Real reason behind Singapore’s obsession with tuition
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ksi:
my boy was in Category 3 for past 3 years. the first time and last time they ever saw their Compo papers were on the exam day itself. even our request to see the paper on PTM were turned down.It seems that there are currently 3 practices on the returning of marked compo exam papers which are frequently deemed more difficult to explain the marks as they are marked by different teachers.
1. Some schools return to the children to bring the papers home (Completely open system)
2. Some schools show the paper to the children and then collect back (Half-open system)
3. Some schools do not even show the children the paper, not to mention about bringing them home. Only provide the scores. (Completely closed system)
Category 1 and 2 are familiar practices amongst my friends' kids' schools and mine. Category 3 is the first time I am reading in this forum which needs to be flagged out to the respective school. I agree that if there are sensitivities, at least let the children understand where they have done well or where they need improvement as every exam is also a learning process so Category 3 needs to get at least into Category 2.
I believe this is another area where there is no policy stated from MOE hence the varied practices. -
Actually for compo, many parents would want to know how kids fared. That is Paper 1…if kids feel that they did ok, they have confidence to move on and not worry about it. For compo, most schools will NOT even show kids nor tell them the grades…Category 3. If it is P6, especially, there is no harm telling us parents the grades? We have every reason to find out how we can help kids improve.
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Jedamum, if we can establish that Category 3 is a minority practice from others’ response, perhaps you have a case to try at the school again. At the end of the day, children can also learn from the better or worser compos they have written before. “Learn from mistakes” is a common way to learn at the primary level as well. Hope you can make some headway with your school in this matter.
Sorry Jedamum, you mentioned past 3 years your child was not shown the compo exam paper, now he is in P4, did he get to see it in SA1 then? -
janet_lee88:
Actually for compo, many parents would want to know how kids fared. That is Paper 1...if kids feel that they did ok, they have confidence to move on and not worry about it. For compo, most schools will NOT even show kids nor tell them the grades...Category 3. If it is P6, especially, there is no harm telling us parents the grades? We have every reason to find out how we can help kids improve.
Oh Janet, this is another surprise to me. It seems that you are talking about Category 4, (EXTREMELY closed system) whereby the kids are not even told about their compo marks? Is this really happening? Kindly confirm then I will update the category. -
ksi:
I don't know the grade. Honestly.janet_lee88:
Actually for compo, many parents would want to know how kids fared. That is Paper 1...if kids feel that they did ok, they have confidence to move on and not worry about it. For compo, most schools will NOT even show kids nor tell them the grades...Category 3. If it is P6, especially, there is no harm telling us parents the grades? We have every reason to find out how we can help kids improve.
Oh Janet, this is another surprise to me. It seems that you are talking about Category 4, (EXTREMELY closed system) whereby the kids are not even told about their compo marks? Is this really happening? Kindly confirm then I will update the category.
But my son still has to go to school, hope you understand. -
janet_lee88:
I don't know the grade. Honestly.ksi:
[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]Actually for compo, many parents would want to know how kids fared. That is Paper 1...if kids feel that they did ok, they have confidence to move on and not worry about it. For compo, most schools will NOT even show kids nor tell them the grades...Category 3. If it is P6, especially, there is no harm telling us parents the grades? We have every reason to find out how we can help kids improve.
Oh Janet, this is another surprise to me. It seems that you are talking about Category 4, (EXTREMELY closed system) whereby the kids are not even told about their compo marks? Is this really happening? Kindly confirm then I will update the category.
But my son still has to go to school, hope you understand.[/quote]I understand, I do not need to know the school, I am just surprised that they do not even furnish the compo marks separately from the overall English marks. I will update Category 4.
I am not sure if you have checked the rationale with the school for such a practice. Perhaps they have a good reason behind this. Pray share if you find out. -
I am disappointed, very disappointed that such vital info cannot be revealed.
Was told that heads will roll if compo marks are told. -
janet_lee88:
Why would heads roll? Unless anyhow mark and Kenna discovered la... :siam:I am disappointed, very disappointed that such vital info cannot be revealed.
Was told that heads will roll if compo marks are told. -
Chenonceau:
I am a bit disappointed that we have descended to vulgarity. And Intermezzo (this may stimulate another long emotive post from you which I won't know how to respond to), I had not expected that you would ride on the coat tails of vulgarity or someone else's fit of aggression. One can respect Becontented, Funz, Buds, Wonderm... who write and make sense... even if I don't always agree with them on every point.
and when vks2010 starts to substitute the i in important keywords with an exclamation mark, we can be pretty sure he means what he says.. :rotflmao:Intermezzo:
[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
saying it is forced by the system or policy is total bullshit
don't tell me those schools / principals who manage to get individual teachers for each subject are running afoul of MOE policy ?
bullsh!t!
have enuf friends who are teachers / HOD / principals / master teacher / directors in MOE to say it is never a policy
I am glad Beanbear (or any of those who support systemic change to education) did not see fit to respond to vulgarity with more vulgarity or KSP will degenerate into a forum of un-civil discussion. If this happens, civil people will concede defeat and leave the field to you. But I am not sure such behavior will convince those sitting on the fence. As for me, I will always lose (and unashamedly too) to excesses of emotion and vulgarity because I am unprepared to go that way [/quote]Hi Chen,
:goodpost: I remember I read in another thread that 'he' claim himself to be a civil person :roll:
Chen, I appreciate your effort to write these posts, providing opinions and very good suggestions to improve our education system. please please please continue to do so :please:
There are parents here who are very lucky to have good partnership with their children's school, have supportive and competent teachers /principals. Good for them! For those who do not, and are still going through the pain together with their children, shall find ways to help the precious ones. At the same time, parents who support systemic change to our education, please do write, post, feedback to MOE. And if these still fall on deaf ears, the next GE is definitely worth waiting for. -
Actually my DD also do not know her score. All I am told is below average & I dun know what is the average score even. However, after the whole PTM, I learnt from another mother she pushed hard & managed to find out her dd score.
Maybe I never try hard enough.