All About Preparing For PSLE
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Dreamgear:
Your stance and your cousin's experience are not in sync, what would you make of that?[/quote]My cousin's issue I will share next time. I do not see why one's failure should deter others. If he decides to go for ip, he must be responsible for his decision. But if he choose the O level program, it's acceptable to me too. Kids must be responsible for their choices.
I won't allow my son to DSA to any school. He has to go in because he is qualified. Not by any backdoors. Currently, I am teaching a few IP students who got in through DSA. Mad struggle for them now.TheAnswer:
[quote=\"VALyap\"]many parents think that DSA is a good option to IP schs...It may not be a good idea. To be able to handle the academic pressure from IP schs, the child needs to have at least T-score in top 10% range... or rather P4 to P5, consistently abv 85%. :rahrah:
Like some here had shared, there are kids (below 85% overall ) that got into IP in East or Bkt Timah or ACSI thru DSA, they are really facing the pressure. In the end, instead of helping them, they are struggling to catch up and ultimately their self-esteem lowered! Hence, it's a dis-service to the kids and some poor kids really demoralised. :imdrowning:
Many had pointed out IP is not for everyone and definitely the sch work load is not a walk-in-the park! :?: The teacher really teach less and expecting kids to learn more! The subject can be ahead of the curve sec 3/4 topics taught in sec 1/2. It is more of self-learning and reading ahead............. :imcool: -
TheAnswer:
Interesting.
My cousin's issue I will share next time. I do not see why one's failure should deter others. If he decides to go for ip, he must be responsible for his decision. But if he choose the O level program, it's acceptable to me too. Kids must be responsible for their choices.
So if your son is doing very well academically, and yet chooses to join his good friends who may choose 'O' level program, you would stand by the decision from a P6 boy? Or for whatever reason, he prefers a 2nd tier to a top tier school, you would agree as well? -
I support meritocracy and I believe kids should enter their desired schools with merits. However, merits do not only refer to PSLE T score. Kids who enter via DSA through non academic paths are just as deserving to me because they have shown to the school their strength in sports or PA in addition to a fairly strong academic track record.
In addition, many students take part actively in CCA in Sec school, not only DSA students. We talk a lot about character development (perseverance, resilience, teamwork, discipline, commitment etc.), to me, CCA participation is one of the best ways to develop these characters. It also gives the students a great sense of achievement and many build strong frienships which last a lifetime. It is no surprise that many students choose to join CCAs which require a lot of time and commitment. Many non-DSA students are doing it because they don’t see it as a transaction, or they are merely ‘playing for the school’.
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals. -
wonderm:
:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:I support meritocracy and I believe kids should enter their desired schools with merits. However, merits do not only refer to PSLE T score. Kids who enter via DSA through non academic paths are just as deserving to me because they have shown to the school their strength in sports or PA in addition to a fairly strong academic track record.
In addition, many students take part actively in CCA in Sec school, not only DSA students. We talk a lot about character development (perseverance, resilience, teamwork, discipline, commitment etc.), to me, CCA participation is one of the best ways to develop these characters. It also gives the students a great sense of achievement and many build strong frienships which last a lifetime. It is no surprise that many students choose to join CCAs which require a lot of time and commitment. Many non-DSA students are doing it because they don't see it as a transaction, or they are merely 'playing for the school'.
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals.
:love: dunno how many good post I must put to show how much I like this post.
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wonderm:
I support meritocracy and I believe kids should enter their desired schools with merits. However, merits do not only refer to PSLE T score. Kids who enter via DSA through non academic paths are just as deserving to me because they have shown to the school their strength in sports or PA in addition to a fairly strong academic track record.
In addition, many students take part actively in CCA in Sec school, not only DSA students. We talk a lot about character development (perseverance, resilience, teamwork, discipline, commitment etc.), to me, CCA participation is one of the best ways to develop these characters. It also gives the students a great sense of achievement and many build strong frienships which last a lifetime. It is no surprise that many students choose to join CCAs which require a lot of time and commitment. Many non-DSA students are doing it because they don't see it as a transaction, or they are merely 'playing for the school'.
