CNA Article - The Big Read: Fuelled partly by youths' anxiety, the internship rat race has unintended effects
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2135264\" time=\"1718806875\" user_id=\"17023:
My kids also reasoned with me and told me all their lives they had worked hard since pri Sch to sec to jc and then to uni to get to where they are, along the way, definitely sacrifices were made but they are ok with it because at the end of the day, they also want to graduate with a degree that provides the most options for them. But I really didn’t expect this last leg is not an easy experience (ie graduating is easy but to build up the portfolio takes a lot of effort)so have to provide a lot of mental and physical support whenever we could.
Of cos I know don’t need 1st or 2nd upper still can get married and buy a BTO lah.
But it is very real that some jobs only look for 1st and 2nd upper. Even for some ministries, 2nd upper and 2nd lower can mean being recruited into different schemes of service.
There must be a reason why undergrads hope to get at least 2nd upper what. Get, give oneself more options, don’t get, life still goes on. -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2135265\" time=\"1718807072\" user_id=\"2358:
No lah, the cheapest thing in the world is \"talk\". 更动听的 also can say. Heart sure melt if say \"我不在乎你飞的多高,我在乎的你累不累“
Clap clap super supportive partner!!
DH told DS not to believe any single word if anyone says things like this to him. -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2135265\" time=\"1718807072\" user_id=\"2358:
No lah, the cheapest thing in the world is \"talk\". 更动听的 also can say. Heart sure melt if say \"我不在乎你飞的多高,我在乎的你累不累“
Clap clap super supportive partner!!
DH told DS not to believe any single word if anyone says things like this to him. -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2135266\" time=\"1718807734\" user_id=\"2358:
Break down the process into bite-size goals. Once a goal has been achieved, work towards the next aspiration. This makes the next one more achievable.
My kids also reasoned with me and told me all their lives they had worked hard since pri Sch to sec to jc and then to uni to get to where they are, along the way, definitely sacrifices were made but they are ok with it because at the end of the day, they also want to graduate with a degree that provides the most options for them. But I really didn’t expect this last leg is not an easy experience (ie graduating is easy but to build up the portfolio takes a lot of effort)so have to provide a lot of mental and physical support whenever we could.
遇强则强 whatever can hurt / kill you can hurt / kill others too. Treat it as a learning opportunity.
Our kids are still young - plenty of opportunities to pick themselves up. Just ensure not the same mistake twice.
Personally feel that they are luckier than us as they do not need to support the family in the way some of us have to. And they have the benefit of better guidance and experience. 起跑线不一样了 -
Let us not forget about the environment.
We do not live in a vacuum. We influence our environment and are influenced by our environment.
We can harbor our wishes such as earning comfortably without joining the rat race, getting our dream jobs despite our internships or in spite of our 2nd majors or class of honours. HOWEVER, unless we can control our environment, our environment, uncontrolled, shall control us => our wishes remain as wishes only.
Our most potent influence on our environment is our political vote. We get what we vote for.
At the moment, the biggest environmental influence on us, our children, our grandchildren, is CECA. CECA is a political topic in Singapore, supported by many CECA big picture statements, such as, “CECA creates jobs for citizens.”
On May 12, 2024 another CECA big picture statement surfaced which is, we paraphrase, … it is important to attract foreign talent from India IITs and India IIMs because “securing a place in the prestigious IITs and IIMs in India is similar to getting into MIT or Stanford University.”
When murmur is rife that a CS degree from NUS cannot hold a candle to a diploma from Uptron, we might be in deeper trouble than we think because there is a big difference between jobs which citizens don’t want to do and jobs which pay the median wage. (Is it okay for Changi Business Park to be Changalore?)
CECA is an insanity topic in Singapore. If a large population is a good thing then the most populous country in the world would have been an economic power already and so far that human eyes can see it is not so. (Is it okay to accept blindly someone’s insanity just because this someone has chosen to double down on the population growth = GDP grow theory?)
Literacy is a small word with very big implications.
Many know by instinct illiteracy = cannot read and write.
Many, also by instinct, think literacy = can read and write. Here, the instinct of many is incorrect. This is because reading is a skill whereas writing is an ability. A skill is a potential possessed and it can be infinite. An ability, on the other hand, is a potential expressed and is finite. This explains why many may read the same textbooks but not many can do equally well in the same exams.
The meaning of literacy today has become very muddled => it can mean different things to different people. In order to avoid confusion, literacy is now mostly spoken of in a hyphenated way, such as, computer-literacy, statistical-literacy, social-literacy, etc.
The most obvious literacy issues in Singapore, and more so since 2004, is political-literacy and parenting-literacy. Like writing, political-literacy and parenting-literacy are abilities that must be tediously learned and different people have them at different levels. It shall take many pages to elaborate in detail but simply said, political-literacy dictates the type of government and parenting-literacy dictates the type of children.
While many may accept without much argument about their lacking in accounting-literacy or AI-literacy, 2 in 3 old enough to vote shall argument vehemently they are not lacking in political-literacy and almost to the last parent shall argue until their faces go red there is zero chance they are lacking in parenting-literacy.
Those who dispute lacking in political-literacy ask, we read the Straits Times daily and follow diligently all Mediacorp news broadcasts so how can we lack political-literacy?
