All About GEP
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sky minecrafter\" post_id=\"2051275\" time=\"1639118127\" user_id=\"130531:[quote=\"sky minecrafter\" post_id=2051275 time=1639118127 user_id=130531]
This is really interesting and informative. Thank you so much!
Hello gomboc, all our form classes have a mixture of mainstreamers with different abilities, as well as (~8) GEPpers. It is a pullout system correct - for us, the entire cohort is banded according to subject strengths so Everyone (mainstream + GEP) moves from classroom to classroom (with all belongings; lockers are available if required), & will get used to it. GEP classes remain small in size ~25 for core curriculum (the 2 GEP classrooms for EMS+ SS are on the ground floor), except for form classes (art & craft, pe, music...) ~35[/quote] -
sky minecrafter\" post_id=\"2051275\" time=\"1639118127\" user_id=\"130531:[quote=\"sky minecrafter\" post_id=2051275 time=1639118127 user_id=130531]
Thank u sky minecrafter for sharing this info. As my child is currently in a non-SAP school that doesn't offer HCL until P5, I was initially unsure how he would do if he takes on HCL in P4 in a SAP school. But I've just consulted with his P3 CL teacher and she has been very encouraging and reassuring towards the idea of him possibly moving into a SAP school with his current CL standard. I suppose if my child is also willing to give it a go, we'll let him take on HCL in P4 GEP whichever school he chooses to join. Based on what I've heard today, he should still have abit of buffer for him to settle into HCL next year. 🤞😅
Hi revils_ling, my child was already a student in Nhps when he was selected for the GEP program (eons ago). Since we are SAP, it is Compulsory for all GEP students to offer HCL, with the option (for geppers) to drop Only in P6
For our P3 HCL children to twin with GEPpers, they often score an overall HCL grade of at least 85% (averages ~30 mainstreamers). These twinning HCL classes are considered enriched HCL, & are different from the usual HCL classes
Students offering HCL make up ~70% of the P6 cohort, so in the 2 GEP classes perhaps ~5 (?) GEPpers will by P6 choose to offer CL instead [/quote] -
From what I read / see so far, every gep center has different number of mix form class. (Pull out class)
No good no bad. Just different ways of doing the same intended task. -
Does anyone know, usually for the mixed form class, is the form teacher their mainstream teacher or one of their gep subject teachers? Also do they stay in the same mixed form class for P4-6?
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Twinkiestars\" post_id=\"2051344\" time=\"1639146479\" user_id=\"97569:
I saw in the TaoNan video today that the GEP kids will have FTGP with the mainstream class, so form teacher should be their mainstream class teacher. At least that's the case for TaoNan, since not every of the 9 GEP schools had mentioned it in their videos.
Does anyone know, usually for the mixed form class, is the form teacher their mainstream teacher or one of their gep subject teachers? Also do they stay in the same mixed form class for P4-6? -
Thank you everyone for your sharing . I went for the GEP briefing today . Many parents asked what if their kid cannot adjust to GEP and if the kid returns to mainstream , can kid return to the original school. Response was there is hardly any kid who has dropped out and so no direct response to the “what if “.
For sharing , I asked TLL on whether their regular classes ( not the special GEP course ) could have contributed to my kid passing the GEP selection test . The verbal response was that they believe their worksheets created by the curriculum team is tougher than the usual standard and would have introduced the GEP type questions somewhat .
Congrats to all the kids who have been invited to join the GEP program and all the best to those who are accepting the GEP invitation. For us, we are still considering and will respect our girl’s decision if she declines. It is important for our kids to be happily learning and not too stressed out . -
gomboc\" post_id=\"2051242\" time=\"1639107871\" user_id=\"196277:
My older boy is in CHS. In P4 2021, there are 3 mixed form classes. Each of these classes has 30 students comprising 18 GEP and 12 mainstream students. During English, Math, Science, Social Study, students are split into their \"teaching group\" classes: 2xGEP and 1xmainstream group class. There are a lot of movements, my son said it was messy at the beginning, but as everyone gets used to it, it becomes smooth. The mixed form classes and the teaching group classes are located on the same level, one next to another.
