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    • bbbayB Offline
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      Hi parents


      My little perspective on readings:

      It is a good habit. Some read to relax. Some read to gain knowledge. Our educations are a lot based on readings. There is a saying: we can read all books in the world on swimming, be very knowledgeable about it. Can debate well on this subject. But if we don’t dip ourself even once into the pool to practice it, we still can’t swim when our kampong flood. If we read and practice sometimes, we can swim for leisure. If we want to be Olympic champion, we must practice and practice, for years.

      For my DCs, I suppose when they are older, I will share with them, after reading , follow by practicing the subject diligently. Then they will have true mastery over the subject, if mastery is what they want. If they just want to stay cool in the pool when Singapore get too hot, I will tell them, have fun!!!

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      • skiiS Offline
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        ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2051149\" time=\"1639035929\" user_id=\"3:

        Err... this is pretty deep... not sure if I can understand what you are saying... 😂
        that means we are the older folks la (not younger 30+ year old type of parents)

        Example: from age 1 to 15, where got computer? (one)
        free time is go play block catching


        About the Steve Chia's programme - during that show, he interviewed someone from KSP regarding P1 registration.

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        • ChiefKiasuC Offline
          ChiefKiasu
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          skii\" post_id=\"2051159\" time=\"1639040961\" user_id=\"82603:

          that means we are the older folks la (not younger 30+ year old type of parents)

          Example: from age 1 to 15, where got computer? (one)
          free time is go play block catching
          Oh. Where got age 15. My first encounter with an Apple 2 (actually it was a clone which is called Acorn or something) was in Secondary 1. I was 13 then. It was in the top floor of the old MPH building. My friend, who was in the computer club, went up to it and typed:
          100 print \"Hello\"
          200 goto 100
          and then RUN.
          I was awed and instantly hooked. The computer speaks!

          50 years later... I still can't forget that love at first sight. I no longer need to worry about cutting up dead cockroaches just to become a doctor! Yay! 😂

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          • AHsDadA Offline
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            revils_ling\" post_id=\"2051137\" time=\"1639034549\" user_id=\"136480:

            Based on what my DS is reading now, and he is also a fan of HP series books, u can consider looking at books by Tom Fletcher. No need to censor becoz the content is still tween-friendly for sure. 😊
            Nice. Thanks! I have been guilty (lazy) of just letting my p3 read same books as my p6. (Eg Marie Lu, Brigid Kemmerer, Colleen Oakes, Lisa Graff etc).. Good to read more light-hearted and fun stuff

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            • Liew Nga WingL Offline
              Liew Nga Wing
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              bbbay\" post_id=\"2051150\" time=\"1639036276\" user_id=\"175278:

              Hi parents

              My little perspective on readings:

              It is a good habit. Some read to relax. Some read to gain knowledge. Our educations are a lot based on readings. There is a saying: we can read all books in the world on swimming, be very knowledgeable about it. Can debate well on this subject. But if we don’t dip ourself even once into the pool to practice it, we still can’t swim when our kampong flood. If we read and practice sometimes, we can swim for leisure. If we want to be Olympic champion, we must practice and practice, for years.

              For my DCs, I suppose when they are older, I will share with them, after reading , follow by practicing the subject diligently. Then they will have true mastery over the subject, if mastery is what they want. If they just want to stay cool in the pool when Singapore get too hot, I will tell them, have fun!!!
              I can summarise up what you said in 8 Chinese Words. 活学活用 (Learn and apply) and 纸上谈兵 (Talk on paper). This is the charming of Chinese Language.

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              • revils_lingR Offline
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                AHsDad\" post_id=\"2051169\" time=\"1639049178\" user_id=\"172457:

                Nice. Thanks! I have been guilty (lazy) of just letting my p3 read same books as my p6. (Eg Marie Lu, Brigid Kemmerer, Colleen Oakes, Lisa Graff etc).. Good to read more light-hearted and fun stuff
                No problem. With 2 avid readers to satisfy, I'm sure u're more well versed than me in terms of the different authors out there. I just need to focus on 1 kid and it's mostly driving me crazy 😜

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                • bbbayB Offline
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                  Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2051171\" time=\"1639051362\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2051171 time=1639051362 user_id=195250]
                  I can summarise up what you said in 8 Chinese Words. 活学活用 (Learn and apply) and 纸上谈兵 (Talk on paper). This is the charming of Chinese Language.[/quote]
                  There is this movie “Good Will Hunting”, about a untameable delinquent but genius young man, finally meet his match in a worldly professor. This was what the professor said to that young man in the movie:

                  “Michelangelo? You know a lot about him. Life’s work, political aspirations. Him and the pope. Sexual orientation. The whole works, right? I bet you can’t tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling. Seeing that. If I ask you about women, you’ll probably give me a syllabus of your personal favorites. You may have even been laid a few times. But you can’t tell me what it feels like to wake up next to a woman and feel truly happy. You’re a tough kid. I ask you about war, you’d probably throw Shakespeare at me, right? …… But you’ve never been near one. You’ve never held your best friend’s head in your lap and watch him gasp his last breath, lookin’ to you for help. If I asked you about love, you’d probably quote me a sonnet, but you’ve never looked at a woman and been totally vulnerable…… Feelin’ like God put an angel on Earth just for you, who could rescue you from the depths of hell. And you wouldn’t know what it’s like to be her angel, to have that love for her be there forever. Through anything. Through cancer. And you wouldn’t know about sleepin’ sittin’ up in a hospital room for two months, holding her hand, because the doctors could see in your eyes — that the terms ‘visiting hours’ don’t apply to you. You don’t know about real loss, ’cause that only occurs when you love something more than you love yourself. I doubt you’ve ever dared to love anybody that much.”

                  Ok, maybe these stuffs are dramatised and too distance for our DCs. But these are good examples on difference between world in books and living world.

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                  • ChiefKiasuC Offline
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                    bbbay\" post_id=\"2051173\" time=\"1639054053\" user_id=\"175278:

                    There is this movie “Good Will Hunting”, about a untameable delinquent but genius young man, finally meet his match in a worldly professor. This was what the professor said to that young man in the movie:
                    ...
                    Good Will Hunting... one of the all time favorite movies that I've watched again and again (no more read again and again 😂 ).

                    And you just quoted one of the most pivotal scenes in the movie. It's a pretty poignant scene, and particularly relevant to the parents of \"geniuses\" in this thread. What it is saying is that no matter how fast a person computes or how much he can absorb from his readings, nothing beats the actual experience we have all gone through. It's really important that your child goes through the real experience rather than just by reading, so that he can commiserate and really understand why we do the things we do.

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                    • Liew Nga WingL Offline
                      Liew Nga Wing
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                      Let me a bit off topic here. In real life, things may not be working out so perfectly as in the movie.


                      Last night, I bumped into a friend at Jurong East MRT. He was a "gifted" kid and has graduated as the Master of Mathematics from NUS. He is so intelligent that he always wins during our boardgames events as he can calculate all possibilities of winning the games by every move.

                      But the problem is - he doesn’t know how to get along with people and he usually stands firm on his own beliefs and never care how other feel. Finally he has argued with people in different boardgames groups until no one want to play with him. I had tried my best to bring him out to meet my friends for eating and boardgames events before the pandemic but I gave him up at last because he made everyone angry with him.

                      He told me he is now working as a private Mathematics tutor for secondary school students and he cannot earn much from it. I asked him why not he get a full time job and he said he cannot work with people.

                      There is no professor and no psychiatric counselor to help him as in the movie.

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                      • bbbayB Offline
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                        Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2051182\" time=\"1639062156\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2051182 time=1639062156 user_id=195250]
                        Let me a bit off topic here. In real life, things may not be working out so perfectly as in the movie.

                        Last night, I bumped into a friend at Jurong East MRT. He was a \"gifted\" kid and has graduated as the Master of Mathematics from NUS. He is so intelligent that he always wins during our boardgames events as he can calculate all possibilities of winning the games by every move.

                        But the problem is - he doesn't know how to get along with people and he usually stands firm on his own beliefs and never care how other feel. Finally he has argued with people in different boardgames groups until no one want to play with him. I had tried my best to bring him out to meet my friends for eating and boardgames events before the pandemic but I gave him up at last because he made everyone angry with him.

                        He told me he is now working as a private Mathematics tutor for secondary school students and he cannot earn much from it. I asked him why not he get a full time job and he said he cannot work with people.

                        There is no professor and no psychiatric counselor to help him as in the movie.[/quote]
                        “A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

                        Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, “Jump in, I can save you.”

                        The stranded fellow shouted back, “No, it’s OK, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me.”

                        So the rowboat went on.

                        Then a motorboat follow by a helicopter came by. “The fellows in the motorboat/helicopter shouted the same, “Jump in, I can save you.”

                        To this the stranded man said, “No thanks, I’m praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith.”

                        Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, “I had faith in you but you didn’t save me, you let me drown. I don’t understand why!”

                        To this God replied, “I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?””

                        My view is, movie often dramatise, for entertainment. We can take it as an analogy to our daily equivalents . Just like the story above. Maybe your mathematician friend is that fellow, you the rowboat, and this KSP forum the helicopter?

                        Maybe your mathematician friend need to be exposed to other perspective not found in game theory first, and exposures to more people, later?

                        You are very kind too 😎

                        Out of curiosity, What were the quarreling about
                        between your math friend and the others?

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