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals.
Well said :goodpost: :salute: -
wonderm:
:goodpost:I support meritocracy and I believe kids should enter their desired schools with merits. However, merits do not only refer to PSLE T score. Kids who enter via DSA through non academic paths are just as deserving to me because they have shown to the school their strength in sports or PA in addition to a fairly strong academic track record.
In addition, many students take part actively in CCA in Sec school, not only DSA students. We talk a lot about character development (perseverance, resilience, teamwork, discipline, commitment etc.), to me, CCA participation is one of the best ways to develop these characters. It also gives the students a great sense of achievement and many build strong frienships which last a lifetime. It is no surprise that many students choose to join CCAs which require a lot of time and commitment. Many non-DSA students are doing it because they don't see it as a transaction, or they are merely 'playing for the school'.
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals. -
BeContented:
:goodpost: :salute: :hi5: :hugs: :grphug:
:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:wonderm:
I support meritocracy and I believe kids should enter their desired schools with merits. However, merits do not only refer to PSLE T score. Kids who enter via DSA through non academic paths are just as deserving to me because they have shown to the school their strength in sports or PA in addition to a fairly strong academic track record.
In addition, many students take part actively in CCA in Sec school, not only DSA students. We talk a lot about character development (perseverance, resilience, teamwork, discipline, commitment etc.), to me, CCA participation is one of the best ways to develop these characters. It also gives the students a great sense of achievement and many build strong frienships which last a lifetime. It is no surprise that many students choose to join CCAs which require a lot of time and commitment. Many non-DSA students are doing it because they don't see it as a transaction, or they are merely 'playing for the school'.
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals.
:love: dunno how many good post I must put to show how much I like this post. -
TheAnswer:
There are reasons why some choose to dsa, it could be a AEP or MEP. I think DSA has a boarder context then just the top schools.I refer to DSA via backdoors as going in using sports or any other talent. Not those who went in through results.
I believe in challenging my boy. He has to prove himself capable to get into the school of his choice. If you DSA into the school and end up playing for the school more than studying. Tough to cope.
The reason why there is a dsa choice for sports or talents is to provide kids who are investing a lot of time into their pursuits an opportunity to enter the institution of their choice. Once again its the schools themselves who screwed it up by turning it into a rat race.
You might be surprise that there are schools who placed a premium on cca and there are basically no difference in the time spent on cca for dsa or non-dsa students.....like acsi, chs.... -
wonderm:
Great post and I fully agree on this. Though it's true that parents need to have the right mindset, I observed that parents also do succumb to peer pressure too (pressure from other parents) that exam marks are important.
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals.
I have known parents who really want to and they believe that their kids should enjoy the entire learning process but at the same time, when it comes to exams, their worried face also tells alot including if they should get their kids to score well too.
I think the entire education system has its part to play and that include how teachers educate the parents, and how educators (including tutors) educate the parents...While MOE may be able to get us nearer to our goals (whatever that is), by the time that it gets passed down and get implemented by the teachers, it will be too late...so starting from parents may be a better alternative, i feel. -
JohnYeo:
I would want my children to enjoy studies and their school lives but sometimes it is really so stressful. Many things still weigh on their exam results. Like admission to JC/Uni or even reputable overseas Uni.
Great post and I fully agree on this. Though it's true that parents need to have the right mindset, I observed that parents also do succumb to peer pressure too (pressure from other parents) that exam marks are important.wonderm:
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals.
I have known parents who really want to and they believe that their kids should enjoy the entire learning process but at the same time, when it comes to exams, their worried face also tells alot including if they should get their kids to score well too.
I think the entire education system has its part to play and that include how teachers educate the parents, and how educators (including tutors) educate the parents...While MOE may be able to get us nearer to our goals (whatever that is), by the time that it gets passed down and get implemented by the teachers, it will be too late...so starting from parents may be a better alternative, i feel.
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