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    Teach Less, Learn More

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      Chenonceau
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      Buds, I think you expressed what I felt in my heart. The methodology is robust but not all Teachers can carry it off… And not all Principals support it wholeheartedly yet. I also think you were most convincing because you actually did experience it in a primary school. My own experience of Teach Less Learn More has been with adult learners.


      What you shared gave me renewed faith in the MOE, and I do hope it is just a matter of waiting for the kinks to be ironed out. By then too, my kids would have grown up. But it may benefit the grandchildren. Meanwhile, I’ll just work a bit harder to help my son manage.

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        cantbearit2
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        Chenonceau:
        cantbearit2, you have PM.

        Hee....u r so resourceful hor...even noe whr to look for me.... I have replied u. πŸ˜‰

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          cantbearit2
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          janet_lee88:
          Hi cantbearit2,

          I wonder how long this affiliation thing will stay...sure hope and pray hard πŸ™ πŸ™ the COP won't go to a level as good as not having any...then I will cry 😒

          This school is not supposed to be very academic but teachers are pretty ON. I can't rest on my laurels even though I thought I could.
          I was actually hoping DD can get into an affiliated sch but we have no connections watsoever lor.... 😒 IJ TP was 1 consideration but dun stand a chance cos dun live within 2 km lor.

          Dun worry for now. Tink it shld b alrite. PLMGS is oso trying to impose a COP 4 their affiliated Pri sch students. But fr wat i noe, it's pretty reasonable wif affiliation (ard 200 i tink).

          If yur DD is gd in arts or music, prob can still use it to go into IJ TP's music or art elective prog. πŸ˜‰

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            cantbearit2
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            buds:
            http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html Errr... hello? Issit safe for buds to come out and play now?


            Whatever it is, i surrender first hor.. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html

            I was spoilt for choice on where to mark my 9000th post but since now
            the coast here a bit clear, i ehekhemm.. decided that after weighing the
            pros and cons... http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html, i will mark it in this post with an extensive sharing, so pleeeze bear with me. :oops:

            Honestly, i thought discussing General Election issues were already heated
            enough, but phew... it was kinda hot in here when it started so i kinda errr..
            chickened out for awhile... well, knowing the low profile me... πŸ˜‰... and
            will now get my chicken in. :lol: I'm on the fence with this never-ending issue
            with our ministry proposed style of teaching... http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html but am going to offer some of my personal sharings
            based on how our education system fared for my children & I since its implementation... with my not so powderful England. πŸ˜‰

            TEACH LESS, LEARN MORE

            \"TLLM would mean less dependence on rote learning, repetitive tests
            and a β€˜one size fits all’ type of instruction, and more on experiential
            discovery, engaged learning, differentiated teaching, the learning of life-
            long skills, and the building of character through innovative and effective
            teaching approaches and strategies.\"


            The above is taken from the official website marking the http://www.moe.gov.sg/about/yearbooks/2005/teach.html.

            For as long as i could remember, parents here have been complaining of
            the many assessments and tests and more tests on top the rote styled
            learning of yesteryears.. Hence upon the many feedbacks and research
            done by MOE, it finally chop to endorse the Teach Less, Learn More method
            in schools. When it was first piloted however, not all schools started this
            method at the same time... good in a way cause the method can be refined
            further as it went along. As with any new programmes, new teachers, new
            baby (etc)... it takes time for the new idea to sink in with the children, their
            parents (us) and definitely even with the teaching personnel. It's akin to an
            instance where the Teach Less part was married off with the Learn More.
            As with any marriage, again, it takes time to reach the stage where things
            hit off & slowly move into auto pilot mode. The method was cynically viewed
            as we all know how teaching in schools have always been rote learning =
            sit-down-face-whiteboard-listen-to-teacher kinda learning... so how in the
            world would a teacher even begin to fathom the idea of teaching less of the
            required curriculum within the same time frame?

            Teaching Less

            As per what the website indicated... Teach Less, Learn More is about teaching
            better, to engage our learners and prepare them for life, rather than teaching more,
            for tests and examinations.

            Now, how do teachers go around teaching less to begin with and yet complete
            the curriculum proper? How to ensure there's quality teaching as opposed to the
            then quantity teaching which equates to long draggy periods of lecture mode?
            The answer is, the teachers themselves gotta learn more... for
            that is the only way to approach the method imposed on them as
            constructive as possible.

            In view of this change, teachers supposedly go for training to facilitate this
            new idea of teaching the syllabus. I like to add that i see this idea pumped
            more into the lower primary in the beginning.. Teaching less to engage our
            new learners at P1/P2 levels does offer a holistic dimension that aimed to
            benefit children of all the different types of learning abilities, pre-taught
            knowledge, family backgrounds (etc). The modes of assessment go beyond
            pen and paper based exams, which in reality bodes well for majority of the
            average learners within our communities who can afford only basic
            kindergarten education, which at this juncture is still not compulsory but...
            definitely highly encouraged.

