PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion
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every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
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ChiefKiasu:
To clarify, there is no gag order to stop the announcement of names of top scholars. It is just that MOE will not be officially announcing the names of the top scholars. But that won't stop the press or parents from sniffing out the top scholars. Feel free to post the names of the top scholars and their T-scores from each school to this thread tomorrow.zoolet:
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If the Ministry prevents the annoucement of the scholars, the tution centres should not advertise in their centres that they had which scholars in their centres. Hope the Ministry will be firm in controling such advertisement.
my take, no issue with publicizing high T-scocers. My only concern, our nation becomes not too competitive, in a globalized world. it is brute competition, Of course, the govt. must at the same time help or provide a little safety net to those that falls thru the crack!
Some parents may have the same view, it is the parents' expectation that need to change and NOT the PSLE! Have come across unreasonable parents having unrealistic or high expectations of their kids to get into top IP schools. My relatives work in the education area, had repeatedly shared with us, some (many)parents expecting their kids with T-score more than30+ off the cut-off T-score to get into the IP. This is not only NOT helping the kid, but in return creating more harm than good. These unrealistic parents just want to brag about having a child in IP school etc. In the end, the child was the one that was most stressed out!
We should always take the middle path, know where is the limit and where to push or pull harder! If the string is pull too tight, it will burst! If the string is too loose, it will not make good music! As responsible parents, it is good to have high expectation, BUT, we need to recognize that every child is different and give unconditional love! I don't expect my little ones to be as good as the eldest DD. I accept who they are and to each his/her own abilities. I will give unconditional support and love for them to nurture them to the best of their own potentials. That is all …as a responsible parent. :rahrah: :grphug: -
mistral77:
every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
It'd be really sad if parents or students really get stressed simply by knowing who the top student is. That would imply we are truly kiasu - \"scared to lose\" to others. -
mistral77:
every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
Oh goodness. How does knowing who the top student is stress parents?
I think most parents are discerning and objective enough not to be affected by such information. -
ChiefKiasu:
My sentiment too, although I don't really need to know the names of the top scorers.mistral77:
every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
It'd be really sad if parents or students really get stressed simply by knowing who the top student is. That would imply we are truly kiasu - \"scared to lose\" to others. -
VALyap:
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my take, no issue with publicizing high T-scocers. My only concern, our nation becomes not too competitive, in a globalized world. it is brute competition, Of course, the govt. must at the same time help or provide a little safety net to those that falls thru the crack!
Some parents may have the same view, it is the parents' expectation that need to change and NOT the PSLE! Have come across unreasonable parents having unrealistic or high expectations of their kids to get into top IP schools. My relatives work in the education area, had repeatedly shared with us, some (many)parents expecting their kids with T-score more than30+ off the cut-off T-score to get into the IP. This is not only NOT helping the kid, but in return creating more harm than good. These unrealistic parents just want to brag about having a child in IP school etc. In the end, the child was the one that was most stressed out!
We should always take the middle path, know where is the limit and where to push or pull harder! If the string is pull too tight, it will burst! If the string is too loose, it will not make good music! As responsible parents, it is good to have high expectation, BUT, we need to recognize that every child is different and give unconditional love! -
mistral77:
every one can do their part by lessening the stress of psle by NOT naming any top student in this forum
When one does not compare one's fruit to others, there shall be no stress. Peace. -
Twinkies:
As long as we saw our DC putting in good effort, we should not try to have unrealistic expectation. If results come out well, good. If results not to our expectation, it is OK to feel disappointed but must also try to put everything in proper perspective.
:goodpost:VALyap:
my take, no issue with publicizing high T-scocers. My only concern, our nation becomes not too competitive, in a globalized world. it is brute competition, Of course, the govt. must at the same time help or provide a little safety net to those that falls thru the crack!
Some parents may have the same view, it is the parents' expectation that need to change and NOT the PSLE! Have come across unreasonable parents having unrealistic or high expectations of their kids to get into top IP schools. My relatives work in the education area, had repeatedly shared with us, some (many)parents expecting their kids with T-score more than30+ off the cut-off T-score to get into the IP. This is not only NOT helping the kid, but in return creating more harm than good. These unrealistic parents just want to brag about having a child in IP school etc. In the end, the child was the one that was most stressed out!
We should always take the middle path, know where is the limit and where to push or pull harder! If the string is pull too tight, it will burst! If the string is too loose, it will not make good music! As responsible parents, it is good to have high expectation, BUT, we need to recognize that every child is different and give unconditional love!
We don't want to do any harm to our DC's esteem or morale as there is still a long education journey ahead. -
Kwclif, fully agree!
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ChiefKiasu:
Well said Chief! :thankyou:mistral77:
MOE finally doing the right thing.
I'm not sure. In my humble opinion, it is an over-reaction to all the negativity about the stress level of PSLE. Obfuscation of results doesn't make the stress go away.
If anything, I think it is unjust for the top PSLE scholars this year. They have worked hard for their good results, and they deserve the honors of being officially announced as the top scholars in Singapore. Academic prowess is nothing to be ashamed of!
If no one sets the bar for others to follow, then everyone will end up being contented with mediocre levels. In the long term, we will end up with a sub-standard education system just because we are afraid of people complaining about failing to make the grade. Look at the UK's ensuing debate about the low national GCSE standards versus the more rigorous GCE 'O' Levels taken by international students - how it is blamed for the poorer performance of UK secondary school students versus equivalent students in other countries in international competitions.
PSLE is just a ruler that we use to measure students for their fit to go to various schools. If we are taller, we have to wear longer pants. If we are short and we want to wear longer pants, we have to put in the effort to eat and exercise more so that we can (hopefully) grow taller. Or we simply wear the pants that we are most comfortable with, because we have the highest chance of overall success if we use the tools that suit us best.
If we can understand this fundamental principle, there would be much less complaints about how tall the PSLE ruler is set at. The stress stems from parents' fear of their children not \"meeting the cut\" and ending up in a \"2nd rate\" secondary school. If anything, MOE should look more into convincing parents about the merits of these \"2nd rate\" secondary schools to put them at ease that the schools are really the best fit for their children. That would be addressing the stress directly, instead of simply sweeping PSLE results under the carpet.
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