All About GEP
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verykiasu2010:
I thought they take in 4000 kids for Round 1 and about 500 for round 2.The top 5 % of the 1st round GEP test goes into the 2nd round
Out of those in the second round, about 1/5 will make it to be the selected GEP students, hence the GEP cohort is about 1% of the overall cohort
Considering a cohort of 40,000 kids each year .. Round 1 is 10% and Round 2 is 1% -
Trapwithin:
may be you are right, 10% of round 1 ... but there is something about the the 5%
I thought they take in 4000 kids for Round 1 and about 500 for round 2.verykiasu2010:
The top 5 % of the 1st round GEP test goes into the 2nd round
Out of those in the second round, about 1/5 will make it to be the selected GEP students, hence the GEP cohort is about 1% of the overall cohort
Considering a cohort of 40,000 kids each year .. Round 1 is 10% and Round 2 is 1% -
wwcookie:
The Singapore GEP has always claim that the selection is not an IQ Test.Sorry, just sidetrack a bit..
I do know of some Mensan children who were not selected for the program. Why?? If they are Mensa members, they must be intellectually 'gifted', no? Isn't the GEP program catered for such children?
I feel the GEP selection process has some major flaws:
1. Everything hinges on the child's performance on the screening and selection test days.
2. Some intellectually 'gifted' children would have started underachieving by the time they sit for the test in P3, as they would have been subjected to 3 years of unchallenging lessons, esp so if they are not in the 'best' classes. Hence, they will not do well in the tests when MOE comes around to identify them.
3. By making the tests known, some kiasu parents will be tempted to prepare their children for the tests, and some of these children might actually get in, and suffer. And deprive some other children whom the program is really catered for, a place in the program.
So they will not sleect based on IQ.
The purpose of GEP is to train future leaders for Singapore .. I think
So the ability to understand and solve problem is pretty important.
That's why Social Studies is 5th subject in GEP and they will have to pass it. -
AppleCrumble:
Correct me if I am wrong.Would like to ask for parents' opinions on an issue related to GEP, a hot topic now since now is the time for GEP screening and selection tests.
As most of you are aware, MOE is implementing steps to give priority to Singaporean citizens (e.g. more balloting chance for P1 school registration, school fees differentiation between SCs and PRs). Am just wondering if this should be extended to the GEP too. This way, more Singaporean kids will benefit from this program.
:?
But I do not think non Singaproean/PR can join this program. -
Trapwithin:
Not sure about foreigners, but PRs are also entitled to join this program.
Correct me if I am wrong.AppleCrumble:
Would like to ask for parents' opinions on an issue related to GEP, a hot topic now since now is the time for GEP screening and selection tests.
As most of you are aware, MOE is implementing steps to give priority to Singaporean citizens (e.g. more balloting chance for P1 school registration, school fees differentiation between SCs and PRs). Am just wondering if this should be extended to the GEP too. This way, more Singaporean kids will benefit from this program.
:?
But I do not think non Singaproean/PR can join this program. -
Trapwithin:
Hhmm... there are quite a few GEP kids who were from China or whose parents were from China, Philippines etc. Not sure if they are already PRs or citizens though.
Correct me if I am wrong.AppleCrumble:
Would like to ask for parents' opinions on an issue related to GEP, a hot topic now since now is the time for GEP screening and selection tests.
As most of you are aware, MOE is implementing steps to give priority to Singaporean citizens (e.g. more balloting chance for P1 school registration, school fees differentiation between SCs and PRs). Am just wondering if this should be extended to the GEP too. This way, more Singaporean kids will benefit from this program.
:?
But I do not think non Singaproean/PR can join this program. -
jtoh:
Hhmm... there are quite a few GEP kids who were from China or whose parents were from China, Philippines etc. Not sure if they are already PRs or citizens though.[/quote]I have a few China colleagues (PRs) whose P3 kids (also PRs) are qualfied for the 2nd round. Same for DS's classmates, mostly from China but are PRs. So that means they will also be entitled to take the GEP program if they managed to pass the 2nd round, right?
Correct me if I am wrong.Trapwithin:
[quote=\"AppleCrumble\"]Would like to ask for parents' opinions on an issue related to GEP, a hot topic now since now is the time for GEP screening and selection tests.
As most of you are aware, MOE is implementing steps to give priority to Singaporean citizens (e.g. more balloting chance for P1 school registration, school fees differentiation between SCs and PRs). Am just wondering if this should be extended to the GEP too. This way, more Singaporean kids will benefit from this program.
:?
But I do not think non Singaproean/PR can join this program. -
verykiasu2010:
may be you are right, 10% of round 1 ... but there is something about the the 5%[/quote]I think Trapwithin is right. The numbers are from MOE. Verykiasu, where do you get your info from when you posted?
I thought they take in 4000 kids for Round 1 and about 500 for round 2.Trapwithin:
[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]The top 5 % of the 1st round GEP test goes into the 2nd round
Out of those in the second round, about 1/5 will make it to be the selected GEP students, hence the GEP cohort is about 1% of the overall cohort
Considering a cohort of 40,000 kids each year .. Round 1 is 10% and Round 2 is 1% -
lwm99:
I think Trapwithin is right. The numbers are from MOE. Verykiasu, where do you get your info from when you posted?[/quote]The numbers were revised recently. Prior to 2008, the number making it to Round 2 was 3,000. Which makes it about 7%, depending on the size of the cohort that year. Of that, about 500 make it through to GEP.
may be you are right, 10% of round 1 ... but there is something about the the 5%verykiasu2010:
[quote=\"Trapwithin\"]
I thought they take in 4000 kids for Round 1 and about 500 for round 2.
Considering a cohort of 40,000 kids each year .. Round 1 is 10% and Round 2 is 1%
In the last couple of years they've increased the number making it to the second round to about 4000. -
jtoh:
Just wondering why the numbers are increasing? Afterall only around 500 students will eventually make it for the GEP program right?
The numbers were revised recently. Prior to 2008, the number making it to Round 2 was 3,000. Which makes it about 7%, depending on the size of the cohort that year. Of that, about 500 make it through to GEP.
In the last couple of years they've increased the number making it to the second round to about 4000.
Am also wondering why the need for the screening test in the first place? Why not make the students take the 2nd test directly and eliminate the hassle of the screening test? Just my own thoughts coz it seems that every P3 kid I know seems to be qualified for the 2nd round :?
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