Me Time!
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2020748\" time=\"1618845218\" user_id=\"43981:
Yes, I was about to comment that a few of my friends became chefs, housewifes, started their restaurants. And the boys who did D&T, became interior designers, carpenters and some in the construction business.
Dd loves home econzac's mum\" post_id=\"2020724\" time=\"1618828739\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2020724 time=1618828739 user_id=53606]Just wondering...do your kids do any interesting projects in secondary school/JC? I mean those that have some real-life applications...which may lead to them having more interest in exploring that field...Sometimes I feel very sad that our kids don’t get to explore hands-on much in school. Mostly just drilling for exams.
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zac's mum\" post_id=\"2020724\" time=\"1618828739\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2020724 time=1618828739 user_id=53606]
In some pri schools, there’s peer tutoring, see many “little” aspiring teachers-to-be. A child had to tutor someone who was weaker than her, she said she needed to “quit” cos it’s too hard. Glad she knows teaching can be tough albeit meaningful.
Just wondering...do your kids do any interesting projects in secondary school/JC? I mean those that have some real-life applications...which may lead to them having more interest in exploring that field...Sometimes I feel very sad that our kids don’t get to explore hands-on much in school. Mostly just drilling for exams.[/quote]
CCA and leadership positions within the school are also hand-on experiences. Budding singers from the choir, musicians from the Band, artists from Visual arts, not forgetting those who plays a sport. Who knows the school prefects /exco members eventually takes on politics?
Besides, I feel the drilling is part and parcel of building a strong foundation to learn more that is ahead. Math skills, language skills, common sense picked up when learning science.. they add up. I believe some have coding classes as well as drama, gymnastics.
In my child’s secondary school, there’s career guidance programs, interviews/CV and mentorship programs for the year 4s. So far, she had to sew some masks for charity...There’s d&t and FCE as well. Bakers, seamstress, all up to what you can imagine
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2020742\" time=\"1618842165\" user_id=\"43981:
sky minecrafter\" post_id=\"2020735\" time=\"1618838737\" user_id=\"130531:[quote=\"sky minecrafter\" post_id=2020735 time=1618838737 user_id=130531]
Sky, so far the obvious one is she enjoys Chinese but frankly speaking I don't see that her Chi so good leh.. I could see that she starts pushing herself to join more activities. But she did ever say whatever that can earn money..... Like slmkhoo advises, \"choose a course that interests her\" (though not much trust that \"any course at poly should lead to jobs\" ;-p). Recently, my dd was intrigued by the optician's devices, so we were discussing how she might study optometry, but not sure how competitive the entry requirements are; well, 车到山前必有路，船到桥头自然直?
(3) Eventually, it is still important to aim for a degree/ post-graduate studies, & overseas study+ work experiences, which I guess can take 1 step at a timeslmkhoo\" post_id=\"2020731\" time=\"1618833593\" user_id=\"28674:
...There should be a list of cut-off points for each course on individual poly websites.
I wouldn't worry about \"being your own boss\" at the age of 17 - just choose a course that interests her, and that she can get in. Almost by definition, any course at poly should lead to jobs, otherwise the poly won't be offering them! Of course, she may need to be a bit flexible about exactly what jobs a diploma can lead to, but the reality is that every working adult now does several jobs during a working life, so the need to change, reskill and adapt is a given....
So far apart from her school 'career' talk if I m correct, she is not exposed much to other professions..maybe we should start open our eyes big big when looking around. Optometry sounds interesting but my guess is should be very high bar entry lor for my dd.. for your dd great that she starts seeing her interest there! This got chance be own boss haha..
Location wise so long within half a Spore is ok I think.
Oh yeah, I was thinking probably need the overseas study part..my previous plan was no need .. dunno will scare my dh of not.[/quote]Chinese teacher! Tutor! Principal of a SAP school! Endless possibilities.
