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    DSA 2023

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • Marina CollectionM Offline
      Marina Collection
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      maybal\" post_id=\"2104919\" time=\"1681197421\" user_id=\"201347:

      hello, I’m a student(non-GEP) and I’m thinking of participating in EL DSA to RGS this year. I have won a couple of awards(wits and words best speaker, wits and words certificate of participation) and I have gotten AL1s or AL2s (not often) for EL, and most recently, single-digit AL for WA1 (6). I think I may also participate in the Queen’s commonwealth essay competition (if I have time). However, I have also participated in sota cw competition and cwp but I never get selected for both Programmes. Also Wits and Words which is a debate competition organized by RGS. Am I able to get a DSA offer to RGS? thanks 🙂
      Hi
      My DD DSA to RGS via English . Just sharing her profile here for you to assess your own chances ……. She got a silver award in queens commonwealth in p5. And AL1 for English consistently . Overall is consistently AL5 . That’s about it .

      She did her psle during the covid in 2021 so I’m not sure how the selection criteria is now - do read thru 2022 thread to see how it was done .

      Once you get past the interview , everyone is on a level playing ground . Hence I always emphasise the performance during the interview itself . I think pre-covidal years , it was a half day workshop with various activities whereby the teacher just sit aside to observe . Then during covid years , it was changed to zoom group interview .

      There’re not many commitments required of these EL DSA girls in RGS . Maybe just submit an essay for competition once a year .

      FYI the school’s DSA selection criteria is based up to jun . I would think that the release of results of 2023 queens commonwealth competition wouldn’t be in time .

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        Marina Collection\" post_id=\"2106051\" time=\"1682058724\" user_id=\"91099:[quote=\"Marina Collection\" post_id=2106051 time=1682058724 user_id=91099]
        Hi
        My DD DSA to RGS via English . Just sharing her profile here for you to assess your own chances ……. She got a silver award in queens commonwealth in p5. And AL1 for English consistently . Overall is consistently AL5 . That’s about it .

        She did her psle during the covid in 2021 so I’m not sure how the selection criteria is now - do read thru 2022 thread to see how it was done .

        I believe once you get past the interview , everyone is on a level playing ground . Hence I always emphasise the performance during the interview itself . I think pre-covidal years , it was a half day workshop with various activities whereby the teacher just sit aside to observe . Then during covid years , it was changed to zoom group interview .

        There’re not many commitments required of these EL DSA girls in RGS . Maybe just submit an essay for competition once a year .

        FYI the school’s DSA selection criteria is based up to jun . I would think that the release of results of 2023 queens commonwealth competition wouldn’t be in time .[/quote]

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          YL96615046
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          Anyone can share experience for sports DSA? and how to prepare portfolio and what kind of questions will be asked when interview. Tks!

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            Would caution against over-training a primary child in a single sport. Individual sports are generally overly competitive these days due to what parents have done. Have already heard many stories of teens who got tired of the sport in sec because they were overly trained since lower primary. And be realistic in the schools to target for, as your child will not just have to cope with the multiple trainings (usually 3-4x a week) and academic demands (esp in top schs).

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              Hello Parents, may I find out more about DSA in Humanities? What kind of achievements are required minimally? Because at primary school level, I have no idea what kind of competitions or events or subjects are considered part of humanities. Hope experienced parents here can enlighten. 🙏🙏🙏

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                Each child can submit up to 3 DSA applications. Would putting in 2 applications in diff talent areas (ie leadership & stem) to 1 specific school lessen the child’s chances as it seems to imply the child is trying too hard to get in?


                thank you for any sharing or advice.

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                  topboy\" post_id=\"2106119\" time=\"1682125726\" user_id=\"162321:

                  Hello Parents,

                  may I find out more about DSA in Humanities?

                  What kind of achievements are required minimally?

                  Because at primary school level, I have no idea what kind of competitions or events or subjects are considered part of humanities. Hope experienced parents here can enlighten. 🙏🙏🙏
                  Is your P6 kid good in writing Poetry or essays ?
                  Ever entered into any recognised English or Chinese writing poetry, composed poem contests / competition, at Primary school level, before?

                  Literature (English / Chinese), fall into \" Humanities \" domain.

