Aristocare
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Zeng:
But is aristocare registered as a tuition center?
Could be the so called free lance tuition at home.
This is interesting and it reminds me of an experience:
There is this Eng tutor, claimed to be from a 2nd tier current sec sch teacher, who used her home to give tuition. She advertised \"XXX tuition centre\" (not sure if it is registered). When i called, she said she teaches from home and encouraged me to bring my kids along to her place to check out. It was in the west, a 3 rm flat (which i've no problem). The strange thing is, she charges \"registration fee\". hahahah.... she operates like a tuition centre which she wanted fees in advance (cant remember now if it is a term or a month), and a deposit. She asked us to complete a registration form.
I passed the form to my dds who spotted a few spelling mistakes (which you may think it is typo error)..... and grammatical mistakes in her \"terms and conditions\". Hahahaha..... English teacher!!!! no need to say, if my dds have to correct her English, we didnt proceed with the tuition -
verykiasu2010:
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On page B2 of The Straits Times today - Case speaks out against private tutor. Kelvin Ong \"wondered how the consumer watchdog would be helping his pupils' parents pursue the case.\" Until now, he still believes he can get away?!? :mad: If so, there will many more Kelvin Ong in the market soon.
is flea market, and a flee market, because is a free market
case wont help if you are not a member. even if become member, what can case do? is our case a heavy weight player? -
Lynn2010:
Thats why the relevant authorities (or anyone here can confirm) should check if this so called center is registered bec in its original website info before it was taken down and in this thread, it was mentioned that there is a $200 registration fee ( payable annually) and a deposit. So if it is not a tution center, is the Consumer Act that Case mentioned in ST applicable? If these are free lance private transactions, what kind of rules/law are applicable?Zeng:
But is aristocare registered as a tuition center?
Could be the so called free lance tuition at home.
This is interesting and it reminds me of an experience:
There is this Eng tutor, claimed to be from a 2nd tier current sec sch teacher, who used her home to give tuition. She advertised \"XXX tuition centre\" (not sure if it is registered). When i called, she said she teaches from home and encouraged me to bring my kids along to her place to check out. It was in the west, a 3 rm flat (which i've no problem). The strange thing is, she charges \"registration fee\". hahahah.... she operates like a tuition centre which she wanted fees in advance (cant remember now if it is a term or a month), and a deposit. She asked us to complete a registration form.
I passed the form to my dds who spotted a few spelling mistakes (which you may think it is typo error)..... and grammatical mistakes in her \"terms and conditions\". Hahahaha..... English teacher!!!! no need to say, if my dds have to correct her English, we didnt proceed with the tuition
If you recall, in their website, Aristocare has 3 names as \"directors\" and \"principal\". Where are there? How come ST did not mention or interview all these directors? -
Zeng:
Thats why the relevant authorities (or anyone here can confirm) should check if this so called center is registered bec in its original website info before it was taken down and in this thread, it was mentioned that there is a $200 registration fee ( payable annually) and a deposit. So if it is not a tution center, is the Consumer Act that Case mentioned in ST applicable? If these are free lance private transactions, what kind of rules/law are applicable?Lynn2010:
[quote=\"Zeng\"]But is aristocare registered as a tuition center?
Could be the so called free lance tuition at home.
This is interesting and it reminds me of an experience:
There is this Eng tutor, claimed to be from a 2nd tier current sec sch teacher, who used her home to give tuition. She advertised \"XXX tuition centre\" (not sure if it is registered). When i called, she said she teaches from home and encouraged me to bring my kids along to her place to check out. It was in the west, a 3 rm flat (which i've no problem). The strange thing is, she charges \"registration fee\". hahahah.... she operates like a tuition centre which she wanted fees in advance (cant remember now if it is a term or a month), and a deposit. She asked us to complete a registration form.
I passed the form to my dds who spotted a few spelling mistakes (which you may think it is typo error)..... and grammatical mistakes in her \"terms and conditions\". Hahahaha..... English teacher!!!! no need to say, if my dds have to correct her English, we didnt proceed with the tuition
If you recall, in their website, Aristocare has 3 names as \"directors\" and \"principal\". Where are there? How come ST did not mention or interview all these directors?[/quote]Nothing is real from this con man... :evil: -
Kiasucy:
Phantom directors
Nothing is real from this con man... :evil:Zeng:
Thats why the relevant authorities (or anyone here can confirm) should check if this so called center is registered bec in its original website info before it was taken down and in this thread, it was mentioned that there is a $200 registration fee ( payable annually) and a deposit. So if it is not a tution center, is the Consumer Act that Case mentioned in ST applicable? If these are free lance private transactions, what kind of rules/law are applicable?
