DSA 2012
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anyone had idea what will RGS visual art domain test will be like?
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Think in 2011, a lot of GEP girls chose RGS. 5 claases of GEP and high performers
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Zann:
If they only look at result, then why call them for interview. Heard the interview perform is also important.
Yes, at first I also concole myself that it does not mean anything, However, when the result were out and I cross checked. It has some meaning in the remark.GoodDad:
[quote=\"Zann\"]
But I also read last year thread and remember they said does not mean anything leh.
I remember one of my DS classmate, the interviewer directly told him, \"please work hard for your PSLE, you still have a chance to come into RI\"
[/quote]The interview is just a \"procedure\". Just to make sure the GEP boys are not dump or something like that. 90% of the applicant already decided before the interview.
I have monitored the DSA ehxercise since 2009, non of GEP boys below 75% awarded CO from RI regardless how well they perform in the interview but I knew many GEP boys with good results, during interview only answer 2 or 3 simple questions and awarded a CO. In the end of the interview, the interviewer still shake hand with the boys.
In HCI interview, even better, during interview for those GEP boys with good result. Instead of asking questions, they were trying to \"sell\" the school to those boys.
The cut off point has move up every year. In year 2009 DSA, my DS school mate, scored 78.8% for his SA1 and awarded CO. I think for this year, with this result no chance manz!!! -
GoodDad:
This has already happen in Sport DSA. The sportman started to train with the sec school team when they are in P6.
And two more months to hang around after PSLE. Heard in the past those who got CO from NUSH already report to NUSH to kick-off enrichment program. Feel RI/RGS/NY/HCI who has the most DSA CO offers perhaps could do the same to engage the kids with CO first, perhaps do projects or something like that.Zann:
[quote=\"Kiasucy\"]
Phew! just feel off loaded from DSA thingy, but only got to recall there is still a SS test soon and school prelim. DS is feeling impatient that why he needs to be drilled again and again on those practice papers. Asked why can't they allow GEPpers tobe exempted from PSLE if they have achieved above 80% in the GE exam? :sad: Got to be tied down for two more over months before he can really move on.
As for DSA to RI/HCI/NUSH/RGS/NYGH, some might not decided which school to choose, how to start project? Some GEP students might have COs from more then 3 schools.[/quote]The entire offer then option exercise procedure could bring earlier. With current no transfer of DSA policy, it is possible now. Just feel the 2 months after PSLE is going to be wasted ! Already the period drilling for PSLE is wasting time for those GE kids who have proven been doing well. Perhaps the GE branch can study letting them join their CO high school earlier. -
Zann:
The entire offer then option exercise procedure could bring earlier. With current no transfer of DSA policy, it is possible now. Just feel the 2 months after PSLE is going to be wasted ! Already the period drilling for PSLE is wasting time for those GE kids who have proven been doing well. Perhaps the GE branch can study letting them join their CO high school earlier.[/quote]Yes agreed. But when the boys are in Sec Sch, they will have more then enough projects. If you think not to waste the 2 months after the PSLE, why not do some CIP work not to increase the CIP hours but turely serve the community
This has already happen in Sport DSA. The sportman started to train with the sec school team when they are in P6.GoodDad:
[quote=\"Zann\"]
And two more months to hang around after PSLE. Heard in the past those who got CO from NUSH already report to NUSH to kick-off enrichment program. Feel RI/RGS/NY/HCI who has the most DSA CO offers perhaps could do the same to engage the kids with CO first, perhaps do projects or something like that.
As for DSA to RI/HCI/NUSH/RGS/NYGH, some might not decided which school to choose, how to start project? Some GEP students might have COs from more then 3 schools.
I have seen too many students with super good result but still lack of the \"heart\". They are our future leaders. Hope to see some changes in the future. -
leeven:
when was your DS. thats great to hear no tough questions . some questions was really like what is the capital of Africa. :siao:[/quote]Africa is a continent comprising many countries. So there is no capital of Africa as such. Unless they asked for the capital of a specific African country.8228:
[quote=\"leeven\"]GEP RI DSA all complete ? I dont see any KP's msg's on it. I followed it till last 18th then no more I see please share your experience
Should have completed. My ds said it was just chit-chat, no tough questions. Now, just have to wait for the results patiently. -
GoodDad:
The entire offer then option exercise procedure could bring earlier. With current no transfer of DSA policy, it is possible now. Just feel the 2 months after PSLE is going to be wasted ! Already the period drilling for PSLE is wasting time for those GE kids who have proven been doing well. Perhaps the GE branch can study letting them join their CO high school earlier.Zann:
[quote=\"GoodDad\"]
This has already happen in Sport DSA. The sportman started to train with the sec school team when they are in P6.
As for DSA to RI/HCI/NUSH/RGS/NYGH, some might not decided which school to choose, how to start project? Some GEP students might have COs from more then 3 schools.
Yes agreed. But when the boys are in Sec Sch, they will have more then enough projects. If you think not to waste the 2 months after the PSLE, why not do some CIP work not to increase the CIP hours but turely serve the community
I have seen too many students with super good result but still lack of the \"heart\". They are our future leaders. Hope to see some changes in the future.[/quote]Yes, CIP should be included. So they get to learn and serve. They can go to the secondary school library to explore and read for interest, back home read. weekend or simply do anything they like. -
Kiasucy:
I am a newbie but have been following this thread for quite some time. I have really enjoyed reading postings from some parents who share their frustration, joy, achievements, advice without reservation.friendship:
So being in GEP there is still an advantage over the mainstream right?