                  In Secondary schools, \"Humanities\" subjects include
                  (Literature, History, Geography)

                  But,
                  because
                  History & Geog are not taught in primary schools yet, so they will look at your languages (English / Mother tongue), when apply for Humanities.

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                  • phtthpP Offline
                    phtthp
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                    pinks\" post_id=\"2106150\" time=\"1682136287\" user_id=\"109153:

                    Each child can submit up to 3 DSA applications. Would putting in 2 applications in diff talent areas (ie leadership & stem) to 1 specific school lessen the child’s chances as it seems to imply the child is trying too hard to get in?

                    thank you for any sharing or advice.
                    Yes,
                    You can apply to 2 different talent, within the same Secondary school. But if u get shortlisted for an interview, there will only be ONE interview. Not 2 interview, just because u applied for 2 different domain talent.

                    During interview, these people will be present :-

                    1) either Principal or VP (Academic), whoever is free, available, on that actual interview day itself.

                    2) the Cca teacher in charge, of the \"Leadership\" domain.

                    3) either the Secondary school Science HOD or the one, overall in charge of the \"STEM\" domain.

                    Questions, u need to prepare yourself, beforehand.
                    They may ask u these interview qns :-

                    ==========================

                    4) why choose our Secondary school ? Why not choose other Sec schools, instead ?

                    Example

                    They may name one or 2 famous Secondary school names, just to purposely test u out, see how u respond, on the spot. They may remark, \"Oh ! You know ... this Secondary school X also has a very strong STEM domain. Did u apply to that school for DSA, since u have indicated that you have got strong passion & interests, for STEM ? Why not ? ... \"


                    Following are qns, they may pose, because they are interested and want to know more about you, the candidate ( herself or himself ).

                    5) Can u tell us more, about yourself ?
                    What are some of your strength(s) and weakness ?


                    6) Which is your favorite subject in primary school, so far ? Why ?

                    7) What hobbies, do u have ?


                    😎 If there has been one very challenging incident or event (happening) in your primary school education so far or in life, what is it ?
                    Can u elaborate, more ?
                    How did u overcome this problem ?


                    9) if u attend SAP schools' interview like Dunman High (IP), St Nick ( IP ), River Valley High (IP), Catholic High (IP), Hwa Chong (IP),

                    If the interviewer happen to pose u questions in Chinese, then answer the interviewer politely, in Mandarin.
                    Because they may be testing your Mandarin proficiency level.

                    Finally, after attend the interview, if you are the one that the school still desire, school will offer u only ONE DSA outcome : either a CO or a Wait-list.

                    If a pupil (student) is offered Wait-list,
                    then,

                    depending on the pupil's Ranking within the Wait-list itself, the Wait-list may or may not be converted into a CO, in the end. If, in the unfortunate event the Wait-list not been converted into a CO, then the pupil will still need to rely upon his / her own PSLE results eventually, for admission into a Secondary school, through S1 (MOE) posting .


                    =======================

                    If you happen to get short-listed for \"STEM\",
                    then

                    u will be invited to come down to the Secondary school premises and take some tests (internal assessments), to assess your suitability for \"STEM\". Passing or failing these tests, then determine the next step : whether u get invited to attend interview, or not.

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                    • pinksP Offline
                      pinks
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                      phtthp\" post_id=\"2106154\" time=\"1682137929\" user_id=\"35251:

                      Yes,
                      You can apply to 2 different talent, within the same Secondary school. But if u get shortlisted for an interview, there will only be ONE interview. Not 2 interview, just because u applied for 2 different domain talent.

                      During interview, these people will be present :-

                      1) either Principal or VP (Academic), whoever is free, available, on that actual interview day itself.

                      2) the Cca teacher in charge, of the \"Leadership\" domain.

                      3) either the Secondary school Science HOD or the one, overall in charge of the \"STEM\" domain.

                      Questions, u need to prepare yourself, beforehand.
                      They may ask u these interview qns :-

                      ==========================

                      4) why choose our Secondary school ? Why not choose other Sec schools, instead ?

                      Example

                      They may name one or 2 famous Secondary school names, just to purposely test u out, see how u respond, on the spot. They may remark, \"Oh ! You know ... this Secondary school X also has a very strong STEM domain. Did u apply to that school for DSA, since u have indicated that you have got strong passion & interests, for STEM ? Why not ? ... \"


                      Following are qns, they may pose, because they are interested and want to know more about you, the candidate ( herself or himself ).

