All About Choosing and Buying Pianos
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Any comments on Kawai KX21? It is made in china, a brand new cost approx $4.8k. Is it worth buying? Compare to a 2nd hand U1? So much choices, confused
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Dreamaurora:
hahaha. the thing is i'm more of playing for leisure now. it's been more than 10 years since i prepared for grade 8. and kids being kids.. i didn't take the exam in the end after preparing for almost 2 years.If budget is no concern, get whatever you think sounds the nicest. You will be much more motivated to practice.
Speaking of K8, it does not really provide that instant beautiful tone more readily like its Yamaha and Petrof counterpart, but I like it because it's kind of like a beast that I can keep working to tame it. :evil:
my current piano is breaking down now.. hence i'm on the hunt for a new one. heading to chiu piano later. i'd definitely prefer getting a german piano than a jap one. haha.
K8 would be rather acceptable if you do not want to stretch your budget too much. but the tone lacks something. kinda like the ooomph! is missing. haha.. which the haessler definitely has.. -
rex21:
How much is RP asking for the Haessler K124?wondering if Haessler K124 is worth buying? it certainly edges out the Kawai K-8 in terms of sound! still many more models to look at.
rex21:
Oh no, I think you've been bitten by the piano bug. :evil: I always feel that one should get the best piano within budget, cos like education, you can't put a price on music.how to settle for something lesser when you've heard a sound that is so much better!
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FQW:
haha check the classified ad yesterday, think it's something like S$21,600 cash nett due to easter day promotion. original price about S$27,000+ if i remember correctly.
How much is RP asking for the Haessler K124?rex21:
wondering if Haessler K124 is worth buying? it certainly edges out the Kawai K-8 in terms of sound! still many more models to look at.
rex21:
Oh no, I think you've been bitten by the piano bug. :evil: I always feel that one should get the best piano within budget, cos like education, you can't put a price on music.how to settle for something lesser when you've heard a sound that is so much better!
it's hardly my budget to begin with since it's probably my parents who will be paying for it. so i feel bad if it's gonna be too expensive.. maybe to them it'll all sound the same.. but to me.. the differences are very glaring to my ear. so i'm really torn now. haha.
but i'd definitely want the best i can get out there! -
back frm chiu piano. tried the various Steingraeber, Schimmel & Wilh.Steinberg they had there. was rather taken with the Schimmel C130. it has a very sweet voice. but i find the bass lacking in power.
still kinda leaning towards the Haessler K124.. -
rex21:
Oops, I thought you're a parent like me. Whoa, $20K+ is a lot of money to spend on a piano. Since your parents are gonna to foot the bill, better seek their opinion/approval first.
haha check the classified ad yesterday, think it's something like S$21,600 cash nett due to easter day promotion. original price about S$27,000+ if i remember correctly.
it's hardly my budget to begin with since it's probably my parents who will be paying for it. so i feel bad if it's gonna be too expensive.. maybe to them it'll all sound the same.. but to me.. the differences are very glaring to my ear. so i'm really torn now. haha.
As a parent myself, I know there're lots of bills to pay and buying a piano would most probably rank low in the natural order of things. Does that make me sound old and naggy? My son says so.rex21:
back frm chiu piano. tried the various Steingraeber, Schimmel & Wilh.Steinberg they had there. was rather taken with the Schimmel C130. it has a very sweet voice. but i find the bass lacking in power.
I know that Steingraeber is a super ex piano. Generally speaking, those piano brands I can't pronounce are all very ex. :scared: -
FQW:
hahaha.. actually i'm thinking of asking them to pay upfront for me, then i pay back every month la.. i'm already working but not to the extent where i can plonk 20k out straight! lol.Oops, I thought you're a parent like me. Whoa, $20K+ is a lot of money to spend on a piano. Since your parents are gonna to foot the bill, better seek their opinion/approval first.
As a parent myself, I know there're lots of bills to pay and buying a piano would most probably rank low in the natural order of things. Does that make me sound old and naggy? My son says so.
I know that Steingraeber is a super ex piano. Generally speaking, those piano brands I can't pronounce are all very ex. :scared:
that day i told them i want to buy a piano, my mum just said ok, buy lor. then i said but a good one should be upwards of 10k.. hahaha.. seems like my budget has doubled now!!
interestingly, I didn't like the Steingraeber at all. Mr Chiu told me it costs 50k. haha. after hearing the price tag it was quite a disappointment when i played it. nothing really stood out. perhaps didn't tune? even my friend who accompanied me, and has no musical background said that it loses out to the Schimmel. :siao: -
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wow.. is that the IN thing to do? i remember another forumner here, markfch also engraved his son's name on his Sauter? [/quote]hey i think i just realized something ........................
Yalor, Last Waltz contains some arpeggios which made for beautiful music.FQW:
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didn't get to hear the Last Waltz for demo.. what a pity..
maybe the guy wasn't there on that day.. we had to demo DIY..
so which piano did u get?
