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    • B Offline
      buds
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      http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html Errr... hello? Issit safe for buds to come out and play now?


      Whatever it is, i surrender first hor.. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html

      I was spoilt for choice on where to mark my 9000th post but since now
      the coast here a bit clear, i ehekhemm.. decided that after weighing the
      pros and cons... http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html, i will mark it in this post with an extensive sharing, so pleeeze bear with me. :oops:

      Honestly, i thought discussing General Election issues were already heated
      enough, but phew... it was kinda hot in here when it started so i kinda errr..
      chickened out for awhile... well, knowing the low profile me... 😉... and
      will now get my chicken in. :lol: I'm on the fence with this never-ending issue
      with our ministry proposed style of teaching... http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html but am going to offer some of my personal sharings
      based on how our education system fared for my children & I since its implementation... with my not so powderful England. 😉

      TEACH LESS, LEARN MORE

      \"TLLM would mean less dependence on rote learning, repetitive tests
      and a ‘one size fits all’ type of instruction, and more on experiential
      discovery, engaged learning, differentiated teaching, the learning of life-
      long skills, and the building of character through innovative and effective
      teaching approaches and strategies.\"


      The above is taken from the official website marking the http://www.moe.gov.sg/about/yearbooks/2005/teach.html.

      For as long as i could remember, parents here have been complaining of
      the many assessments and tests and more tests on top the rote styled
      learning of yesteryears.. Hence upon the many feedbacks and research
      done by MOE, it finally chop to endorse the Teach Less, Learn More method
      in schools. When it was first piloted however, not all schools started this
      method at the same time... good in a way cause the method can be refined
      further as it went along. As with any new programmes, new teachers, new
      baby (etc)... it takes time for the new idea to sink in with the children, their
      parents (us) and definitely even with the teaching personnel. It's akin to an
      instance where the Teach Less part was married off with the Learn More.
      As with any marriage, again, it takes time to reach the stage where things
      hit off & slowly move into auto pilot mode. The method was cynically viewed
      as we all know how teaching in schools have always been rote learning =
      sit-down-face-whiteboard-listen-to-teacher kinda learning... so how in the
      world would a teacher even begin to fathom the idea of teaching less of the
      required curriculum within the same time frame?

      Teaching Less

      As per what the website indicated... Teach Less, Learn More is about teaching
      better, to engage our learners and prepare them for life, rather than teaching more,
      for tests and examinations.

      Now, how do teachers go around teaching less to begin with and yet complete
      the curriculum proper? How to ensure there's quality teaching as opposed to the
      then quantity teaching which equates to long draggy periods of lecture mode?
      The answer is, the teachers themselves gotta learn more... for
      that is the only way to approach the method imposed on them as
      constructive as possible.

      In view of this change, teachers supposedly go for training to facilitate this
      new idea of teaching the syllabus. I like to add that i see this idea pumped
      more into the lower primary in the beginning.. Teaching less to engage our
      new learners at P1/P2 levels does offer a holistic dimension that aimed to
      benefit children of all the different types of learning abilities, pre-taught
      knowledge, family backgrounds (etc). The modes of assessment go beyond
      pen and paper based exams, which in reality bodes well for majority of the
      average learners within our communities who can afford only basic
      kindergarten education, which at this juncture is still not compulsory but...
      definitely highly encouraged.

      What's different for learners at this stage? My DD2 came into this method
      the moment she entered her little feet to formal primary education and i
      for one tried to look at this new idea positively & was drawn into this new
      idea with teachers who must've ploughed thru' sleepless nites preparing
      their lessons... for teaching less only means they have waaaayy more to
      prepare to ensure that the young learners are indeed engaged.

