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      SAHM_TAN
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      Parents the price for the titles have been reduced, for those thinking about it, now good price. I heartpain looking at the discounted price compared to last year 😢 :lol:


      Now you can buy by set or as individual title but individual title cheaper (when add up all 7 titles)if they are available. I also dunno why individual title cheaper than set. Thot they would want to encourage pple buying the whole set

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        tamarind
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        kabalevsky:

        What I didn't understand was the historical part. It says there is historical meaning to the words \"short\" and \"shoot\" pronounced the opposite way? I was very intrigued. And the other eg too. I can visualise the Chinese character in my head but have no idea the story behind it.

        There is actually a cute story involving Confucius and Buddha about the words 射 and 矮 :

        被误传了五千年的四个汉字
        有一次孔子找如来佛商讨儒学。如来自夸认识天下所有汉字。孔子同他打赌,输了就输一个“啵啵”(即用手指在额上弹一下)。

        孔子就写了这个“射”字。如来说:这是射箭的射字。孔子说:不对。这念“矮”字。一寸的身子当然是矮喽。如来被搞懵了,问,那“矮”字呢?念什么?孔子答道,“矮”字读“射”字。又解释说:矮字一边为矢,矢也,箭者:一边为委,委者,弯也,意即弯弓射箭,当然是“射”字!如来无法反驳,只得认输。

        于是孔子就在如来的额上弹了一个“啵啵”,所以世上的如来塑像上,额头都有一个红红的鼓鼓的小包。

        如来气不过,也想出两个字来考孔子。这次轮到孔子答不上来了,于是如来非常得意地伸出手,中指扣在拇指上,笑眯眯地正欲向孔老夫子的额上弹去,孔子见势不妙,一转身溜了。——我们在大雄宝殿上所见的如来宝像,不正是那个生动的姿态吗?
        如来要考孔子的那个汉字,就是“重”字。
        “重”为千里组成,千里之外谓之“出”。

        而“出”字,为两座山相叠,两山相叠,还不为重吗?
        谁也无法解释这几个字为何弄反了弄错了的千古之谜。
        这样的汉字之趣还有好多,你不妨去找找。
        也许这是今人的附会,也许还是今人的幽默哩。


        Actually, the real reason is as follows. Basically the following section explains how the words evolved from their earliest pictorial forms :

        实际上并不是这么简单:
        有人说有些汉字是造错了,最著名的例子是“寸身”应该是“矮”,“委矢
        ”才是“射”,又如“两山重叠”应是“重”,“千里”才是“出”,等等。这
        些说法我们经常会在报刊上看到。那么,这些字真地造错了吗?

        “射”:这是个象形字,在甲骨文、金文中,是拉弓上矢的象形,原本的写
        法应该是左弓右矢,由于“弓”“身”形状相似,到了篆书,已误写成左身右矢
        。在篆书中“矢”“寸”近似,变成楷书时,又误成左身右寸。可见这是汉字演
        变中的伪变,与造字无关,更与“寸身”的会意无关。

        “矮”:这是个形声字,从矢,委声(矮的古音为“委”)。为什么从矢呢
        ?因为矮者,短人也,“短”从矢,“矮”也跟着从矢。为什么“短”字从矢?
        原来在远古时代,矢(箭)是量长短的工具。

        “出”:这是象形字,与“山”无关,在甲骨文、金文、篆文中是两株草重
        叠的象形,表示“长出”,也有的认为跟“步”类似,是一前一后两个脚步,表
        示走出、前进之意。

        “重”:这是形声字,从壬,东声(“重”的下半部实际上是“东”)。为
        什么从壬?因为“重”的最初含义是厚,“壬”是人在土上,表示厚。

        之所以会误以为某些汉字是造错了字,无非是不熟悉汉字字形的演变,需知
        楷书并非汉字的原始形式,从甲骨文、金文演变到楷书,字形已发生极大的变化
        ,要研究汉字造字,显然不能以楷书为凭;或者是不懂或混淆了六书,把象形字
        当成会意字(如“出”“射”),或把形声字当成会意字(如“重”“矮”)。

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          tamarind
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          For parents who are interested to know more about the 四五快读 books, I have some pictures of the pages in my blog, you can click on the photos to read the words :


          http://tamarindvillage.blogspot.com/2009/12/teaching-chinese-at-home.html

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            Kabby
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            SAHM_TAN:
            Parents the price for the titles have been reduced, for those thinking about it, now good price. I heartpain looking at the discounted price compared to last year 😢 :lol:


            Now you can buy by set or as individual title but individual title cheaper (when add up all 7 titles)if they are available. I also dunno why individual title cheaper than set. Thot they would want to encourage pple buying the whole set
            thanks for the info!

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              Kabby
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              [quote]
              于是孔子就在如来的额上弹了一个“啵啵”,所以世上的如来塑像上,额头都有一个红红的鼓鼓的小包。

              如来气不过,也想出两个字来考孔子。这次轮到孔子答不上来了,于是如来非常得意地伸出手,中指扣在拇指上,笑眯眯地正欲向孔老夫子的额上弹去,孔子见势不妙,一转身溜了。——我们在大雄宝殿上所见的如来宝像,不正是那个生动的姿态吗? [/quote]

              wah!!! :rotflmao:
              this is really funny, really cute! was this in the same book? or did you find this cute reason elsewhere?

              thanks for sharing!!!

