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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • wwjd.040411idkwhatiamdoingW Offline
      wwjd.040411idkwhatiamdoing
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      zac's mum\" post_id=\"2114500\" time=\"1690181082\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2114500 time=1690181082 user_id=53606]
      In previous years there was some discussion about S1 posting using the new AL scoring system. Somebody postulated that MOE has all the students’ raw scores, and that all of them are ranked from the number 1 in SG all the way down. That’s how the computer can start to process from the top student’s first choice, allocate the school, then keep going down the list, until the school is filled, and so on. A lower ranked student wont get his choices processed before a higher ranked student.

      So I wonder if for DSA exercise of preferences, there is a similar consolidated master list (from the top school’s list all the way down), otherwise where to start from?

      The other possibility is the computer runs separate schools’ DSA lists independently. In which case there will be some forsaken COs that will not flow to any waitlisters?[/quote]
      What I was told by other experienced parents (not sure how true because MOE doesn't go into detail?):
      1. School has a list of CO and WL, in order of preference. Allocated to CO first.
      2. System will allocate to WL people in order of preference according to what the school gave.
      3. This WL preference list is spread across all domains of 1 school.
      4. System then checks:
      (a) School A has 100 DSA vacancies.
      (b) 350 COs across all domains put as 1st choice.
      (c) On hold till all schools 1st choice CO done.
      (d) Go on to WL. School A still has 50 vacancies, so top 50 on WL who put as 1st choice will be taken in.
      (e) Let's say only 30 kids with WL put school A as 1st choice. Then system will move to kids who didn't get any offers yet after looking at their 1st choice, and move on to look at their 2nd choices.
      (f) 2nd choice with CO kids (ranked also) will get in first. If say only 10 such kids at school A at this point enrol, then there's another 10 vacancies and it will repeat to those who put WL for School A as 2nd choice but have not gotten any other schools in their first choice. Then repeat again for 3rd choice.

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        ovenlove
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        Icekachang\" post_id=\"2114382\" time=\"1690027370\" user_id=\"54959:

        Consolidated List: Feel free to add on
        **UPDATED** (as of 22 July)
        All the best!!

        ACSI
        https://www.acsindep.moe.edu.sg/admissions/dsa-year-1/
        Sports: Email received, 20 June (clashes with NUSH trial); trials in Aug
        Robotics Email received, 20 June (clashes with NUSH trial)
        Science: Email rec’d 28 June

        Anglican High School
        Choir : Email rec’d, 20th June
        Chinese : 21 June email

        Bukit Panjang Government High
        Netball : rec’d 22 June
        Volleyball : 19 June
        Basketball: Trial 30 June

        Catholic High
        Basketball: Email received on the week of 12 June
        Performing Arts : email rec’d on 16 June
        Math : email rec’d on 23 June
        Humanities IP : email rec’d 23 June
        Track & Field : 19 June
        Leadership: email received on 30 June
        Science: email received on 30 June
        MEP: email recd on 14 Jul for interview

        Cedar Girls
        Sports : received email on 19 June

        Crescent Girls’
        Performing arts: email recd on 13 Jul

        Chung Cheng High Main
        Badminton: Email received on 28 Jun; trials on 19 Jul

        CHIJ Katong
        Track & Field : 20 June

        CHIJ TPY
        Track & Field : email rec’d on 20 June
        Netball, Bowling : email rec’d
        Concert band: audition on 10 Jul

        Chung Cheng High
        Sports: email rec’d 28 Jun

        Dunman High DHS
        Bilingualism: email rec’d 28 June
        Band: email received on 10 Jul for audition
        Chinese Orchestra: email recd on 13 Jul
        Chinese Dance: email recd on 14 Jul

        Fairfield Methodist Secondary
        Sports : Email received on 20th June

        Hwa Chong HCI
        Science & Humanities: Email received on 15 June to submit supporting documents
        Science: email received on 10 Jul for interview
        Math: email received on 10 Jul for interview
        Infocomm : portfolio submission due 21 June; email received on 10 Jul for interview
        Table tennis : trials 28 June
        Track and Field : trials 01 July; email recd on 13 Jul for interview on 22 Jul
        Leadership: email received on 10 Jul for interview
        Bilingualism: email received on 10 Jul for interview

        Methodist Girls' School MGS
        Netball: Interview on 20 July
        MEP : Email received on 23 Jun 5PM
        EL DSA: received 30 June; Interview: 15 July.
        STEM selection test on 15 Jul 2023.