      The teachers in the school (neighbourhood sch by the way)... :love: lovingly
      prepared a whole semester of events and activities for the children and
      guess what...? Also for the parents! Yes, you didn't hear me or rather
      read me wrongly... parents are given more opportunities to learn together
      with our children on the different areas of learning and assessments and
      were advised on the rubrics at the beginning of the first term. Parents were
      given more opportunities to work hand in hand with the children, the school
      and the teachers with alternative teaching modes. Children got to work in
      groups, in pairs and also individually which in a nutshell allowed children
      to work on leadership skills, interaction skills, public speaking skills and
      also skills that enable them to think out of the box... which many parents
      have emphasized our local children lack due to the then labeled as the
      stifling-textbook-manner of teaching children. Cookie cutter mode some
      said. This opening up to parents was definitely a new thing for us and a
      big hit with most parents as schools are usually seen as a closed-door
      instituition. With Teach Less parents also get to learn more about what's
      being carried out in our children's classes & how they are being assessed.

      Show & Tell... Project Work... Charity Work... Exhibitions... IT Learning...
      Field Trips/Learning Journeys... Class Presentations... Stage Performances..
      The above were a few of the new ideas my child and i have enjoyed with
      this Teach Less method in place. Did it meet our expectations? In our
      opinion, YES! My child loved school... looked forward going to school and
      absorbed all the fun ideas without so much as having to study for testing..
      but study to really learn... and not just classroom textbook based lessons
      but also out of classroom experiences that they truly enjoyed. Children got
      to work in the garden for early science exposure, went to the Science Ctr
      for follow-up and submitted a group project for class presentation and
      finally showcased their ideas with a mini exhibition. Yes... my little girl
      actually did all that. And learnt so much from the experiences... This
      would not have been possible if the education system kept to its old
      school whiteboard-based learning where the teachers are always rushing
      to finish the curriculum and pile children with endless homeworks that they
      in turn have to mark, which adds to their list of to-dos as well.

      For Language, children got to visit the library more often as classes take
      turns to sit down and watch drama skits... participate in drama classes...
      listen to story-tellers... exposed to more books and yes get opportunities
      to tell about the books they read (the teachers introduce books appropriate
      for their level) and also get to rate how interesting the books are based on
      their genre of interest. Funny books and retold stories got the most thumbs
      up, so i've heard. 😉 Parents enjoyed Reading Night where all of us
      came with our books and picnic mats and snacks... crowded the school
      hall to listen to engaging story-tellers from the National Library... be
      awestruck by children performances and choral reading based on the
      Stellar books covered for the term... a lotta work i tell you, but... our
      children learn. Grammar contents were covered by the given Stellar
      worksheets and more from teacher-prepared materials that encompassed
      the specific grammar rules that was to be covered in the curriculum plan
      handed out to parents during the first term.

      Children were assessed based on classroom participation, how they behave,
      how they helped peers and teachers alike, how they understood what was
      delivered in and outside of the classroom, topical papers based on monthly
      theme/book (etc... etc...) too many to name but in short everyone gets to
      shine and excel in the attributes-variant where it isn't just paper based..
      But yes... Teachers are still expected to cover the curriculum proper ie.
      textbooks & activity/workbooks on top of all those fun activities.

      Gotta end this sharing here for now for i gotta fetch my DD1 from supp
      class which is another fun extra the sch is providing... will share more
      if my sharings can provide the different perspective to what TLLM has
      to offer.

      To end this sharing, my girls and i evaluated the method... and the end
      result? Did they really learn more?

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      Happy to note, i got a resounding YESSSS!

      PS : As with any human-reliant industry... it is with profound knowledge
      that we all know \"the teacher\" plays a huuuuge part in ensuring this
      TLLM method to be a successful one. While there are still way too
      many teachers who do indeed go bo-chap on us and the children
      (yes, i have experience and can really shame the teacher if i
      really want to.. :x) it's only fair that we give due credit to the
      ones who truly truly truly and relentlessly make it work... and
      in my case... it worked big time! :celebrate:

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      • C Offline
        Chenonceau
        last edited by

        Buds, that was a beautifully written post. It really captures Teach Less Learn More in all that it was meant to be. You pulled out all the stops for the 9000th eh dearie? This is impressive writing indeed.