            What's different for learners at this stage? My DD2 came into this method
            the moment she entered her little feet to formal primary education and i
            for one tried to look at this new idea positively & was drawn into this new
            idea with teachers who must've ploughed thru' sleepless nites preparing
            their lessons... for teaching less only means they have waaaayy more to
            prepare to ensure that the young learners are indeed engaged.

            The teachers in the school (neighbourhood sch by the way)... :love: lovingly
            prepared a whole semester of events and activities for the children and
            guess what...? Also for the parents! Yes, you didn't hear me or rather
            read me wrongly... parents are given more opportunities to learn together
            with our children on the different areas of learning and assessments and
            were advised on the rubrics at the beginning of the first term. Parents were
            given more opportunities to work hand in hand with the children, the school
            and the teachers with alternative teaching modes. Children got to work in
            groups, in pairs and also individually which in a nutshell allowed children
            to work on leadership skills, interaction skills, public speaking skills and
            also skills that enable them to think out of the box... which many parents
            have emphasized our local children lack due to the then labeled as the
            stifling-textbook-manner of teaching children. Cookie cutter mode some
            said. This opening up to parents was definitely a new thing for us and a
            big hit with most parents as schools are usually seen as a closed-door
            instituition. With Teach Less parents also get to learn more about what's
            being carried out in our children's classes & how they are being assessed.

            Show & Tell... Project Work... Charity Work... Exhibitions... IT Learning...
            Field Trips/Learning Journeys... Class Presentations... Stage Performances..
            The above were a few of the new ideas my child and i have enjoyed with
            this Teach Less method in place. Did it meet our expectations? In our
            opinion, YES! My child loved school... looked forward going to school and
            absorbed all the fun ideas without so much as having to study for testing..
            but study to really learn... and not just classroom textbook based lessons
            but also out of classroom experiences that they truly enjoyed. Children got
            to work in the garden for early science exposure, went to the Science Ctr
            for follow-up and submitted a group project for class presentation and
            finally showcased their ideas with a mini exhibition. Yes... my little girl
            actually did all that. And learnt so much from the experiences... This
            would not have been possible if the education system kept to its old
            school whiteboard-based learning where the teachers are always rushing
            to finish the curriculum and pile children with endless homeworks that they
            in turn have to mark, which adds to their list of to-dos as well.

            For Language, children got to visit the library more often as classes take
            turns to sit down and watch drama skits... participate in drama classes...
            listen to story-tellers... exposed to more books and yes get opportunities
            to tell about the books they read (the teachers introduce books appropriate
            for their level) and also get to rate how interesting the books are based on
            their genre of interest. Funny books and retold stories got the most thumbs
            up, so i've heard. πŸ˜‰ Parents enjoyed Reading Night where all of us
            came with our books and picnic mats and snacks... crowded the school
            hall to listen to engaging story-tellers from the National Library... be
            awestruck by children performances and choral reading based on the
            Stellar books covered for the term... a lotta work i tell you, but... our
            children learn. Grammar contents were covered by the given Stellar
            worksheets and more from teacher-prepared materials that encompassed
            the specific grammar rules that was to be covered in the curriculum plan
            handed out to parents during the first term.

            Children were assessed based on classroom participation, how they behave,
            how they helped peers and teachers alike, how they understood what was
            delivered in and outside of the classroom, topical papers based on monthly
            theme/book (etc... etc...) too many to name but in short everyone gets to
            shine and excel in the attributes-variant where it isn't just paper based..
            But yes... Teachers are still expected to cover the curriculum proper ie.
            textbooks & activity/workbooks on top of all those fun activities.

            Gotta end this sharing here for now for i gotta fetch my DD1 from supp
            class which is another fun extra the sch is providing... will share more
            if my sharings can provide the different perspective to what TLLM has
            to offer.

            To end this sharing, my girls and i evaluated the method... and the end
            result? Did they really learn more?

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            Happy to note, i got a resounding YESSSS!

            PS : As with any human-reliant industry... it is with profound knowledge
            that we all know \"the teacher\" plays a huuuuge part in ensuring this
            TLLM method to be a successful one. While there are still way too
            many teachers who do indeed go bo-chap on us and the children
            (yes, i have experience and can really shame the teacher if i
            really want to.. :x) it's only fair that we give due credit to the
            ones who truly truly truly and relentlessly make it work... and
            in my case... it worked big time! :celebrate:
            :goodpost: u have captured the essence of the teach less, learn more concept. Unfortunately in tis human dependent industry, not all teachers (in fact, given the no. of warnings i got fr my frenz, rarely heard of teachers who can) R able to deliver it like your DD's. 😞

            (if you say your England not powderful, u may juz instill fear in parents like me leh wif geniune Singlish lor.....U inspire so many parents in KSP here leh)

            BTW, :congrats: buds on your promotion !!!! :lol:

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              cantbearit2
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              tamarind:

              buds,
              That school is definitely not just any neighbourhood school, it is a \"premium\" neighbourhood school. Most neighbourhood schools do not have any top 10 PSLE scorers.

