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    2012 PSLE Discussions and Strategy

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      iFruit
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      MOE Hater:
      James Ang:

      Who in P6 this year can solve this 2009 PSLE Maths (5 marks) question? (*Page 72, Q16 in the new PSLE Maths 5 year series.)


      Jim bought some chocolates and gave half of it to Ken. Ken bought some sweets and gave half of it to Jim. Jim ate 12 sweets and Ken ate 18 chocolates. The ratio of Jim's sweets to chocolates became 1 : 7 and the ratio of Ken's sweets to chocolates became 1:4. How many sweets did Ken buy?. (PSLE 2009, 5 marks)

      The model methoid is a pain. just use ratio and basic algebra and there u hv it. I was in P6 last year and i solved that question in 4 minutes munching on popcorn. Most of my friends cud do it too. dun understand the fuss over the question :roll:

      Bravo!! Someone is calling emperor has no clothes!

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        atutor2001
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        I believe MOE has been monitoring the "intelligence" level of each cohort. The degree of difficulty will be set according to their analysis. For example, with such easy papers last year, it is surprising to find the COP of the top schools to be so low. In other years with easy papers, the COP of the top schools had been way above 260s (i.e. top 5% all over 260s). I wonder what the COP of the top schools would be like, had last year’s papers been very difficult.

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          Sun_2010
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          atutor2001:
          I believe MOE has been monitoring the \"intelligence\" level of each cohort.

          Wonder how would they do that?

          There are no cpommon exams for each cohort except PSLE so how will they gauge ? Secondly we know that averages do not tell the whole story...i dont think MOE will go by average performance.

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            atutor2001
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            Sun_2010:

            Wonder how would they do that?

            There are no cpommon exams for each cohort except PSLE so how will they gauge ? Secondly we know that averages do not tell the whole story...i dont think MOE will go by average performance.
            The GEP test at P3 is definitely the first data collection point. Check the prelim papers of P5 carefully, you might notice many similar questions - some schools even use same numbers and scenarios. Can't help believing that a set of questions have been given to schools to chose from when setting questions.

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              jtoh
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              atutor2001:
              Sun_2010:


              Wonder how would they do that?

              There are no cpommon exams for each cohort except PSLE so how will they gauge ? Secondly we know that averages do not tell the whole story...i dont think MOE will go by average performance.

              The GEP test at P3 is definitely the first data collection point. Check the prelim papers of P5 carefully, you might notice many similar questions - some schools even use same numbers and scenarios. Can't help believing that a set of questions have been given to schools to chose from when setting questions.

              P5 prelim papers? Do you mean P6 prelim papers?

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                atutor2001
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                jtoh:
                atutor2001:

                [quote=\"Sun_2010\"]
                Wonder how would they do that?

                There are no cpommon exams for each cohort except PSLE so how will they gauge ? Secondly we know that averages do not tell the whole story...i dont think MOE will go by average performance.

                The GEP test at P3 is definitely the first data collection point. Check the prelim papers of P5 carefully, you might notice many similar questions - some schools even use same numbers and scenarios. Can't help believing that a set of questions have been given to schools to chose from when setting questions.

                P5 prelim papers? Do you mean P6 prelim papers?[/quote]No it is P5 prelim so that they can decide on the level of difficulty to set for the their coming PSLE paper (the following year). If it is P6 prelim, there will be no time for any change as the PSLE papers will have long been printed.

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                  jtoh
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                  atutor2001:
                  jtoh:

                  [quote=\"atutor2001\"]
                  The GEP test at P3 is definitely the first data collection point. Check the prelim papers of P5 carefully, you might notice many similar questions - some schools even use same numbers and scenarios. Can't help believing that a set of questions have been given to schools to chose from when setting questions.

                  P5 prelim papers? Do you mean P6 prelim papers?

                  No it is P5 prelim so that they can decide on the level of difficulty to set for the their coming PSLE paper (the following year). If it is P6 prelim, there will be no time for any change as the PSLE papers will have long been printed.[/quote]Are there P5 prelim papers? Thought it was just the usual SA1 and SA2 papers at P5?

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                    verykiasu2010
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                    jtoh:
                    atutor2001:

                    [quote=\"jtoh\"]
                    P5 prelim papers? Do you mean P6 prelim papers?

                    No it is P5 prelim so that they can decide on the level of difficulty to set for the their coming PSLE paper (the following year). If it is P6 prelim, there will be no time for any change as the PSLE papers will have long been printed.

                    Are there P5 prelim papers? Thought it was just the usual SA1 and SA2 papers at P5?[/quote]may be that one not Singapore school system ?

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                      James Ang
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                      A good and rigorous practice for P5/P6 level students is imperative to prepare them well for PSLE later on, eg in the new Casco 5A book, page 340, Q. 59 shows a commonly tested question type on ratio topic. I estimate that at most, fewer than 1 in 3 PSLE students can solve this type of Maths question even though they have learnt it in school, from books or elsewhere.



                      Sandra had some red and pink beads in the ratio 3:2. After she bought another 9 red beads and 36 pink beads, the ratio became 6:7. How many beads did Sandra have altogether at first?

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                        starlight1968sg
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                        James Ang:
                        Sandra had some red and pink beads in the ratio 3:2. After she bought another 9 red beads and 36 pink beads, the ratio became 6:7. How many beads did Sandra have altogether at first?

                        At the back of my mind, I am always curious what is the real purpose behind for testing kids on such questions.
                        :x

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