        By the way, where did you get that emoticon with the wall and you peeking from behind?

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          smurf
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          Wow Buds


          If ur England not powerful, I dunno what kind of England Im writing…hee.

          I can’t help it, but thought that your gals are in lower primary? I’m not sure in other sch, but in my boy’s school, in p1 at least, the teachers engage the children in fun learning way too. Similar to what Buds’ gals school is doing. They even have mother tongue languages week which embark the children in many activities such as sampling food of different ethnic group during recess time, and the children MUST converse in their mother tongue so as to ‘order’ what they want to have/eat, etc.

          I was wondering if these kind of learning happens only in neighborhood schools or those not so academically inclined schools (my boy school is not academically inclined) Or maybe the schools have so much time on hand that they organize such activities? Haha…

          Or maybe it happens only in lower primary, and when it comes to upper primary, then its drilling all the way to PSLE??

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            Chenonceau
            last edited by

            smurf:
            Wow Buds


            If ur England not powerful, I dunno what kind of England Im writing...hee.

            I can't help it, but thought that your gals are in lower primary? I'm not sure in other sch, but in my boy's school, in p1 at least, the teachers engage the children in fun learning way too. Similar to what Buds' gals school is doing. They even have mother tongue languages week which embark the children in many activities such as sampling food of different ethnic group during recess time, and the children MUST converse in their mother tongue so as to 'order' what they want to have/eat, etc.

            I was wondering if these kind of learning happens only in neighborhood schools or those not so academically inclined schools (my boy school is not academically inclined) Or maybe the schools have so much time on hand that they organize such activities? Haha...

            Or maybe it happens only in lower primary, and when it comes to upper primary, then its drilling all the way to PSLE??
            I'm not sure but I rather suspect that the current batch of P5 & P6 are a group caught in uncomfortable transition. They were taught using traditional methods in lower primary BUT they are tested in Upper Primary according to the newer Learn More standards. Could it be?

            I am pretty sure that the Teach Less Learn More methods are highly effective in skills building if properly done... and if Buds' kids are in Lower Primary and this has been her experience, our nation has hope yet!! Yay!! Unfortunately though, for the current batches of P5 & P6 parents we're in transition?

            I reckon I am not feeling the stress for Science and English because we've been doing many of these Teach Less Learn More activities for fun at home (without knowing that it would help for exams). We've been doing experiments for fun since he was in Pampers and when he saw how the red dyed hot water immersed in a pail of cold water exploded like an underwater volcano, he was hooked. As for English, we've also been doing stuff for fun. He reads the Straits Times Insight and we talk about it.

            The result is that he can handle the practice papers for Science and English easily enough even this year, even without doing assessments.

            Unfortunately, for Math, I held him back by refusing to teach him beyond the syllabus. Math isn't fun for me so we didn't do Math for fun. Math was work and it never occurred to me that he would fail P5 SA1 if I held him back. As for Chinese, I'm hopeless and I didn't know how to have fun with him... And now, we have to resort to drastic measures so that he can tackle PSLE and get into a good school. Sob!!

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              Sun_2010
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              buds:
              Errr... hello? Issit safe for buds to come out and play now?
              buds, you should come out and play more often :nunchuk:
              remember - All work and no play ,

              Thanks for that informative write up.

              the point is while TLLM is an excellent methodology, the point is it is only as good as its teacher. after all Tool is only as good as the skills of the craftman using it.
              So lets cross our fingers and pray. 🙏

              So far DS seems to be enjoying, but we are not sure what is happenning at school... , only info is there will be a show n tell, they is a learning Journey, spelling etc.

              DS does on his own, while i butt in at times and try to help him out - sometimes i realise i am being a Nuisance and a times i wish I had intervened earlier. The problems is when i intervene I expect some standards :oops:

              That makes me wish that teacher would let us know when and where parents could help and what are the ones the children are left alone to do by themselves. What is really expected of the children.
              Waiting for the PTM...