If you recall, in their website, Aristocare has 3 names as \"directors\" and \"principal\". Where are there? How come ST did not mention or interview all these directors? -
Lynn2010:
:goodpost: :goodpost:jtoh:
He knows there are parents who'll do anything to get their kids into GEP so he figures he can make a lot of money off them. If the parents weren't that desperate, he would have no biz. Makes me wonder if Dr Peh is at fault for calling his tuition centre Dr Peh when he is just a Mr Peh. Hhmmm....
If only MOE banned all these GEP training centres and the parents just let the children be; if they are gifted, so are they and no need special training to be gifted.
This way, MOE will really get those really gifted ones and not those who are trained to be gifted...... -
mamago:
:goodpost: :goodpost:[/quote]Banning isn't the issue... enforcing it is. And Singapore isn't like other neighbouring countries, it doesn't like to set laws which it can't enforce. Still, it may be a good idea to make an example out of KO.Lynn2010:
[quote=\"jtoh\"]He knows there are parents who'll do anything to get their kids into GEP so he figures he can make a lot of money off them. If the parents weren't that desperate, he would have no biz. Makes me wonder if Dr Peh is at fault for calling his tuition centre Dr Peh when he is just a Mr Peh. Hhmmm....
If only MOE banned all these GEP training centres and the parents just let the children be; if they are gifted, so are they and no need special training to be gifted.
This way, MOE will really get those really gifted ones and not those who are trained to be gifted...... -
Zeng:
Nope, relevant authorities won't check. As I've mentioned earlier in this thread, why would the government get its hands dirty? It'll just sit back, relax, and let the disgruntled parents hire private investigators and lawyers.Thats why the relevant authorities (or anyone here can confirm) should check if this so called center is registered bec in its original website info before it was taken down and in this thread, it was mentioned that there is a $200 registration fee ( payable annually) and a deposit. So if it is not a tution center, is the Consumer Act that Case mentioned in ST applicable? If these are free lance private transactions, what kind of rules/law are applicable?
If you recall, in their website, Aristocare has 3 names as \"directors\" and \"principal\". Where are there? How come ST did not mention or interview all these directors?
The forum letter from CASE already proves it, right? Instead of starting its own investigation to find out who was affected and take action against KO, it chooses to write a letter, inviting people to officially complain and seek legal action. Easy way out.
Of course, it's obvious that not everyone reads the papers/forums every day and could have missed CASE's message, but CASE doesn't care, does it?
I still stand by what I say: Parents should not get refunds since they were told by the government that GEP can't be trained (implication: GEP training sessions are useless/fake). But the government should still take action against KO just like any other scammer, instead of waiting for people to take their own legal action. -
ForumWriter:
With so many news reported recently, it is time they put it a stop to service priveders of GEP related training if thy still want to have this programme in place, else it become insulting to the education system here.
Nope, relevant authorities won't check. As I've mentioned earlier in this thread, why would the government get its hands dirty? It'll just sit back, relax, and let the disgruntled parents hire private investigators and lawyers.Zeng:
Thats why the relevant authorities (or anyone here can confirm) should check if this so called center is registered bec in its original website info before it was taken down and in this thread, it was mentioned that there is a $200 registration fee ( payable annually) and a deposit. So if it is not a tution center, is the Consumer Act that Case mentioned in ST applicable? If these are free lance private transactions, what kind of rules/law are applicable?
If you recall, in their website, Aristocare has 3 names as \"directors\" and \"principal\". Where are there? How come ST did not mention or interview all these directors?
The forum letter from CASE already proves it, right? Instead of starting its own investigation to find out who was affected and take action against KO, it chooses to write a letter, inviting people to officially complain and seek legal action. Easy way out.
Of course, it's obvious that not everyone reads the papers/forums every day and could have missed CASE's message, but CASE doesn't care, does it?
I still stand by what I say: Parents should not get refunds since they were told by the government that GEP can't be trained (implication: GEP training sessions are useless/fake). But the goverment should still take action against KO just like any other scammer, instead of waiting for people to take their own legal action. -
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He knows there are parents who'll do anything to get their kids into GEP so he figures he can make a lot of money off them. If the parents weren't that desperate, he would have no biz. Makes me wonder if Dr Peh is at fault for calling his tuition centre Dr Peh when he is just a Mr Peh. Hhmmm....
Straits Times Reporters,
pls help parents verify into Dr Peh background too. (just in case) Thank you.Otah:
agree !
With so much news reported recently, it is time they put it a stop to service priveders of GEP related training if thy still want to have this programme in place, else it become insulting to the education system here.ForumWriter:
CASE doesn't care, does it?
I still stand by what I say: Parents should not get refunds since they were told by the government that GEP can't be trained (implication: GEP training sessions are useless / fake). But the goverment should still take action against KO just like any other scammer, instead of waiting for people to take their own legal action.
government should intervene and put a stop, take action on ALL GEP Training centres including Dr. Peh, MindStretcher, other existing ones + new potential ones (scam con men ) entering the market. ENFORCE the LAW !
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