I got the Sauter M1 in the end. Very nice piano too - even had my son's name engraved on it. So now if I ever have to sell this piano for whatever reason, I just need to find a buyer with the same name as my son. :yikes:
............... you two have the same ds!!! :rotflmao: -
rex21:
i like the Schimmel C130 alot too ~ it was a tough decision between it and the bechstein a1.back frm chiu piano. tried the various Steingraeber, Schimmel & Wilh.Steinberg they had there. was rather taken with the Schimmel C130. it has a very sweet voice. but i find the bass lacking in power.
still kinda leaning towards the Haessler K124..
for the bass which you found lacking, it might be due to the showroom condition..? unless you plan to place your piano in a very large room / hall, i would say the C130 is very powerful oredi.. jmho.. -
FQW:
no wonder i can never figure out whether it's pronounced Sao-ter or Sor-ter or Sow-ter... :faint:
I know that Steingraeber is a super ex piano. Generally speaking, those piano brands I can't pronounce are all very ex. :scared: -
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hahaha.. btw where can i try bechstein?i like the Schimmel C130 alot too ~ it was a tough decision between it and the bechstein a1.
for the bass which you found lacking, it might be due to the showroom condition..? unless you plan to place your piano in a very large room / hall, i would say the C130 is very powerful oredi.. jmho..
hmm.. the showroom was actually very small. they closed the door too so i could hear everything clearly. my piano will actually be under a stairway too so sound is amplified too. sigh.
the Schimmel C130 price would be abt S$28k.
while the Haessler K124 with promotional price only abt S$22k.
Schimmel sounds really sweet and soothing. I had a blast playing it. haha.
on the other hand, Haessler had a very grand sound. very powerful. the bass keys were great. the piano sounded like it was singing too. -
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Whether it is Sao-ter or Sor-ter or Sow-ter - or a rose by any other name - as long as you don't call it Siao-ter, I'll be grateful.
no wonder i can never figure out whether it's pronounced Sao-ter or Sor-ter or Sow-ter... :faint: -
rex21:
If that's the case and if your parents are well-heeled, then why not?
hahaha.. actually i'm thinking of asking them to pay upfront for me, then i pay back every month la.. i'm already working but not to the extent where i can plonk 20k out straight! lol.
Better to pay more for something you really like than regret in the long run.rex21:
Technically speaking, you didn't say anything wrong mah. You said upwards of 10K, and 20K+ is indeed upwards of 10K.that day i told them i want to buy a piano, my mum just said ok, buy lor. then i said but a good one should be upwards of 10k.. hahaha.. seems like my budget has doubled now!!
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rex21:
You can try the Bechstein A1 and C-Bechstein-124 at Cristofori Funan. You may also want to look at Grotrian at the PianoMaster at Paya Lebah.
hahaha.. btw where can i try bechstein?Intermezzo:
i like the Schimmel C130 alot too ~ it was a tough decision between it and the bechstein a1.
for the bass which you found lacking, it might be due to the showroom condition..? unless you plan to place your piano in a very large room / hall, i would say the C130 is very powerful oredi.. jmho..
hmm.. the showroom was actually very small. they closed the door too so i could hear everything clearly. my piano will actually be under a stairway too so sound is amplified too. sigh.
the Schimmel C130 price would be abt S$28k.
while the Haessler K124 with promotional price only abt S$22k.
Schimmel sounds really sweet and soothing. I had a blast playing it. haha.
on the other hand, Haessler had a very grand sound. very powerful. the bass keys were great. the piano sounded like it was singing too. -
KKKS:
You can try the Bechstein A1 and C-Bechstein-124 at Cristofori Funan. You may also want to look at Grotrian at the PianoMaster at Paya Lebah.
Yup, and 30K+ is still upwards of 10K so rex21 is still within budget. :evil: -
FQW:
very evil.. :scared: hahahaha..KKKS:
You can try the Bechstein A1 and C-Bechstein-124 at Cristofori Funan. You may also want to look at Grotrian at the PianoMaster at Paya Lebah.
Yup, and 30K+ is still upwards of 10K so rex21 is still within budget. :evil:
i've yet to try sauter too! -
rex21:
very evil.. :scared: hahahaha..FQW:
[quote=\"KKKS\"]You can try the Bechstein A1 and C-Bechstein-124 at Cristofori Funan. You may also want to look at Grotrian at the PianoMaster at Paya Lebah.
Yup, and 30K+ is still upwards of 10K so rex21 is still within budget. :evil:
i've yet to try sauter too![/quote]At least FQW did not mention about the Steinway K-125 or K-132... -
BTW, Sauter ML 130 is not far off!!!
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rex21:
Unfortunately following the refurbishment of VCH, the Sauter showroom is no more. Dealer is busy searching for alternative location at present.
very evil.. :scared: hahahaha..
i've yet to try sauter too!KKKS:
Oh yah, they have a very nice showroom at Palasis Renaissance.At least FQW did not mention about the Steinway K-125 or K-132...
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FQW:
haha.. i spoke to alvin. he said he has 1 piano at his air-conditioned warehouse. if i want i can make an appointment with him and we try it out there. apparently several people have been by there to try out the piano!Unfortunately following the refurbishment of VCH, the Sauter showroom is no more. Dealer is busy searching for alternative location at present.
Oh yah, they have a very nice showroom at Palasis Renaissance.KKKS:
At least FQW did not mention about the Steinway K-125 or K-132...
Steinway huh. maybe if I eat bread for the next 3 years only? hahaha.. but i'm under the impression that Steinway uprights are not really up to mark? haha.. maybe my opinion will change when i try it out..