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                buds
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                smurf:
                Wow Buds


                If ur England not powerful, I dunno what kind of England Im writing...hee.
                I scared to write oso at first especially in the company of my favourite
                resident writer whom i now know is top 2% u noe.. *gulp* .. but phew..
                just hoping no strawberries thrown at me, k?http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html

                Just thought to help bring us aaaallll back to the original gist of this thread
                nia. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html

                It is indeed a debatable issue for no two teachers are alike in a sense but
                not to say that all's bad lar. There are pros and there are cons and there
                are those bo-chaps that do get on my nerves sometimes. Positively put,
                it is not entirely the fault of the idea of Teach Less, Learn More but rather
                subjective to the individuals who are actually carrying out this idea.. for if
                they embrace it and learn to deliver it well, our children benefit more than
                we know rather than if they bo-chap and don't bother even trying it out &
                making parents go frantic with outsourcing everything which takes up like
                sooo much time outside the home. Where is the time to rest then? Where
                is the time to be the children that they are?

                Discussion is healthy. Hopefully we can all learn from our different
                experiences.. and be more prepared needless of the outcomes of
                the differing schools of thought. These sharings also help me to
                appreciate my girls' teachers more than i already do.. for there
                are indeed exemplary and extraordinary teachers out there. I
                for one am proud to say, i've shook the hands of many... & still
                in contact with some.

                If in eventuality reality does bite, at least from these constructive
                discussions we & other new parents to formal education are more
                prepped and less :!:...
                smurf:
                I can't help it, but thought that your gals are in lower primary? I'm not sure in other sch, but in my boy's school, in p1 at least, the teachers engage the children in fun learning way too. Similar to what Buds' gals school is doing. They even have mother tongue languages week which embark the children in many activities such as sampling food of different ethnic group during recess time, and the children MUST converse in their mother tongue so as to 'order' what they want to have/eat, etc.
                That's good to know, smurf. :hugs:
                smurf:
                I was wondering if these kind of learning happens only in neighborhood schools or those not so academically inclined schools (my boy school is not academically inclined) Or maybe the schools have so much time on hand that they organize such activities? Haha...
                Don't liddat say lar dahling.. definitely not. Neighbourhood schools have
                been the underdog performers of late and my girls' old school produced
                top ten psle scorers a coupla times too. :love: The teachers in their sch
                in my honest opinion makes the school a banded one. Reason being....
                every teacher bands together with a hands-on principal to ensure that
                no child is left behind wherever they can help it.

                Mostly done within school curriculum time except for learning journeys,
                probably mass exhibitions and also extra workshops or supplementary
                lessons. Again, subjective to the individual school.
                smurf:
                Or maybe it happens only in lower primary, and when it comes to upper primary, then its drilling all the way to PSLE??
                P3 onwards more content. While there may still be fun activities organised
                on and off... it definitely will not be as much as during the first two years..
                but again, with a dedicated teacher who finds it in herself to shake each
                and every one of her children to wake up their idea, even the impossible
                is possible. I believe with good foundation, our children's education can
                pave itself in the right direction. PSLE is not entirely about P6 work but
                really encompassing work done from P1 to P6 if we look at it.

                While i may not totally advocate pre-teaching as necessary for different
                folks call for different strokes, it may be required when parents are
                forced upon themselves to deal with those uhmmm bo-chaps and the
                heck-its. Very angry if i start talking about those patterns... so better
                stick to thread topic, aye? :lol:

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                  tamarind
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                  [quote]
                  Neighbourhood schools have been the underdog performers of late and my girls' old school produced top ten psle scorers a coupla times too.[/quote]buds,
                  That school is definitely not just any neighbourhood school, it is a \"premium\" neighbourhood school. Most neighbourhood schools do not have any top 10 PSLE scorers.

                  My kids' neighbourhood school only produced 1 top 10 PSLE scorer in 10 years. It is the top choice in my area, because none of the other primary schools have produced any top scorer in their entire history.