        Nan Hua High
        Choir: Email rec’d 27 June
        Badminton: email rec’d 26 June
        Chinese Orchestra(Erhu) rec's 30 June

        Nan Chiau
        Dance: email received on 5 July

        Nanyang Girls' High NYGH
        Sports: Email received 26 June
        Bilingualism: email rec’d
        Chinese Dance: Audition July 4th
        Leadership: personal statement submission
        email rec’d 2nd July
        Chinese orchestra: email rec’d 2nd July
        Chinese Calligraphy and Service Leadership: email sent out on 2 July (Sun) at 715pm and 8pm respectively
        Science: Email rec’d 3rd July
        Math: email rec’d 3rd July
        String Ensemble: email received on 3rd July

        National Junior College https://www.nationaljc.moe.edu.sg/admissions/ip-dsa/
        AEP: Email received on 30 Jun
        Sports: email rec’d 23 jun
        STEM: Email rec 16 Jun
        Band: email rec’d 28 jun
        Music: Selection Test date 5 Jul; String ensemble audition 18 Jul
        AEP selection test date 14 Jul
        Choir: email rec’d 23 jun

        Ngee Ann Secondary
        Basketball : email rec’d 22 June 23

        NUS High
        Science & Maths : Email sent on 19 June for selection test
        Selection camp email recd on 11 Jul

        Raffles Institution
        AEP/Visual Arts : rec’d on 23 June
        Sports: Email received on 16 June
        Leadership: Email received 16 Jun for personal statement submission
        Maths & Science : Email rec’d 23 June
        Basketball : trials 23, 24 June
        Track and Field:
        trials 23, 24 June; email for 2nd trial recd on 30 Jun and held on 6 Jul
        email recd on 11 Jul for interview
        MEP -1st auditions 30th June
        2nd Auditions and interview 15th July


        Raffles Girls RGS
        Visual Arts: email received on 6 Jul
        Netball: email received on 6 Jul
        Badminton: email received on 6 Jul and trials on 17 Jul
        Basketball: email received on 7 Jul
        MEP: email received on 6 Jul
        English: email received on 7 Jul
        Science: email received on 7 Jul
        Math: email received on 7 Jul
        Community & Youth Leadership: email received on 6 Jul; interview on 12 Jul, 26 Jul


        River Valley High School
        Sports : email rec’d 22 June
        Robotics: email rec’d 28 june
        Chinese Dance: email rec’d 30 June
        Science selection trial: email rec’d 30 June
        Concert Band : email received 30 June

        SJI https://www.sji.edu.sg/admission/dsa2024y1/
        Sports: 26 Jun
        Innovation: email rec’d 16 June; 05 Jul
        Leadership: email recd on 10 Jul

        SMSS (St Margaret)
        VA: email received 29 June
        Netball: email received 4 July
        String Ensemble: email received 4 July

        CHIJ St Nicholas Girls' SNGS
        Sports: email received 26 June
        Leadership: email sent on 15 Jul

        SST
        Email 9 June
        Exam finished mid June.

        ST PATRICK
        Leadership: email received 26 June
        Sports: 26 June

        Singapore Chinese Girls' School SCGS
        Robotics - email received 26 June
        Sports - email received 26 June
        Leadership - email received 28 June
        English - email received on 3 July; written test on 7 July
        Science - email received on 3 July; written test on 12 July
        Math - email received on 3 July; written test on 14 July
        Dance - email received on 3 July to submit video recording; email for audition recd 10 Jul
        Choir - email received on 4 July
        Language – waiting for updates on interview after written tests

        TJC
        STEM & EL: email rec 23 Jun
        Maths,Chinese, English, Science - Wrtten Test on 1st July
        English: email recd on 13 Jul for interview on 20 Jul
        MEP : email rec 20 Jun
        Taekwondo : email rec 21 June,
        sport trial 12 Jul
        Leadership: email received 28 June

        Tanjong Katong Girls’ TKGS
        Netball: email received on 6 Jun

        Xinmin
        Air Rifle : 21 June

        Victoria School VS
        Floorball: email received on 5 Jul
        Volleyball: email received on 10 Jul for trial/interview
        Track & Field: email received on 11 Jul