              My kids' neighbourhood school only produced 1 top 10 PSLE scorer in 10 years. It is the top choice in my area, because none of the other primary schools have produced any top scorer in their entire history.

              My kids' school do have some activities that you mentioned. However, recently I heard one parent complaining that her girl was made to do Grammar workbook from page 20+ to 90+ in one day 😞 Quite sad. My girl also encountered teachers who made the whole class write the exact same set of words for a few days just before SA1. I think it really depends on the teacher.

              Whatever methodology it is that MOE is trying to implement, if they don't have proper control over how teachers teach, it is still quite useless.
              haha....tis thread has attracted 2 heavyweights. 1st there was Buds, then now come Tamarind. Hee.... :lol:

              Thks ladies, for inspiring me wif presch teachings. :thankyou:

              Back to our topic. My DD is still having her honeymoon period. I juz hope wif all tis info, we can better prepare her. πŸ˜‰

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                buds
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                tamarind:
                [quote] Neighbourhood schools have been the underdog performers of late and my girls' old school produced top ten psle scorers a coupla times too.

                buds,
                That school is definitely not just any neighbourhood school, it is a \"premium\" neighbourhood school. Most neighbourhood schools do not have any top 10 PSLE scorers. [/quote]Premium? Hehee.. because near condo issit? :lol:

                No, seriously. The existence of top psle scorers in neighbourhood schools
                require the encouragement and observation of the school's teaching staff...
                to develop the children's best potentials and also push the children to
                excellence...
                to the Principal herself on how she supports his or her teaching pool with either
                resources or advice plus motivation... to the support the children are getting
                from home on top of the kind of environment the child him or herself sets for
                study days/times.. Some may or may not have outsourced some help but essentially
                the child is motivated by the factors that surrounds the study concept for herself
                and no one else. They have it in themselves the need (and of course also
                the \"want\") to do well. :love:

                My deepest admiration and personal kudos to these children.. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html. They work really super-dee hard to achieve stellar results..

                I'm still fine-tuning the positive environment for my girls to motivate themselves
                to learn... hee... :oops:... and i'm also learning lotsa tips from you guys here to
                further develop what they already have in them. :hugs:
                tamarind:
                [My kids' school do have some activities that you mentioned. However, recently I heard one parent complaining that her girl was made to do Grammar workbook from page 20+ to 90+ in one day 😞 Quite sad. My girl also encountered teachers who made the whole class write the exact same set of words for a few days just before SA1. I think it really depends on the teacher.
                There will be cases of unfortunate incidences whether or not the teacher is
                the bo-chap kind or perhaps under a lotta pressure him/herself to complete
                the tasks before exams.. could also be a matter of time management for
                them or a case of struggling with classroom management where more :rant:
                is done than more learning..

                Effective communication can reduce this. I've had personal experiences with
                this. Teachers may think that children (ooh.. and parents too of course) are
                coping fine with the workload they give. Provide constructive feedback and
                allow them to understand where you are coming from and perhaps reach a
                compromise to ensure a two-way success story. It is possible.. unless of cos
                the teacher isn't literally interested in her job to begin with. I have zero
                tolerance for such teachers and will not count on them to nurture my girls
                when they need nurturing or rather :spank: to wake up their idea! :x In
                this really way off bo-pian case then seriously gotta kao zi ji. 😞
                tamarind:
                [Whatever methodology it is that MOE is trying to implement, if they don't have proper control over how teachers teach, it is still quite useless.
                Very true, tam. That's why it is a success story for us. πŸ˜‰ MOE implements.
                Teachers get training for new implementation and Principal offers umbrella
                radar to motivate her teachers along... anytime they may require assistance.
                I shook the hands of the Principal on my last visit there and told her earnestly
                i was sooo super sad and reluctant to leave her school for she in my opinion
                had successfully geared her team of teachers to teach from the heart and it was
                only possible cause she was there every step of the way for her teachers and
                all her students. In my eyes, she has nurtured a neighbourhood school to become
                like a banded school. She just humbly smiled and said it can't happen if she
                doesn't have supportive parents to support her mission.