              [quote] 之所以会误以为某些汉字是造错了字,无非是不熟悉汉字字形的演变,需知
              楷书并非汉字的原始形式,从甲骨文、金文演变到楷书,字形已发生极大的变化
              ,要研究汉字造字,显然不能以楷书为凭;或者是不懂或混淆了六书,把象形字
              当成会意字(如“出”“射”),或把形声字当成会意字(如“重”“矮”)[/quote]am very enlightened now! :thankyou:

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                SAHM_TAN
                last edited by

                tamarind:
                kabalevsky:


                What I didn't understand was the historical part. It says there is historical meaning to the words \"short\" and \"shoot\" pronounced the opposite way? I was very intrigued. And the other eg too. I can visualise the Chinese character in my head but have no idea the story behind it.


                There is actually a cute story involving Confucius and Buddha about the words 射 and 矮 :

                被误传了五千年的四个汉字
                有一次孔子找如来佛商讨儒学。如来自夸认识天下所有汉字。孔子同他打赌,输了就输一个“啵啵”(即用手指在额上弹一下)。

                孔子就写了这个“射”字。如来说:这是射箭的射字。孔子说:不对。这念“矮”字。一寸的身子当然是矮喽。如来被搞懵了,问,那“矮”字呢?念什么?孔子答道,“矮”字读“射”字。又解释说:矮字一边为矢,矢也,箭者:一边为委,委者,弯也,意即弯弓射箭,当然是“射”字!如来无法反驳,只得认输。

                于是孔子就在如来的额上弹了一个“啵啵”,所以世上的如来塑像上,额头都有一个红红的鼓鼓的小包。

                如来气不过,也想出两个字来考孔子。这次轮到孔子答不上来了,于是如来非常得意地伸出手,中指扣在拇指上,笑眯眯地正欲向孔老夫子的额上弹去,孔子见势不妙,一转身溜了。——我们在大雄宝殿上所见的如来宝像,不正是那个生动的姿态吗?
                如来要考孔子的那个汉字,就是“重”字。
                “重”为千里组成,千里之外谓之“出”。

                而“出”字,为两座山相叠,两山相叠,还不为重吗?
                谁也无法解释这几个字为何弄反了弄错了的千古之谜。
                这样的汉字之趣还有好多,你不妨去找找。
                也许这是今人的附会,也许还是今人的幽默哩。


                Actually, the real reason is as follows. Basically the following section explains how the words evolved from their earliest pictorial forms :

                实际上并不是这么简单:
                有人说有些汉字是造错了,最著名的例子是“寸身”应该是“矮”,“委矢
                ”才是“射”,又如“两山重叠”应是“重”,“千里”才是“出”,等等。这
                些说法我们经常会在报刊上看到。那么,这些字真地造错了吗?

                “射”:这是个象形字,在甲骨文、金文中,是拉弓上矢的象形,原本的写
                法应该是左弓右矢,由于“弓”“身”形状相似,到了篆书,已误写成左身右矢
                。在篆书中“矢”“寸”近似,变成楷书时,又误成左身右寸。可见这是汉字演
                变中的伪变,与造字无关,更与“寸身”的会意无关。

                “矮”:这是个形声字,从矢,委声(矮的古音为“委”)。为什么从矢呢
                ?因为矮者,短人也,“短”从矢,“矮”也跟着从矢。为什么“短”字从矢?
                原来在远古时代,矢(箭)是量长短的工具。

                “出”:这是象形字,与“山”无关,在甲骨文、金文、篆文中是两株草重
                叠的象形,表示“长出”,也有的认为跟“步”类似,是一前一后两个脚步,表
                示走出、前进之意。

                “重”:这是形声字,从壬,东声(“重”的下半部实际上是“东”)。为
                什么从壬?因为“重”的最初含义是厚,“壬”是人在土上,表示厚。

                之所以会误以为某些汉字是造错了字,无非是不熟悉汉字字形的演变,需知
                楷书并非汉字的原始形式,从甲骨文、金文演变到楷书,字形已发生极大的变化
                ,要研究汉字造字,显然不能以楷书为凭;或者是不懂或混淆了六书,把象形字
                当成会意字(如“出”“射”),或把形声字当成会意字(如“重”“矮”)。

                Cute story about the Buddha, the first time I read it, too tired couldn't understand. Reading it again with a clearer mind, finally got the story. Will have a long learning journey with the kids :lol:

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                  tamarind
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                  kabalevsky,

                  This story has been around for many years, it is not told in the book. I googled in Chinese and copied it 😉

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                    Kabby
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                    tamarind:
                    kabalevsky,

                    This story has been around for many years, it is not told in the book. I googled in Chinese and copied it 😉
                    oh ok! i never heard of it before, 😄
                    thanks!

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                      tamarind
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                      kabalevsky:
                      tamarind:

                      kabalevsky,

                      This story has been around for many years, it is not told in the book. I googled in Chinese and copied it 😉

                      oh ok! i never heard of it before, 😄
                      thanks!

                      I remember someone telling me this story when I was a child, I think I am a lot older than you 😉 Later as people become more English educated, this story was not told anymore in Singapore.

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                        poppy15
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                        hi, where can i get the whole set of this books? tia 😄

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