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          :thankyou for the info. So if given a CO for school A and subsequently placed school A CO as second choice, there may be a chance that the kid may not get school A in the event that 1st choice is not successful too?

          wwjd.idkwhatiamdoing\" post_id=\"2114508\" time=\"1690189037\" user_id=\"201007:
          What I was told by other experienced parents (not sure how true because MOE doesn't go into detail?):
          1. School has a list of CO and WL, in order of preference. Allocated to CO first.
          2. System will allocate to WL people in order of preference according to what the school gave.
          3. This WL preference list is spread across all domains of 1 school.
          4. System then checks:
          (a) School A has 100 DSA vacancies.
          (b) 350 COs across all domains put as 1st choice.
          (c) On hold till all schools 1st choice CO done.
          (d) Go on to WL. School A still has 50 vacancies, so top 50 on WL who put as 1st choice will be taken in.
          (e) Let's say only 30 kids with WL put school A as 1st choice. Then system will move to kids who didn't get any offers yet after looking at their 1st choice, and move on to look at their 2nd choices.
          (f) 2nd choice with CO kids (ranked also) will get in first. If say only 10 such kids at school A at this point enrol, then there's another 10 vacancies and it will repeat to those who put WL for School A as 2nd choice but have not gotten any other schools in their first choice. Then repeat again for 3rd choice.

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          • phtthpP Offline
            phtthp
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            alwwp\" post_id=\"2114512\" time=\"1690190594\" user_id=\"118057:

            :thankyou for the info.

            So if given a CO for school A and subsequently placed school A CO as second choice, there may be a chance that the kid may not get school A in the event that 1st choice is not successful too?
            That will depend on whether your 1st choice gets converted into the CO, or not.

            Example
            =======

            Suppose the pupil submit back these 2 choices back to MOE, as shown below.

            Suppose this pupil actually accepted both the Wait list plus CO, from 2 different schools :-

            1) MGS (Wait list), for English domain

            2) SCGS (CO), Badminton Sports

            =======================
            Scenario A -

            Suppose
            her 1st choice : MGS Waitlist got successfully converted into CO. Congratrulations ! So, this pupil gets admitted into Sec 1 (MGS Girls' Secondary school).

            Computer stop processing for this pupil, then move onto the next DSA candidate, to process next.

            OR

            Scenario B -
            Suppose her 1st choice MGS Waitlist failed to get converted.
            Never mind.

            Computer moves down to her 2nd choice DSA decision made, to check. Oh ! She has accepted SCGS CO, for badminton, as her 2nd choice. OK, computer slot this pupil into SCGS, since is a CO. So, pupil gets admitted into Sec 1 (SCGS).

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            • wwjd.040411idkwhatiamdoingW Offline
              wwjd.040411idkwhatiamdoing
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              phtthp\" post_id=\"2114515\" time=\"1690191873\" user_id=\"35251:

              That will depend on whether your 1st choice gets converted into the CO, or not.

              Example
              =======

              Suppose the pupil submit back these 2 choices back to MOE, as shown below.

              Suppose this pupil actually accepted both the Wait list plus CO, from 2 different schools :-

              1) MGS (Wait list), for English domain

              2) SCGS (CO), Badminton Sports

              =======================
              Scenario A -

              Suppose
              her 1st choice : MGS Waitlist got successfully converted into CO. Congratrulations ! So, this pupil gets admitted into Sec 1 (MGS Girls' Secondary school).

              Computer stop processing for this pupil, then move onto the next DSA candidate, to process next.

              OR

              Scenario B -
              Suppose her 1st choice MGS Waitlist failed to get converted.
              Never mind.

              Computer moves down to her 2nd choice DSA decision made, to check. Oh ! She has accepted SCGS CO, for badminton, as her 2nd choice. OK, computer slot this pupil into SCGS, since is a CO. So, pupil gets admitted into Sec 1 (SCGS).
              This is what I understand too. But the other parents were telling me something slightly different, so very confusing.

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                alwwp
                last edited by

                :thankyou:


                If first choice WL didnt get convert to CO, then move down to 2nd choice CO, the computer will based on remaining slots after considering all the WLs under 1st choice or whether it is a confirmed Slot for the pupil since the school offered CO to the pupil?

                phtthp\" post_id=\"2114515\" time=\"1690191873\" user_id=\"35251:

                That will depend on whether your 1st choice gets converted into the CO, or not.

