your PM on the forum; I apologize here to you, publicly and openly. My apologies if you found my comments offensive. Blame this on morning grumpiness, lol.

              Anyway, I have not looked at your answers in entirety (ignored the numbers on the right) but I did look at your diagram for a substantial amount of time (5-10 minutes) because I was in a rush. In all frankness, I did feel rather offended by your accusations that I was provoking a ‘war of words’ and by your suggestions (by implications) that I was unwilling to admit my mistake, calling it ‘laughable’.

              Did I not thank you for pointing out and correcting my mistake? My apologies once again if you did not find that sufficient. I am here to learn as much as I am here to help, really.

              Also, I am sorry if it felt like someone hijacked your thread. I was bored, wanted a break from doing my homework and I wanted to help so I did the questions that were still unanswered. My apologies if that offended you.

              Ultimately, however, I did figure out the solution on my own on my way to school earlier. My apologies if you found me rude for not giving your solution more attention and time as you would have deemed reasonable and right, for wanting to get my answer right on my own. I just thought that it would be more beneficial that way.

              Basically, the center of the circle must lie on the line y = x since the circle must touch the coordinate axes. Also, the radius r is necessarily equal to h/k i.e. h = k = r. As such, you get (2 - r)^2 + (1 - r)^2 = r^2 which can be easily solved to obtain r = 1 or r = 5.

              Moral of the story: don’t do math when half-awake.

              Once again, my apologies if you found me carelessly rude with my innocent comment. Indeed, many others have looked at that diagram and found it sufficiently large. The problem lies with me, probably. Believe it or not however, I really could not see that 2nd circle even though I did look hard for it. I maintain that I was not lying and that I was not trying to provoke a ‘war of words’. Nevertheless, I apologize if it offended you.

              Thank you.

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              • MathIzzzFunM Offline
                MathIzzzFun
                last edited by

                ChewingPencilLine:
                Hi, MathIzzzFun. I read your PM. My apologies if you took offence to my claim that your diagram was too small for me to see the 2nd circle. Maybe it was due to the lousy colour contrast on my laptop. Maybe it was as you suggested in your PM title, that I looked at the wrong diagram (but I doubt so). In any case, I am sorry that I really could not see the diagram (as I was when I wrote that reply above ^). That is honestly not a lie, as you implied.


                It was never my intention to start a 'war of words' on the forum, as you so put it. I wish to help people answer their questions while improving myself, that's all. This is why I have decided to reply your PM on the forum; I apologize here to you, publicly and openly. My apologies if you found my comments offensive. Blame this on morning grumpiness, lol.

                Anyway, I have not looked at your answers in entirety (ignored the numbers on the right) but I did look at your diagram for a substantial amount of time (5-10 minutes) because I was in a rush. In all frankness, I did feel rather offended by your accusations that I was provoking a 'war of words' and by your suggestions (by implications) that I was unwilling to admit my mistake, calling it 'laughable'.

                Did I not thank you for pointing out and correcting my mistake? My apologies once again if you did not find that sufficient. I am here to learn as much as I am here to help, really.

                Also, I am sorry if it felt like someone hijacked your thread. I was bored, wanted a break from doing my homework and I wanted to help so I did the questions that were still unanswered. My apologies if that offended you.

                Ultimately, however, I did figure out the solution on my own on my way to school earlier. My apologies if you found me rude for not giving your solution more attention and time as you would have deemed reasonable and right, for wanting to get my answer right on my own. I just thought that it would be more beneficial that way.

                Basically, the center of the circle must lie on the line y = x since the circle must touch the coordinate axes. Also, the radius r is necessarily equal to h/k i.e. h = k = r. As such, you get (2 - r)^2 + (1 - r)^2 = r^2 which can be easily solved to obtain r = 1 or r = 5.

                Moral of the story: don't do math when half-awake.

                Once again, my apologies if you found me carelessly rude with my innocent comment. Indeed, many others have looked at that diagram and found it sufficiently large. The problem lies with me, probably. Believe it or not however, I really could not see that 2nd circle even though I did look hard for it. I maintain that I was not lying and that I was not trying to provoke a 'war of words'. Nevertheless, I apologize if it offended you.

                Thank you.
                1) main reason for replying to your posted answer was that the correct answer should be 2 circles, not 1 . Hijacking of thread was never an issue and was never ever in my mind, any time.

                2) my original statement was \"..to claim that the diagram is too small is really laughable ...\" ..cos I really had a good laugh cos I got lau hua also can see ma...



                cheers.