                  My kids' school do have some activities that you mentioned. However, recently I heard one parent complaining that her girl was made to do Grammar workbook from page 20+ to 90+ in one day 😞 Quite sad. My girl also encountered teachers who made the whole class write the exact same set of words for a few days just before SA1. I think it really depends on the teacher.

                  Whatever methodology it is that MOE is trying to implement, if they don't have proper control over how teachers teach, it is still quite useless.

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                    Brenda10
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                    I remembered when dd was in P1 (year 2006), the system was : Project SEED (Strategies for Effective Engagement and Development of pupils in primary schools).


                    There was also not formal exam in P1 and they gave out "Progressing Report". Formal Exam like SA1, SA2 only started from P2 onward.


                    Not sure what is the different between SEED and TLLM ?

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                      buds
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                      Chenonceau:
                      Buds, that was a beautifully written post. It really captures Teach Less Learn More in all that it was meant to be. You pulled out all the stops for the 9000th eh dearie? This is impressive writing indeed.

                      Coming from you, my sleek French lady... is a beautiful compliment.
                      Am blushing myself pink! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php

                      Pulled out stops awrite! :lol: You can't know how itching i was to reply to
                      Way2GO's quip on the swimming costume thingy over at the phrase game
                      and how even itchier i was not being able to pitch my tent over at the notti
                      phrases game too! :faint: Abstinence ain't as easy as they said it would be. :politebleah:

                      Aniwaes, i'm a sentimental wreck.. just that i want my achievements marked
                      in threads i either care about or have affinity with.. when i get my kachings
                      from Chief. Heh.. Sucker uh?
                      Chenonceau:
                      By the way, where did you get that emoticon with the wall and you peeking from behind?
                      Don't tell you! Nah nah nah poo poo! :cheeky:

                      Naaaah... google it darl! Go search Free Smileys and you'll be spoilt for
                      choice! 😉

                      Btw my kiddies are in P4 and P2. :please:

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                        buds
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                        Sun_2010:
                        buds:

                        Errr... hello? Issit safe for buds to come out and play now?

                        buds, you should come out and play more often :nunchuk:
                        remember - All work and no play ,

                        I was chicken. :siam:
                        Sun_2010:
                        Thanks for that informative write up.
                        That was actually cut short for if i can be honest... in between that i had to
                        multi-task bf-ing buds_chubs and then changed him when he did a poopy
                        on me then multi-task again tapping him to sleep and when i finally got
                        the adrenaline rushing in, i had to go get DD1 from school! :frustrated:

                        But that's just for today.. 😉 Most days i'm quite free. Hee. 😎
                        Sun_2010:
                        [the point is while TLLM is an excellent methodology, the point is it is only as good as its teacher. after all Tool is only as good as the skills of the craftman using it. So lets cross our fingers and pray. 🙏
                        Aaah.. there's also the Principal who has a role to play in all this too. 😉
                        Sun_2010:
                        [So far DS seems to be enjoying, but we are not sure what is happenning at school... , only info is there will be a show n tell, they is a learning Journey, spelling etc.
                        There's more sharing from me with regards to this but well.. time no enuff
                        for me today it seems.. blaaah.. :roll:
                        Sun_2010:
                        [DS does on his own, while i butt in at times and try to help him out - sometimes i realise i am being a Nuisance and a times i wish I had intervened earlier. The problems is when i intervene I expect some standards :oops:
                        You are a normal parent, Sunny! :celebrate:
                        Sun_2010:
                        [That makes me wish that teacher would let us know when and where parents could help and what are the ones the children are left alone to do by themselves. What is really expected of the children.
                        Waiting for the PTM...
                        Parents shouldn't just wait for PTM. The communication btwn parents and
                        teachers should ideally be established since day 1. Know how to win over
                        your children's teachers so that they in turn will win your hearts over too..
                        That my friend, i save for another sharing ok?

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