If DH needs to fund the overseas study, then yea... will definitely scare him! Let your child wait for oversea opportunities after getting out to work bah, no point lugging endless student loan. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2020742\" time=\"1618842165\" user_id=\"43981:
Sky, so far the obvious one is she enjoys Chinese but frankly speaking I don't see that her Chi so good leh.. I could see that she starts pushing herself to join more activities. But she did ever say whatever that can earn money..
This sounds very practical, but I'm not sure it's a sound strategy for the long term. She should still make sure it's something she is interested in or studying and training will be a burden.
So far apart from her school 'career' talk if I m correct, she is not exposed much to other professions..maybe we should start open our eyes big big when looking around. Optometry sounds interesting but my guess is should be very high bar entry lor for my dd.. for your dd great that she starts seeing her interest there! This got chance be own boss haha..
You can get her to read the various poly websites. As far as I recall when I looked, each course usually has a page with some description and will state what sort of careers they can lead to.
Location wise so long within half a Spore is ok I think.
Oh yeah, I was thinking probably need the overseas study part..my previous plan was no need .. dunno will scare my dh of not. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2020741\" time=\"1618841444\" user_id=\"43981:
I think we parents shouldn't try to think so far ahead and try to plan for our kids to that kind of detail. So many things change, work opportunities change - we can't really foresee the future for our kids. As long as they have learned some good work skills and are willing to reskill, learn as they go, etc, they will be OK. My original planned career was Law, but I didn't even do that. Then my next career was the ultimate in being stuck in one place - a library! But because of our moves and my kids' needs, I gave that up. But I found that my skills have led me to 2 other jobs which I do concurrently at the moment - comms and editing. And Covid has made it even more possible that a lot of jobs can be done from home. But of course, the downside is that the pay isn't great - I would be earning a lot more if I'd stayed in my first job, and even more if I'd made use of my law degree.
Maybe I should rephrase that..more to say a flexibility of doing something on our own and can still earn some money..like say eg you learn piano maybe one day you decided to stay at home due to kids, probably can give some piano lessons, earn some pocket money. Maybe in future may not be such big problem too as more work could be done anywhere le. I see dd quite flexible in a way other than some obvious dislikes..recently hear her saying dont like arts subjects and she doesn't have much interest in comp IT stuffs, which I guess suppose to be more in thing for their generation?? -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2020741\" time=\"1618841444\" user_id=\"43981:
Even if you worry until white hair appear,
Maybe I should rephrase that..more to say a flexibility of doing something on our own and can still earn some money..like say eg you learn piano maybe one day you decided to stay at home due to kids, probably can give some piano lessons, earn some pocket money. Maybe in future may not be such big problem too as more work could be done anywhere le. I see dd quite flexible in a way other than some obvious dislikes..recently hear her saying dont like arts subjects and she doesn't have much interest in comp IT stuffs, which I guess suppose to be more in thing for their generation??
no use
because
under the post pandemic era, jobs are totally different than before Y2020 !
So many things have changed ! Jobs are so fluid & dynamic nowadays !
Not just work opportunities have changed, but the way organization worked in the past & functioned, have also changed so much !
We can't plan ahead because we find it hard to, not because we do not want to plan. But because we simply cannot foresee what kind of future lies ahead for our kids.
In the past, we used to plan ahead. Eg. have 3 year plan or a 5 year plan, ahead. Now ? We can't even see what's ahead of us 6 months down the road, not to even mention 1 year down the road. So, how to plan ? When you turn on the TV channel for News, what do the newscaster report? Chaos everywhere ! Many world leaders are a loss, don't know how to tackle crisis
Sure, AI will take away some of our mundane jobs ! Not just the robot moving around hawker centre, removing used, dirty plates from customers & placed them back onto their robot tray, but other kind of jobs going to disappear permanently too.
