DSA 2023

[Jaslim24]

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Is the 50% conversion to co applicable to IP schools since they are popular and rarely people will reject the offer.. any past experience to share?

Anyone dc has been converted in sports domain frm wl to co in ip schools?

CoolSotongMom\" post_id=\"2119324\" time=\"1695253868\" user_id=\"196684:

I think it depends on a number of things,

1) Which school
2) Which steam (IP/O)
3) Child's ranking in the wait list.
4) High much the school emphasis on that particular sport.

According to MOE, about 50% of WL gets converted. According to my girl's WL school in charge, quite high percentage as the school focus on the sport she is in.

[SG_KP1]

In the past, some people have guessed/observed/said that the sports WLs have a better chance of conversion (all else the same). I cannot confirm firsthand, but I think it is probably true.


First, the domain intake for any sport / CCA is likely a small number of students (at least relative to some of the academic domains). As a result, the coaches may have some idea of who will accept / who will go elsewhere. Second, if you think some of your COs will not accept, you may have a strong desire to field the team with your next choice of players. Additionally, the number of WLs for sports may be managed quite closely, both in relation to the aforementioned points and the total team size.

For example, if your team has X players in the match/on the court/field/pitch/whatever, taking in 0.1X is going to pose challenges for the team. Similarly, taking in 2X players is not ideal either. In contrast, whether your academic domain fluctuates +/- 5 (for the larger domains) probably isn’t a big deal. Many capable kids will enter via S1 as well.

As for the IP schools, some are rumored/known to have a high chance of conversion. As mentioned before, there will be kids with three COs and they can only accept one, so this will free up some spaces. Next, the fact that very few COs are given up does not mean the chance of WL conversion is low. What matters is how many WLs the school issued. For example, if a school typically has 10-15 COs given up year after year and they issue 12 WLs, the odds are pretty good.

Good luck to all and best of luck for the written PSLE papers.

[Jaslim24]

Thanks for the insightful sharing.. any idea how many wl do schools normally issue ie 50% of their co numbers or lesser?


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quote=SG_KP1 post_id=2119326 time=1695256730 user_id=188234]
In the past, some people have guessed/observed/said that the sports WLs have a better chance of conversion (all else the same). I cannot confirm firsthand, but I think it is probably true.

First, the domain intake for any sport / CCA is likely a small number of students (at least relative to some of the academic domains). As a result, the coaches may have some idea of who will accept / who will go elsewhere. Second, if you think some of your COs will not accept, you may have a strong desire to field the team with your next choice of players. Additionally, the number of WLs for sports may be managed quite closely, both in relation to the aforementioned points and the total team size.

For example, if your team has X players in the match/on the court/field/pitch/whatever, taking in 0.1X is going to pose challenges for the team. Similarly, taking in 2X players is not ideal either. In contrast, whether your academic domain fluctuates +/- 5 (for the larger domains) probably isn't a big deal. Many capable kids will enter via S1 as well.

As for the IP schools, some are rumored/known to have a high chance of conversion. As mentioned before, there will be kids with three COs and they can only accept one, so this will free up some spaces. Next, the fact that very few COs are given up does not mean the chance of WL conversion is low. What matters is how many WLs the school issued. For example, if a school typically has 10-15 COs given up year after year and they issue 12 WLs, the odds are pretty good.

Good luck to all and best of luck for the written PSLE papers.
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[SG_KP1]

Jaslim24\" post_id=\"2119328\" time=\"1695257533\" user_id=\"156773:

Thanks for the insightful sharing.. any idea how many wl do schools normally issue ie 50% of their co numbers or lesser?

:thankyou:

Short answer is I don't know.

If you are asking about the school as a whole, per above I don't think the relevant figure is the % of CO number. Instead, it is relative to the number of COs expected to be given up (which will likely vary across the schools). If you are asking about a specific domain, I think it depends more on whether they think the COs are coming or not, and other factors that may fluctuate year to year (needs of the team, last year's intake, player quality, etc).

