Comparing Math Enrichment Programmes
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Hi, my DD is not in the EL class (thinking to switch her over next year) but my niece is. However, she is in the standard class for the past 3 years. If my DD switch over, she will also be in the standard class. Only 2 students from my niece’s class are offered HA class for next year. LL standard class for EL is already very high standard in my opinion.
LL does not disclose the specific selection criteria (very secretive) but what I can confirm is it is through their own internal tests and not school results. Many students do very well in school test and furthermore, different schools, different standard… hard to compare. Some schools set easier papers so it is easier for the students to get higher mark as compare to the handful that enjoy setting killer papers.
For GEP students, they will automatically be assigned to HA classes. CW refers to creative writing. Heard from my niece that the 2 students in his class can write very well as teacher always shared / read out part of their compo. Similar to LP where my DD is taking EL there, management does not disclose how a student is assigned to the higher ability GIE class. However, teacher will tell the students if they do well and show improvement, they will be able to join a better class. Just a general statement and no criteria shared. -
kitty2:
How to \"run a check\" on those who posted about Indigo Centre? I hope real parents with real experience can come out and share their experiences about indigo. I'm thinking of signing up my kid there, so real feedback is welcomed.
:goodpost:Grr_roxy:
Hi,
A lot of posts about Indigo centre are very fishy. Parents, you have to be careful. Run a check of those \"parents\" who posted and you will know why. I am not against anyone but just angry for people who misled parents like us who truly wants to find a suitable tutor or center for our kiddos. -
shinpai:
Hi, the biggest problem is the staff turnover rate for Math and Science teachers is super high. Go to glassdoor.com to read up and you will know why. Secondly, there are also many young teachers who are not MOE trained. They do not have prior teaching experience from Primary Schools so some of these teachers have issues delivering the lessons well. Do remember to ask for experienced ex-school teachers only, otherwise $1300 down the drain and worse still, it is wasting the child's precious time of 1hr45min.nms1:
My husband is keen to sign our son (P3 this year) up for maths tuition at Learning Lab. We managed to get a slot on Saturday afternoon but it's immediately after his Chinese tuition and means that he basically loses his whole Saturday afternoon.
I am reluctant as we have to commit for a whole term ($1300+) with no option to pull out if he doesn't like it and no option for a trial. I'm also not a true 'kiasu' parent; he is doing OK in maths but doesn't really enjoy it so I feel that it is a bit of overkill.
Anyone have any comments on what the classes are like? What is the format? Is it more individual or participative? What are the teachers like? Do they always teach ahead of the syllabus? The T&Cs make it sound like a mortal sin to miss a class!
I would say almost all students at learning lab are average ability and above. However, no one can really tell if they are naturally already smart or benefitted from the tuition. Most students in my DD's class get 85 marks and above in their SAs and they are from top schools where exam papers are not at all easy.
For Eng, there are a few niche classes meant for HA students but most are mixed ability. HA students are identified through regular class work, test and CW.
For Math, there is no segregation of classes by ability but the worksheets that the students get to do can be different. Depending on the student's understanding of a topic, teacher may give an easier or more challenging worksheet. Their easier worksheet is not exactly that easy as the standard is still higher than school. The pace is faster than my DD's school, 1 unit ahead. If you miss a class, you can very easily join a replacement class with a valid reason. There are so many different timings and slots to choose from.
For Science, segregation is by school clusters, not results. Schools that teach in the same sequence by topics are grouped together. During registration, you will be told which is the correct menu for your child's school. In total, there are 8 or 9 different menus. Each menu has at least 5 different timings to choose from.
I am not sure about the Chinese Lab as for CL, I think we have other better choices. Cheaper and more established ones.
i heard the main issue about TLL is they were sold to a private equity group, whose main motivational factor is maximising profit in the short run. That's why they open up so many new centers in a short span, increased their intake, thereby diluting their brand...
A pity. Given how my girl did attended the school and was doing okay the year before. Found out that the experienced tutor whom she likes left for another centre and they kept changing tutor thereafter. Pulled her out at the end of last year. -
oliviachng:
That is a typical way for businesses to get listed and sold. After building the name, they expand and beautify the Profit and Loss for 3-5 years, get the investor on board, get listed and sold off the company.
i heard the main issue about TLL is they were sold to a private equity group, whose main motivational factor is maximising profit in the short run. That's why they open up so many new centers in a short span, increased their intake, thereby diluting their brand...nms1:
My husband is keen to sign our son (P3 this year) up for maths tuition at Learning Lab. We managed to get a slot on Saturday afternoon but it's immediately after his Chinese tuition and means that he basically loses his whole Saturday afternoon.