It is never an apple to apple comparison. Not forget the GE subjects are rigorous and more advance level. English is pitched at Sec level, which is unfair to them if you want to compare with mainstreamers. To achieve Eng 70+ is consider not bad and GEP students have to work very hard to achieve above 80% then again there are students at 80% in the past merely got WL for the DSA to RI, or rejected by HCI. They take the same DSA entry test to NUSH, NJC, and many others. No special advantage! There exists GE students who do not have any DSA offer at all in the past. To achieve 80% and above in GE subjects are tough. If GEP students have could achieve above 80%, they are more likely to do well in PSLE.
Mainstreamers are given sufficient foundation building and well prepared for PSLE and if they work hard also, likewise they can also get into the top school.
With the recent few postings, I felt that some of us have forgotten the very essence of GEP. It is a curriculum that is designed to stretch the minds on a wide range of topics. GEP is NOT about accelerated learning for the PSLE and not meant to compare the gifted from the mainstreamers. Is it vigorous - yes because it is meant to challenge .. more advanced ? - perhaps depending on the context. Being gifted is a blessing and not a ticket to success. Above all, gifted kids needs to be nurtured, and as John Hays Hammond says it “Character is the real foundation for all worthwhile success”.
GEP kids are given advantages such as access to a special DSA category (while it doesn't guarantee you a DSA spot, it certainly increases your chances compared to mainstream kids applying through the Academic route). Whether this is desirable or not, I will keep my opinions to myself.
Let's not forget the main objective of the GEP and that is to provide a type of education that allows the intellectually gifted to thrive. it is not about the marks or the grade (>80% or <80%) but all about differentiated learning.
In all fairness, the mainstreamers don't have it easy either - the current mainstream primary school syllabus is stifling and far from ideal. All the students should have an opportunity to experience an education system that is less rigid and one that encourage creativity.
As a parent whose child has experienced the GEP, I see its value. However, in preparation for PSLE, I understand that it is mundane and offer no challenge going through past year exam papers but I tell my son to look on the bright side of things - take PSLE as part of life that everyone student has to go through in Singapore and challenge himself to work towards achieving good results. Look forward to the few months after PSLE where he can explore his learning and quench his thirst to his hearts content. Peace to all
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Just to check… for the GEP DSA to RI, did the interviewer for all the various groups ask the students to present the project/portfolio that they have brought along to the interview?
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pitterpatter:
I am a newbie but have been following this thread for quite some time. I have really enjoyed reading postings from some parents who share their frustration, joy, achievements, advice without reservation. Kiasucy:
[quote=\"friendship\"]So being in GEP there is still an advantage over the mainstream right?
It is never an apple to apple comparison. Not forget the GE subjects are rigorous and more advance level. English is pitched at Sec level, which is unfair to them if you want to compare with mainstreamers. To achieve Eng 70+ is consider not bad and GEP students have to work very hard to achieve above 80% then again there are students at 80% in the past merely got WL for the DSA to RI, or rejected by HCI. They take the same DSA entry test to NUSH, NJC, and many others. No special advantage! There exists GE students who do not have any DSA offer at all in the past. To achieve 80% and above in GE subjects are tough. If GEP students have could achieve above 80%, they are more likely to do well in PSLE.
Mainstreamers are given sufficient foundation building and well prepared for PSLE and if they work hard also, likewise they can also get into the top school.
With the recent few postings, I felt that some of us have forgotten the very essence of GEP. It is a curriculum that is designed to stretch the minds on a wide range of topics. GEP is NOT about accelerated learning for the PSLE and not meant to compare the gifted from the mainstreamers. Is it vigorous - yes because it is meant to challenge .. more advanced ? - perhaps depending on the context. Being gifted is a blessing and not a ticket to success. Above all, gifted kids needs to be nurtured, and as John Hays Hammond says it “Character is the real foundation for all worthwhile success”.
GEP kids are given advantages such as access to a special DSA category (while it doesn't guarantee you a DSA spot, it certainly increases your chances compared to mainstream kids applying through the Academic route). Whether this is desirable or not, I will keep my opinions to myself.
Let's not forget the main objective of the GEP and that is to provide a type of education that allows the intellectually gifted to thrive. it is not about the marks or the grade (>80% or <80%) but all about differentiated learning.
In all fairness, the mainstreamers don't have it easy either - the current mainstream primary school syllabus is stifling and far from ideal. All the students should have an opportunity to experience an education system that is less rigid and one that encourage creativity.
As a parent whose child has experienced the GEP, I see its value. However, in preparation for PSLE, I understand that it is mundane and offer no challenge going through past year exam papers but I tell my son to look on the bright side of things - take PSLE as part of life that everyone student has to go through in Singapore and challenge himself to work towards achieving good results. Look forward to the few months after PSLE where he can explore his learning and quench his thirst to his hearts content. Peace to all[/quote] :goodpost:
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