We probably entering into a cashless society soon, under a 5G high tech computerized environment. Can read this article, have a heart-beat feel of what's going to be the next change soon, akan datang
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/19/central-bank-digital-currency-is-the-next-major-financial-disruptor.html
After covid break out last year, millions of people are out of job now, all over the world. Those used to be highly popular industries which fresh graduates love to flock to : companies froze hiring. Fresh graduates find it hard to look for jobs, depression seep in after a period of time, No interview, no job offer come by. Anxiety, mental health impacted, on the rise. Can read this article -
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-fear-toll-mental-health-hotline-anxiety-singapore-12631710
Going forward, the future is going to be very harsh ! Pandemic is an un-precedented event, in entire world history. It is many times far worse, than the global Financial crisis that once occurred & encountered. Pandemic is also worse than the Great Depression history.
The worst hit industries are
Tourism, hotel management, food & beverage, entertainment, hospitality, aviation airline travel.
Graduates (post pandemic era) from these affected industries faced a very challenging time, looking for jobs !
Even those seasoned, well experienced Performance Arts musician, their professions are not spared neither !
Brave Generation Y speak up, may read his article here -
https://www.todayonline.com/gen-y-speaks/gen-y-speaks-i-was-conductor-opera-houses-around-world-till-covid-19-hit-now-i-deliver -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2020759\" time=\"1618852329\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2020759 time=1618852329 user_id=58173]
Sounds a lot like kidzania! Wish it didn’t have to close.[/quote]I never bring them there! Not sure for the younger during kindy days though, those excursions.MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2020722\" time=\"1618827913\" user_id=\"43981:
Ahh sky!! Those courses sound interesting.. i casually spoke to dd say mommy worry and she told me she has started to worry since last year.[quote=\"sky minecrafter\" post_id=2020718 time=1618821908 user_id=130531]
OT: hijacking StarLight's thread...
Yes, I find polytechnic courses more interesting+ grounded than university courses - optometry, food science, perfumery, to name but a few. & I amuse myself looking out for opportunities for kids to have experiences with both realms - academic; real-world application
So far which ones do you think good/not bad in your opinion..difficult to get into these courses? I was listening to a lecture today..and feel a bit sad that certain professions that can be own boss last time may not be so feasible anymore in the near future and some go into teaching etc. I told dd even if able to get into jc, but no good results may be wasting time also.
Though more uni in Spore now, competition may be fierce too as lesser going overseas now I guess and dd says that may be the situation as of now only ..but still.. I think need to start thinking le.[/quote] -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2020769\" time=\"1618879304\" user_id=\"35251:
True, one sudden event like current one comes out, even the best need to scramble a
Even if you worry until white hair appear,MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2020741\" time=\"1618841444\" user_id=\"43981:
Maybe I should rephrase that..more to say a flexibility of doing something on our own and can still earn some money..like say eg you learn piano maybe one day you decided to stay at home due to kids, probably can give some piano lessons, earn some pocket money. Maybe in future may not be such big problem too as more work could be done anywhere le. I see dd quite flexible in a way other than some obvious dislikes..recently hear her saying dont like arts subjects and she doesn't have much interest in comp IT stuffs, which I guess suppose to be more in thing for their generation??
no use
because
under the post pandemic era, jobs are totally different than before Y2020 !
So many things have changed ! Jobs are so fluid & dynamic nowadays !
Not just work opportunities have changed, but the way organization worked in the past & functioned, have also changed so much !
We can't plan ahead because we find it hard to, not because we do not want to plan. But because we simply cannot foresee what kind of future lies ahead for our kids.
In the past, we used to plan ahead. Eg. have 3 year plan or a 5 year plan, ahead. Now ? We can't even see what's ahead of us 6 months down the road, not to even mention 1 year down the road. So, how to plan ? When you turn on the TV channel for News, what do the newscaster report? Chaos everywhere ! Many world leaders are a loss, don't know how to tackle crisis
Sure, AI will take away some of our mundane jobs ! Not just the robot moving around hawker centre, removing used, dirty plates from customers & placed them back onto their robot tray, but other kind of jobs going to disappear permanently too.