Those who dispute lacking in parenting-literacy ask, our parents didn’t go to school and they gave birth to a dozen children and all of us have come out well and so how can we not do equally well as parents like our parents especially when we hold degrees from this U and that U?
Ignorance is not bliss. When the COE for a small car can cross S$100k and the price of a small apartment can cross S$1,000k, the lack of political-literacy and parenting-literacy hurt the young much more than the old. The old can fold up and stop struggling, and, perhaps, can still laugh joyously in their daily bmw commutes. It is not so for the young. The young need to earn enough to ensure their young are not too far behind others in their starting lines. (Is it really true car-lite is for sheep only and not for those who mouthed car-lite? Is it really true this small island nation can accommodate 6.9m mouths or 10.0m mouths without the ills of over-crowding? Is it really true it is okay to make median wage and still BTO and have children at current prices, when where the children start in their starting lines depends on where their parents place them?) -
There may be advantages from having a long list of internship experiences on graduates’ resume. It’s like between us 2 adults, the one with 10 years of working experiences stand better chance than another with 2, with everything else being equal. But it’s also important those internship experiences are relevant to what the recruiting company is looking for. A graduate with 2 internships, doing emerging market analysis will be in better position than another that did 10 internships, doing coding, when both graduates apply for same economist job. My relative told me during his undergraduate days they started to figure what sector they want to build a career in, then plan backwards, look for internships during Uni days in those flagship companies that can build their portfolio, to let them stand out after graduation.
If the internships competitions get too much, when it mean have to sacrifice something else, like basic leisure time, then I think it’s better don’t join the frenzy, even if it’s may mean losing out in the beginning. From my own experience, sometimes after getting what we dream of, the feelings that come with it are not as wonderful as we imaging them to be. Some may think, maybe try even harder next time, to earn even more, then will be happy. Sometimes this is not the case at all.
I guess it’s important to be aware what is the real motivation behind wanting to build up impressive list of internships: to get that first job with a billion dollar company? In order to have a successful career? To earn lots of money? To live a comfortable life? Will we really be comfortable at the end of the day? Do we really need that much to live that comfortable life? I think some people don’t see any alternative of a good life other than making lots of money. But I also believe this group in minority. The other minority are on the other end of the spectrum: “bo chap”. The majority are in the middle, moderates
The article title has the word anxiety. I think it accurately describe the motivation behind the frenzy. If youth can invest sometimes in building up their sense of security too, it could help in reducing the stress from needing to do more that are mean for reducing anxieties. -
I guess we all have different views. Just to say that I don’t believe that all people can or should want to rise to the top in the most competitive careers as their first choice, then drop back to a 2nd, 3rd choice if they can’t take it. I give myself as an example, which perhaps will encourage some who think that it’s completely impossible.
I did OK up to university, was never the super-competitive type, and chose to aim for a job that I felt suited me - being a librarian. I was warned - dead-end, poor pay, poor prospects… My husband supported me - we felt that I could aim to do well within the librarian career instead of civil service/legal/finance (which was what my father wanted); we were prepared to live within our means. I was spared the trying hard at a job only to find it too hard, too competitive, something I disliked or failed at. I enjoyed the work itself. I can tell you that we are the only ones of our friends who has never moved out of HDB, and live and travel at a different level from all of them. It really doesn’t bother us, our friends have not shunned us, and our family has been happy and contented all these years. My motivation has always been to do a good job, whether or not it rewards the best in terms of pay or promotions. Of course I expect to paid fairly, but if it’s 50% less than I could be earning in some other job I like less, it doesn’t matter to me, and thankfully, to my husband. He has made similar choices in his own career, and it seems my daughters adopt the same thinking.
This probably shows, again, that my family is very much an outlier, but I put this out here to show that there is no need to follow the herd in every aspect of life. There are consequences of our choices - but we can choose to be satisfied with doing our jobs as best as we can and be happier with less, rather than being stressed by the need to compete and climb. -
Speaking from another person who is also not that competitive with outside people…actually I find it ok de. So long as they not at bottom, if can at average standing with the rest, will happy event to me already. Dd told me at start of holiday…at the end of our conversation on what her friends worked before, after considering some good and bad, she told me that she finds working at bubble tea shop should be quite interesting. I think it is ok for them to experience different thing.
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2135280\" time=\"1718846409\" user_id=\"43981:
Ha...ha.. she can enjoy free bubble tea everyday when working in bubble tea shop. :evil:
Speaking from another person who is also not that competitive with outside people..actually I find it ok de. So long as they not at bottom, if can at average standing with the rest, will happy event to me already. Dd told me at start of holiday..at the end of our conversation on what her friends worked before, after considering some good and bad, she told me that she finds working at bubble tea shop should be quite interesting. I think it is ok for them to experience different thing.
Last time, when DS worked as part time waiter in hotel cafe during holiday, he could enjoy free hotel buffet food -
Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2135281\" time=\"1718848166\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2135281 time=1718848166 user_id=195250]
Hmm.. next time I tell her Starbucks also good
Ha...ha.. she can enjoy free bubble tea everyday when working in bubble tea shop. :evil:
Last time, when DS worked as part time waiter in hotel cafe during holiday, he could enjoy free hotel buffet food[/quote]