                Example
                =======

                Suppose the pupil submit back these 2 choices back to MOE, as shown below.

                Suppose this pupil actually accepted both the Wait list plus CO, from 2 different schools :-

                1) MGS (Wait list), for English domain

                2) SCGS (CO), Badminton Sports

                =======================
                Scenario A -

                Suppose
                her 1st choice : MGS Waitlist got successfully converted into CO. Congratrulations ! So, this pupil gets admitted into Sec 1 (MGS Girls' Secondary school).

                Computer stop processing for this pupil, then move onto the next DSA candidate, to process next.

                OR

                Scenario B -
                Suppose her 1st choice MGS Waitlist failed to get converted.
                Never mind.

                Computer moves down to her 2nd choice DSA decision made, to check. Oh ! She has accepted SCGS CO, for badminton, as her 2nd choice. OK, computer slot this pupil into SCGS, since is a CO. So, pupil gets admitted into Sec 1 (SCGS).

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                • phtthpP Offline
                  phtthp
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                  alwwp\" post_id=\"2114519\" time=\"1690192779\" user_id=\"118057:

                  :thankyou:

                  If first choice WL didnt get convert to CO, then move down to 2nd choice CO,

                  the computer will based on remaining slots after considering all the WLs under 1st choice or whether it is a confirmed Slot for the pupil since the school offered CO to the pupil?
                  Suppose her 1st choice (MGS Waitlist) English domain failed to get converted. So, computer move down, to check what is her 2nd choice DSA decision made submitted.


                  If suppose her 2nd choice is a CO,
                  then she will definitely get in,
                  Because

                  she is given a .... CO.

                  However,
                  if her 2nd choice DSA decision made is a Wait list (for SCGS Badminton),
                  Instead of a CO, ah ...

                  then,

                  whether her Wait list gets converted into CO or not, will depend on circumstances :-

                  1) Total number of students, who have given up the COs, inside school SCGS. Only when got students give up their CO, then that is where got chance for the Wait-list to be converted into CO. Otherwise, zero chance.

                  +

                  2) her own ranking position, within the Wait-list (SCGS) itself.

                  If this pupil is ranked far below, somewhere close to bottom of the Waitlist,
                  then

                  it is possible that her Waitlist will not get converted in the end.

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                    alwwp
                    last edited by

                    :thankyou:

                    phtthp\" post_id=\"2114520\" time=\"1690193475\" user_id=\"35251:
                    If her 2nd choice is a CO,
                    then she will definitely get in,
                    Because

                    she is given a .... CO.

                    However,
                    if her 2nd choice DSA decision made is a Wait list (for SCGS Badminton),
                    Instead of a CO,

                    then,

                    whether her Wait list gets converted into CO or not, will depend on circumstances :-

                    1) Total number of students, who have given up the COs, inside school SCGS

                    +

                    2) her own ranking position, within the Wait-list (SCGS) itself.

                    If this pupil is ranked far below, somewhere close to bottom of the Waitlist,
                    then

                    it is possible that her Waitlist will not get converted in the end.

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                    • Tick16T Offline
                      Tick16
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                      alwwp\" post_id=\"2114512\" time=\"1690190594\" user_id=\"118057:

                      :thankyou for the info. So if given a CO for school A and subsequently placed school A CO as second choice, there may be a chance that the kid may not get school A in the event that 1st choice is not successful too?

                      A CO is a CO. Schools cannot back out unless you reject them during the preference ranking.
                      So in my case if the WL did not convert, my DD will be moved to school #2 which she already got CO.

                      This was also clearly explained to me by School #1 to put them as WL and even if not successful, DD will be moved to school #2 with CO.

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                        alwwp
                        last edited by

                        :thankyou:

                        Tick16\" post_id=\"2114525\" time=\"1690194691\" user_id=\"146478:
                        A CO is a CO. Schools cannot back out unless you reject them during the preference ranking.
                        So in my case if the WL did not convert, my DD will be moved to school #2 which she already got CO.

                        This was also clearly explained to me by School #1 to put them as WL and even if not successful, DD will be moved to school #2 with CO.

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