We probably entering into a cashless society soon, under a 5G high tech computerized environment. Can read this article, have a heart-beat feel of what's going to be the next change soon, akan datang
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/19/central-bank-digital-currency-is-the-next-major-financial-disruptor.html
After covid break out last year, millions of people are out of job now, all over the world. Those used to be highly popular industries which fresh graduates love to flock to : companies froze hiring. Fresh graduates find it hard to look for jobs, depression seep in after a period of time, No interview, no job offer come by. Anxiety, mental health impacted, on the rise. Can read this article -
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-fear-toll-mental-health-hotline-anxiety-singapore-12631710
Going forward, the future is going to be very harsh ! Pandemic is an un-precedented event, in entire world history. It is many times far worse, than the global Financial crisis that once occurred & encountered. Pandemic is also worse than the Great Depression history.
The worst hit industries are
Tourism, hotel management, food & beverage, entertainment, hospitality, aviation airline travel.
Graduates (post pandemic era) from these affected industries faced a very challenging time, looking for jobs !
Even those seasoned, well experienced Performance Arts musician, their professions are not spared neither !
Brave Generation Y speak up, may read his article here -
https://www.todayonline.com/gen-y-speaks/gen-y-speaks-i-was-conductor-opera-houses-around-world-till-covid-19-hit-now-i-deliver
round for solutions.
Told dd nowadays a degree unlikely to last long. -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2020760\" time=\"1618852463\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2020760 time=1618852463 user_id=58173]
Yes, I was about to comment that a few of my friends became chefs, housewifes, started their restaurants. And the boys who did D&T, became interior designers, carpenters and some in the construction business.[/quote]Shared with dd too..our hawker culture dont play play many ppl going in.. also those jobs lesser ppl wants to do like plumbers can earn quite abit on per hour basis if have stream of jobs coming in.. half an hour or lesser for $50 and $100 based on my recent jobs.MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2020748\" time=\"1618845218\" user_id=\"43981:
Dd loves home econ[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2020724 time=1618828739 user_id=53606]Just wondering...do your kids do any interesting projects in secondary school/JC? I mean those that have some real-life applications...which may lead to them having more interest in exploring that field...Sometimes I feel very sad that our kids don’t get to explore hands-on much in school. Mostly just drilling for exams.
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Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2020761\" time=\"1618853630\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2020761 time=1618853630 user_id=58173]
Actually I dont mind (dont see and also dont expect) the Pri/Sec academic to have a direct relationship to the job(s). See it as more of getting some knowledge from many areas/ discipline /learn to work as group/socialising, more learning polishing skills for those with leadership opportunities etc, maybe more to structure their thinking while growing up ba. It is the early 'segmentation' that I m more worry abt..for eg, IP/IB/O after P6.. and streaming at Sec2.zac's mum\" post_id=\"2020724\" time=\"1618828739\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2020724 time=1618828739 user_id=53606]Just wondering...do your kids do any interesting projects in secondary school/JC? I mean those that have some real-life applications...which may lead to them having more interest in exploring that field...Sometimes I feel very sad that our kids don’t get to explore hands-on much in school. Mostly just drilling for exams.[/quote]
In some pri schools, there’s peer tutoring, see many “little” aspiring teachers-to-be. A child had to tutor someone who was weaker than her, she said she needed to “quit” cos it’s too hard. Glad she knows teaching can be tough albeit meaningful.
CCA and leadership positions within the school are also hand-on experiences. Budding singers from the choir, musicians from the Band, artists from Visual arts, not forgetting those who plays a sport. Who knows the school prefects /exco members eventually takes on politics?
Besides, I feel the drilling is part and parcel of building a strong foundation to learn more that is ahead. Math skills, language skills, common sense picked up when learning science.. they add up. I believe some have coding classes as well as drama, gymnastics.
In my child’s secondary school, there’s career guidance programs, interviews/CV and mentorship programs for the year 4s. So far, she had to sew some masks for charity...There’s d&t and FCE as well. Bakers, seamstress, all up to what you can imagine ;)[/quote]
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