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                  ChewingPencilLine
                  last edited by

                  MathIzzzFun:
                  ChewingPencilLine:

                  Hi, MathIzzzFun. I read your PM. My apologies if you took offence to my claim that your diagram was too small for me to see the 2nd circle. Maybe it was due to the lousy colour contrast on my laptop. Maybe it was as you suggested in your PM title, that I looked at the wrong diagram (but I doubt so). In any case, I am sorry that I really could not see the diagram (as I was when I wrote that reply above ^). That is honestly not a lie, as you implied.


                  It was never my intention to start a 'war of words' on the forum, as you so put it. I wish to help people answer their questions while improving myself, that's all. This is why I have decided to reply your PM on the forum; I apologize here to you, publicly and openly. My apologies if you found my comments offensive. Blame this on morning grumpiness, lol.

                  Anyway, I have not looked at your answers in entirety (ignored the numbers on the right) but I did look at your diagram for a substantial amount of time (5-10 minutes) because I was in a rush. In all frankness, I did feel rather offended by your accusations that I was provoking a 'war of words' and by your suggestions (by implications) that I was unwilling to admit my mistake, calling it 'laughable'.

                  Did I not thank you for pointing out and correcting my mistake? My apologies once again if you did not find that sufficient. I am here to learn as much as I am here to help, really.

                  Also, I am sorry if it felt like someone hijacked your thread. I was bored, wanted a break from doing my homework and I wanted to help so I did the questions that were still unanswered. My apologies if that offended you.

                  Ultimately, however, I did figure out the solution on my own on my way to school earlier. My apologies if you found me rude for not giving your solution more attention and time as you would have deemed reasonable and right, for wanting to get my answer right on my own. I just thought that it would be more beneficial that way.

                  Basically, the center of the circle must lie on the line y = x since the circle must touch the coordinate axes. Also, the radius r is necessarily equal to h/k i.e. h = k = r. As such, you get (2 - r)^2 + (1 - r)^2 = r^2 which can be easily solved to obtain r = 1 or r = 5.

                  Moral of the story: don't do math when half-awake.

                  Once again, my apologies if you found me carelessly rude with my innocent comment. Indeed, many others have looked at that diagram and found it sufficiently large. The problem lies with me, probably. Believe it or not however, I really could not see that 2nd circle even though I did look hard for it. I maintain that I was not lying and that I was not trying to provoke a 'war of words'. Nevertheless, I apologize if it offended you.

                  Thank you.

                  1) main reason for replying to your posted answer was that the correct answer should be 2 circles, not 1 . Hijacking of thread was never an issue and was never ever in my mind, any time.

                  2) my original statement was \"..to claim that the diagram is too small is really laughable ...\" ..cos I really had a good laugh cos I got lau hua also can see ma...



                  cheers.

                  Sorry, guess I misread your PM, oops. Sorry, I was in lecture when I read it and then, I hastily wrote the above reply since I thought it urgent that I quickly apologize for having offended you. Once again, I repeat myself, my apologies if I offended you with my comment but I really could not see the second circle. Thank you.

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                    Lbetter
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                    Can anyone help solve the SMOPS first round sample question 23, 24 and 26?

                    SMOPS sample questions' link is as following:
                    http://www.hci.sg/aphelion/apmops/sample.htm
                    Many thanks!

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                      Green-apple 0
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                      I have a question for P1:


                      Bee is sitting on the right of Crystal. 2 girls are sitting between Apple and Bee. 4 girls are sitting on the left of Crystal. If Apple is the 1st from the left, who is the sixth from the right? (Ans: is Bee)

                      The question is very straight forward, however it depends on where does the "girl" facing. If they facing the audiences then the answer is Bee. How about if they seat "back face" the audience?

                      MAy I know how to solve this type of question? We always arrange "the girls" facing the audience?

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                        elishatan
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                        Two questions!


                        #1. Is the answer 57kg?
                        http://i49.tinypic.com/27yys1.jpg\">

                        #2.
                        Aisha took 30mins to walk from Village A towards Village B at a uniform speed. Baoli took 45mins to walk from Village B towards Village A at a uniform speed. Both of them started at 2.20pm.
                        a. At what time did Aisha and Baoli pass each other along the way?
                        b. At the same time that Aisha reached Village B, Carol started to walk from Village A towards Village B at the same uniform speed as Aisha. At what time did Baoli and Carol meet?

                        Thank you!

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