Anyways, no one knows for sure and everything I've said could be wrong or made up. Practically speaking, if you are first on the WL the chance is more or less 100%. But last on the WL and it could be well less than any average odds we can come up with. Most of the time, I don't think the schools will give out where a student sits (although apparently some did last year).

So we are back to either it happens or it doesn't happen. 50%?

[CoolSotongMom]

Jaslim24\" post_id=\"2119328\" time=\"1695257533\" user_id=\"156773:

Thanks for the insightful sharing.. any idea how many wl do schools normally issue ie 50% of their co numbers or lesser?

Its anyone's guess and normally school do not want to commit in giving out a number. This question had been asked before and the teacher in charge said \"Chances are high.\" As there's too many variants, its really difficult to know.

At this point, just take it positively as there's still a possibility instead of a direct rejection.
But at the same time, prepare for a back up/alternative.

All the best to the WL candidates (including my girl)! May we hear some good news in Nov!

[Jaslim24]

:thankyou:

Good luck to all psle kids 😀

CoolSotongMom\" post_id=\"2119331\" time=\"1695259657\" user_id=\"196684:

Its anyone's guess and normally school do not want to commit in giving out a number. This question had been asked before and the teacher in charge said \"Chances are high.\" As there's too many variants, its really difficult to know.

At this point, just take it positively as there's still a possibility instead of a direct rejection.
But at the same time, prepare for a back up/alternative.

All the best to the WL candidates (including my girl)! May we hear some good news in Nov!

[tintinazure]

On the point about sports WL having higher chance of conversion, I thought it was previously shared that the chance of conversion depends on the rank of WL at which the kids are. So when there’s a CO given up, the child who ranks highest will be converted first regardless of the domain. Please enlighten. Is it the WL ranking or the domain ranking?

[jyothiprasad]

Very useful reply. Thank you.


Can submitting additional achievements in the talent area since the application was made help in the conversion from WL to CO? Or can the WL order the school has set not be changed now?

Any idea if we can approach the school to ask where we are in the WL? The school has called all the CO/WL for a session after PSLE. So trying to gather as much data before that as possible.

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2119326\" time=\"1695256730\" user_id=\"188234:

In the past, some people have guessed/observed/said that the sports WLs have a better chance of conversion (all else the same). I cannot confirm firsthand, but I think it is probably true.

First, the domain intake for any sport / CCA is likely a small number of students (at least relative to some of the academic domains). As a result, the coaches may have some idea of who will accept / who will go elsewhere. Second, if you think some of your COs will not accept, you may have a strong desire to field the team with your next choice of players. Additionally, the number of WLs for sports may be managed quite closely, both in relation to the aforementioned points and the total team size.

For example, if your team has X players in the match/on the court/field/pitch/whatever, taking in 0.1X is going to pose challenges for the team. Similarly, taking in 2X players is not ideal either. In contrast, whether your academic domain fluctuates +/- 5 (for the larger domains) probably isn't a big deal. Many capable kids will enter via S1 as well.

As for the IP schools, some are rumored/known to have a high chance of conversion. As mentioned before, there will be kids with three COs and they can only accept one, so this will free up some spaces. Next, the fact that very few COs are given up does not mean the chance of WL conversion is low. What matters is how many WLs the school issued. For example, if a school typically has 10-15 COs given up year after year and they issue 12 WLs, the odds are pretty good.

Good luck to all and best of luck for the written PSLE papers.

[SG_KP1]

jyothiprasad\" post_id=\"2119344\" time=\"1695279943\" user_id=\"202912:

Very useful reply. Thank you.

Can submitting additional achievements in the talent area since the application was made help in the conversion from WL to CO? Or can the WL order the school has set not be changed now?

Any idea if we can approach the school to ask where we are in the WL? The school has called all the CO/WL for a session after PSLE. So trying to gather as much data before that as possible.

You can certainly approach the school to ask. Whether they are willing to say anything is another issue .

I don't know on your first question. Most likely (my guess only) the WL order has already been set based on a number of considerations and won't be changed.

Best of luck and regards.

[tintinazure]

Last year, my nephew was given badminton WL (popular school) Did not convert.