Is GEP really necessary?

[verykiasu2010]

Sun_2010:

LJ has good support of his sec school, so how come it becomes MOE's failure I dont see. Yes he was not talent spotted early on but once his calibre was known , he has been provided with good support.

the gripe here is not the support from NUSH, but before he enters NUSH

[verykiasu2010]

ksi:

Sun_2010:

LJ has good support of his sec school, so how come it becomes MOE's failure I dont see. Yes he was not talent spotted early on but once his calibre was known , he has been provided with good support.

Precisely Sun! LJ is a good example of not having to go thru the pain of doing English the GEP way and yet getting a good support in other ways to pursue his passion. I thought he was a positive example of our education support system but somehow he has been construed and made to look as a negative example for GEP screening failure. *thud* :faint:

poor LJ....kena left and right

[Chenonceau]

ruohoo97:

ksi:

[quote=\"Sun_2010\"]

LJ has good support of his sec school, so how come it becomes MOE's failure I dont see. Yes he was not talent spotted early on but once his calibre was known , he has been provided with good support.

Precisely Sun! LJ is a good example of not having to go thru the pain of doing English the GEP way and yet getting a good support in other ways to pursue his passion. I thought he was a positive example of our education support system but somehow he has been construed and made to look as a negative example for GEP screening failure. *thud* :faint:

It is so interesting, the opposite sites quote the same example to support their arguments! [/quote]Rightly or wrongly... I had assumed that Lim Jeck owed his achievements to his parents. Why would the MOE claim credit for LJ's achievements in mainstream? In primary school, in a class of between 40 to 44, I doubt he was much better taught Math than others. In mainstream, would he have achieved what he did to get into NUSH WITHOUT mathematician parents?

When students do poorly in mainstream, it is the parents' fault. When students shine in mainstream, the system is robust?

:?

[verykiasu2010]

ruohoo97:

Sadly, we don't have too many Da vinci today. I think our human being is de-evolution, instead evolution. :slapshead:

what so great about Da Vinci ? they are also being accused of fakes in China, land of the fakes...oh ya, may be, gifted in forgery ? or genuine copy / fake ?

[Chenonceau]

verykiasu2010:

ruohoo97:

Sadly, we don't have too many Da vinci today. I think our human being is de-evolution, instead evolution. :slapshead:

what so great about Da Vinci ? they are also being accused of fakes in China, land of the fakes...oh ya, may be, gifted in forgery ? or genuine copy / fake ?

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[corneyAmber]

cherryc:

Gep has started since 1984 ? And yet we have so little information like cost effective analysis from MOE.


I have met this person , at p1 he tried to discuss with me war strategies after reading tons of war books in K2. P3 got selected into GEP, PSLE top 5 in Spore, Sec 1 won individual awards in interschool sports competition , Upper sec top cohort in IP school for few subjects , spends his free time teaching friends who are weaker in studies.  And in actual fact, he Didnt attend the GEP program because his parents opted him out . (the 501th kid must be thanking him for the spot) I have to read 2ppaamm posts to Finally understand where his parents are coming from. And like LJ, he doesn't need the program to flourish? 

In the same vein as  2ppaamm , as long as there is fairness across the board , many people will be very grateful. Most if not all parents will like their poor kids to be stimulated. , to have more attention from the school to max their potential .  And many kids are bored too ( maybe teachers boring ....)

And yes I likeSheldon Tan!! 


http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20100214-198663.html

Another mistaken point in red... there is no such thing dear.

Fairness across the board? If only 1% invited for the screening, then I would agree with you that it is unfair.

I agree with you that not being in GEP is no big deal. If we know our children best, we will groom them anyway.

[2ppaamm]

Edureach:

2ppaamm


SAF is always looking for men/women of character and leadership. Education level is important but more critical is the ability to perform and make decisions under stressful conditions.

My guess is that humanities studies ie NUS arts and social studies is an area whereby a fair number of commanders come from. Of course NTU and SMU social sciences also produce a good number of commanders.


Totally no mention of gep. Don't knw why.

kekeke... nvm lah... I misunderstood you saying that they way they select must be good in everything, same thing for GEP... :stupid:

[verykiasu2010]

ksi:

ruohoo97:

Sadly, we don't have too many Da vinci today. I think our human being is de-evolution, instead evolution. :slapshead:

Because during Da vinci's time, no TV, no computer to distract him la...Modern day got Steve Job good enough already... mai tum sim...

Not so bleak la... usually so very talented people are not known when they are alive, they are better known when posthumous. If you know, da vinci live from 1452-1519. Only in 1528 then people label him as a genius until today... Best example was JS Bach....another great man for music, he was only known as great 100 years after his death...... So any conclusion this time?

good! like that I got hope! but then Dr Wolf Ksi got even greater hope .....sigh!

[corneyAmber]

Chenonceau:

Rightly or wrongly... I had assumed that Lim Jeck owed his achievements to his parents. Why would the MOE claim credit for LJ's achievements in mainstream? In primary school, in a class of between 40 to 44, I doubt he was much better taught Math than others. In mainstream, would he have achieved what he did to get into NUSH WITHOUT mathematician parents?

When students do poorly in mainstream, it is the parents' fault. When students shine in mainstream, the system is robust?

:?

I believe his mother has made it clear that he would suffer the GEP English. Btw his parents are not mathematicians, they own an IT business.
Aiyo.. I am going to stop this broken recorder thing. Lunch is ready!

[Edureach]

In NS, to get to know their mates, the following are some of the most common questions as far as jc cohort is concerned:


1. Which jc?
2. What’s your rank pt?
3. Which uni and course, both local and overseas.

Among my ds’ company which includes future doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers, teachers, businessman, public servants etc, no one not a single one ever mention he hailed from gep.

His is an enhanced leadership batch which includes some of the top psle scorers and many from the dream schools that we parents hope our kids will study there.