                      5) Can u tell us more, about yourself ?
                      What are some of your strength(s) and weakness ?


                      6) Which is your favorite subject in primary school, so far ? Why ?

                      7) What hobbies, do u have ?


                      😎 If there has been one very challenging incident or event (happening) in your primary school education so far or in life, what is it ?
                      Can u elaborate, more ?
                      How did u overcome this problem ?


                      9) if u attend SAP schools' interview like Dunman High (IP), St Nick ( IP ), River Valley High (IP), Catholic High (IP), Hwa Chong (IP),

                      If the interviewer happen to pose u questions in Chinese, then answer the interviewer politely, in Mandarin.
                      Because they may be testing your Mandarin proficiency level.

                      Finally, after attend the interview, if you are the one that the school still desire, school will offer u only ONE DSA outcome : either a CO or a Wait-list.

                      If a pupil (student) is offered Wait-list,
                      then,

                      depending on the pupil's Ranking within the Wait-list itself, the Wait-list may or may not be converted into a CO, in the end. If, in the unfortunate event the Wait-list not been converted into a CO, then the pupil will still need to rely upon his / her own PSLE results eventually, for admission into a Secondary school, through S1 (MOE) posting .


                      =======================

                      If you happen to get short-listed for \"STEM\",
                      then

                      u will be invited to come down to the Secondary school premises and take some tests (internal assessments), to assess your suitability for \"STEM\". Passing or failing these tests, then determine the next step : whether u get invited to attend interview, or not.

                      thank you! that’s really insightful.
                      I’m concerned that placing 2 eggs in one basket will just make the child look too desperate to get into the school and eventually backfire and not even get interview opportunity.

                      not sure if its better to spread out 3 applications across 3 schools instead

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                      • phtthpP Offline
                        phtthp
                        last edited by

                        pinks\" post_id=\"2106237\" time=\"1682208584\" user_id=\"109153:

                        thank you! that’s really insightful.
                        I’m concerned that placing 2 eggs in one basket will just make the child look too desperate to get into the school and eventually backfire and not even get interview opportunity.

                        not sure if its better to spread out 3 applications across 3 schools instead
                        putting 2 talent for the same identical school, can be common, for some girls. But not for all girls, though.

                        Example
                        =======

                        Some P6 girls are only interested in getting into one Secondary school : RGS, nothing else. Apart from RGS, they simply not interested in any other Secondary schools.
                        Why ?

                        Because they are confident that they can do well in PSLE, to enter RGS.
                        Eg.
                        They are confident of achieving
                        above 261 Tscore back then, under the old Tscore system.

                        For them, is RGS or nothing else. They not interested in adding in one more school for DSA, just to fill up the space given for maximum 3 DSA slots,
                        then
                        later towards the end of August when received CO news from the other Secondary school, end up in a dilemma situation :-
                        don't know what to do with this half hearted CO, to accept or turn down this CO ?
                        They don't want to waste time, applying for another DSA school. Is RGS, or nothing. Nothing meaning that,
                        if they failed at DSA (RGS),
                        then so be it.
                        They will still enter RGS, by PSLE route (Main door), through Tscore back then.

                        So, what they did was
                        applied for 2 different domain, inside RGS : Leadership + Mathematics

                        In the end,
                        this girl who is my friend's daughter back then in DSA 2019, from a popular SAP primary school :-

                        she wasn't successful for RGS (Maths), but RGS offered her Leadership CO, instead.
                        Out of the two domain which she applied for, RGS offered her only the one that they deem she is stronger, a better fit in, after evaluation & attending interview. She accepted the CO. Today, this girl is in IP (RGS), year 4 (2023).

                        =======================

                        To answer your question, u should ask your child,
                        because
                        your kid is the one, who is able to answer your qn -

                        How keen,
                        is your child, interested to enter whichever Secondary school she (he) is applying DSA for ?

                        1)
                        if your child is very keen, like in the above RGS illustration,
                        then
                        apply for 2 different domain, inside the same Secondary school.

                        OR

                        2)
                        if your child is only half hearted in that DSA school,
                        then
                        just apply for one domain, in each of the maximum 3 allocated DSA slots. Then see in the end, which Secondary school offer your child CO or Wait-list.

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