Hi everyone, I'm a newbie here and was prompted to join KSP after this morning's GEP briefing when I realised that I had more questions than answers. I was hoping to get some insights from other parents here on these specific issues:
1. There was a lot of emphasis during the briefing on making \"rational choices\" in terms of school selection, i.e. they reiterated a number of times that they would accommodate preferences if they were \"rational\". However, GEB's notion of \"rationality\" seems to be tied in primarily with home-school distance. If my kid is deeply invested/talented in a particular CCA and it's only offered in one GEP school that isn't the closest in proximity to our home, I think it's pretty rational to try for that school, because it would not only allow for a well-rounded educational experience, but would also save us a lot of time e.g. when it comes to reducing involvement in external training. Is there any way they would take that into consideration for placement?
2. Mixed form classes - how does this work in practice? Is it like a pull-out system where the kids start the day in the mixed form class and then get pulled out at various intervals for GEP activities? What are the logistics of this e.g. moving to different classrooms constantly throughout the day? I had the impression that GEP classes would be smaller (eg 20+ kids) to allow for specific hands-on programmes as well as for deeper levels of discussion and interaction. Would mixed classes be regular size?
3. I have a younger child who starts P1 in 2022. I’m concerned about them being in different schools (both due to logistics and attachment issues). I know the official party line is that there’s no guarantee of a transfer for the sibling, but just anecdotally does anyone have positive experiences with this? And if I should have any expectations either way, what is a reasonable time frame within which I should receive news, or is it generally an indefinite wait? Obviously things are a bit more complicated this year because of the various gridlocks during the process.
Really appreciate any advice that anyone might have.
From our experience trying Sibling Transfer, we failed 2 years in a row... The school's response is simply no vacancy, so our younger son is always on waiting list. I guess the only way to transfer him is by going into GEP by himself...
Hope I can answer some of your questions. -
angga888\" post_id=\"2051369\" time=\"1639174992\" user_id=\"50558:
Thanks so much, that gives me more clarity on these issues for sure! I really do wish they would consider reserving some spots for siblings. It's almost punitive for families whose logistical burden is doubled just for choosing to place their kids in a more suitable program.
My older boy is in CHS. In P4 2021, there are 3 mixed form classes. Each of these classes has 30 students comprising 18 GEP and 12 mainstream students. During English, Math, Science, Social Study, students are split into their \"teaching group\" classes: 2xGEP and 1xmainstream group class. There are a lot of movements, my son said it was messy at the beginning, but as everyone gets used to it, it becomes smooth. The mixed form classes and the teaching group classes are located on the same level, one next to another.
From our experience trying Sibling Transfer, we failed 2 years in a row... The school's response is simply no vacancy, so our younger son is always on waiting list. I guess the only way to transfer him is by going into GEP by himself...
Hope I can answer some of your questions. -
Saw this on MOE site regarding GEP:
“Test preparation activities are not encouraged as these could inflate the scores, which may then not reflect your child’s actual potential.
Students who are not ready to handle the rigour and demands of the GEP will:
Struggle to cope with the enriched curriculum.
Experience stress that could impact their self-esteem and cause them to lose confidence.”
I suppose the selection is to identify natural ability. If selected naturally, we can accept the child has that some natural ability. -
gomboc\" post_id=\"2051371\" time=\"1639183098\" user_id=\"196277:
Siblings transfer is a privilege, not a given. There are sch bus options too. I see no difference in an in-coming gepper looking for a transfer vacancy vs a student staying nearby looking for a transfer cos was balloted out in p1 registration years earlier. It is already a privilege to get into a program suitable for the kid, should parents be asking for more priorities?
Thanks so much, that gives me more clarity on these issues for sure! I really do wish they would consider reserving some spots for siblings. It's almost punitive for families whose logistical burden is doubled just for choosing to place their kids in a more suitable program.
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