                She isn't the stay in office kind of Principal. 1st day we all met her, she said...
                \"If you have something to say, please don't go shoot letter to MOE straight
                away for the smallest issues. I'm always here to listen and let's work together.
                My office is always open for you, you're welcome to come chat if i'm available.
                If we can't meet in person, this is my number... please call me... and i have
                this issue with parents thinking a call from school is usually cham already,
                sure my child got problem... well, don't be surprised if my teachers call you
                just to share how happy they are with your child's work...

                Yes, my teachers don't call up parents only to bear bad news but i encourage
                my teachers to call you even when there's no news.. perhaps just to catch
                up and also to share how your child has progressed and how we can have
                a better parent-teacher partnership... for without you, the parents working
                hand in hand with my teachers and i, we cannot capitalize on the strengths
                of our children and fully boost their potentials.\"

                Lastly to the effect, she added...\"Even if you do call MOE, MOE will still call to inform
                us that you went to them to complain right... so if you need to complain, please
                do come complain to me first and i will personally see to it what i can do... and
                if you think after that i still did not manage to address your concerns and you go
                MOE, i will not hold it against you. But here i am just sharing that we can work
                the kinks out amongst ourselves first instead of making everything a big hooha.\"

                After that speech, you can see parents looking down storing her number as she
                repeated it. πŸ˜‰

                The best Principal i've met to date. Hands down. :udawoman:

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                  cimman
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                  buds:


                  I'm still fine-tuning the positive environment for my girls to motivate themselves
                  to learn... hee... :oops:... and i'm also learning lotsa tips from you guys here to
                  further develop what they already have in them. :hugs:
                  could you share some of the techniques in creating a positive environment for the child to be self motivated ?

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                    janet88
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                    cantbearit2:
                    janet_lee88:

                    Hi cantbearit2,

                    I wonder how long this affiliation thing will stay...sure hope and pray hard πŸ™ πŸ™ the COP won't go to a level as good as not having any...then I will cry 😒

                    This school is not supposed to be very academic but teachers are pretty ON. I can't rest on my laurels even though I thought I could.

                    I was actually hoping DD can get into an affiliated sch but we have no connections watsoever lor.... 😒 IJ TP was 1 consideration but dun stand a chance cos dun live within 2 km lor.

                    If yur DD is gd in arts or music, prob can still use it to go into IJ TP's music or art elective prog. πŸ˜‰

                    Daughter is in IJ TP 10 min drive away. We registered her there bcos son's school is too academic driven and the daddy & mummy here is finding it hard to cope. The other reason is of course for the affiliation.
                    Too early and no point worrying either...just enjoy the IJ TP for the dedicated teachers in the meantime.

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                      QuiteKSMum
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                      buds wrote :[quote]The best Principal i've met to date. Hands down. [/quote]
                      buds, your girls were truly blessed to be in such a sch with such gd P & T. Hope you'll have the same \"luck\" in their current sch... :celebrate:

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                        tamarind
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                        buds:

                        Premium? Hehee.. because near condo issit?

                        No, seriously. The existence of top psle scorers in neighbourhood schools
                        require the encouragement and observation of the school's teaching staff...
                        to develop the children's best potentials and also push the children to
                        excellence...
                        to the Principal herself on how she supports his or her teaching pool with either
                        resources or advice plus motivation... to the support the children are getting
                        from home on top of the kind of environment the child him or herself sets for
                        study days/times.. Some may or may not have outsourced some help but essentially
                        the child is motivated by the factors that surrounds the study concept for herself
                        and no one else. They have it in themselves the need (and of course also
                        the \"want\") to do well.
                        Not necessarily near condo πŸ™‚

                        In addition to what you have mentioned, a very important point is parents who are willing to send their kids to tuition centers, even though the kids are already scoring 90+ marks for every subject. I always see the photo of the girl from my kids' primary school, who scored above 275, hanging prominently outside a tuition center in Jurong Point. She obviously had additional help outside of school.

                        I am more concerned that my kids enjoy the learning process. Learning should never be confined to textbooks or model compositions or assessment books. My P1 boy dislikes assessment books, but he is so happy and motivated to learn a wide range of general knowledge by reading his children's encyclopedia, and he really enjoys reading wonderful children's literature in both English and Chinese. He is exhilarated whenever he successfully builds complicated machines using KNEX on his own. This is what learning should be about, and this is much more interesting than the excruciatingly boring textbooks and assessment books. Everyday when I return home I pray that he does not have homework from school, so that he can spend his time reading good books and playing, which are essential for a happy childhood.

                        You are very fortunate to encounter a such a wonderful principal. One year ago, I remember hearing my kids' principal saying to all the parents that \"We should let kids do less assessment books, and let them read more story books\". However, this year I heard mommies complaining to her about too much homework. The principal is a very nice lady, but looks like she is too nice and does not have enough control over her teachers.

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