I am reluctant as we have to commit for a whole term ($1300+) with no option to pull out if he doesn't like it and no option for a trial. I'm also not a true 'kiasu' parent; he is doing OK in maths but doesn't really enjoy it so I feel that it is a bit of overkill.
Anyone have any comments on what the classes are like? What is the format? Is it more individual or participative? What are the teachers like? Do they always teach ahead of the syllabus? The T&Cs make it sound like a mortal sin to miss a class!
A pity. Given how my girl did attended the school and was doing okay the year before. Found out that the experienced tutor whom she likes left for another centre and they kept changing tutor thereafter. Pulled her out at the end of last year.
So, it is always important to check who is the trainer, rather than which centre/company.
Well, the centre/company might have a better system or more materials. But the trainer/coach is the one that can motivate your kids to do more. -
iwork:
That is a typical way for businesses to get listed and sold. After building the name, they expand and beautify the Profit and Loss for 3-5 years, get the investor on board, get listed and sold off the company.
i heard the main issue about TLL is they were sold to a private equity group, whose main motivational factor is maximising profit in the short run. That's why they open up so many new centers in a short span, increased their intake, thereby diluting their brand...oliviachng:
[quote=\"nms1\"]My husband is keen to sign our son (P3 this year) up for maths tuition at Learning Lab. We managed to get a slot on Saturday afternoon but it's immediately after his Chinese tuition and means that he basically loses his whole Saturday afternoon.
I am reluctant as we have to commit for a whole term ($1300+) with no option to pull out if he doesn't like it and no option for a trial. I'm also not a true 'kiasu' parent; he is doing OK in maths but doesn't really enjoy it so I feel that it is a bit of overkill.
Anyone have any comments on what the classes are like? What is the format? Is it more individual or participative? What are the teachers like? Do they always teach ahead of the syllabus? The T&Cs make it sound like a mortal sin to miss a class!
A pity. Given how my girl did attended the school and was doing okay the year before. Found out that the experienced tutor whom she likes left for another centre and they kept changing tutor thereafter. Pulled her out at the end of last year.
So, it is always important to check who is the trainer, rather than which centre/company.
Well, the centre/company might have a better system or more materials. But the trainer/coach is the one that can motivate your kids to do more.[/quote]
Yep. I'm with you on this one.
I've just attended a workshop sharing last week by a new tuition centre. They pride themselves in having fresh graduates who can supposedly connect with the kids. Was thinking of whether to sign my kids up. Anyone heard of \"The Intuition Hub\"? -
iwork:
That is a typical way for businesses to get listed and sold. After building the name, they expand and beautify the Profit and Loss for 3-5 years, get the investor on board, get listed and sold off the company.
i heard the main issue about TLL is they were sold to a private equity group, whose main motivational factor is maximising profit in the short run. That's why they open up so many new centers in a short span, increased their intake, thereby diluting their brand...oliviachng:
[quote=\"nms1\"]My husband is keen to sign our son (P3 this year) up for maths tuition at Learning Lab. We managed to get a slot on Saturday afternoon but it's immediately after his Chinese tuition and means that he basically loses his whole Saturday afternoon.
I am reluctant as we have to commit for a whole term ($1300+) with no option to pull out if he doesn't like it and no option for a trial. I'm also not a true 'kiasu' parent; he is doing OK in maths but doesn't really enjoy it so I feel that it is a bit of overkill.
Anyone have any comments on what the classes are like? What is the format? Is it more individual or participative? What are the teachers like? Do they always teach ahead of the syllabus? The T&Cs make it sound like a mortal sin to miss a class!
A pity. Given how my girl did attended the school and was doing okay the year before. Found out that the experienced tutor whom she likes left for another centre and they kept changing tutor thereafter. Pulled her out at the end of last year.
So, it is always important to check who is the trainer, rather than which centre/company.
Well, the centre/company might have a better system or more materials. But the trainer/coach is the one that can motivate your kids to do more.[/quote]
Yep. I'm with you on this one.
I've just attended a workshop sharing last week by a new tuition centre. They pride themselves in having fresh graduates who can supposedly connect with the kids. Was thinking of whether to sign my kids up. Anyone heard of \"The Intuition Hub\"? -
Just signed up with them. I’m intending to give them a semester to test it out.
The trainers look professional during their parents sharing workshop. Many of them are graduates from SMU and personally, I came across a lot of students from SMU in my work place and have a pretty good impression of them. If they are really able to encourage my girl to strive for better grades, why not? -
Just signed up with them. I’m intending to give them a semester to test it out.
The trainers look professional during their parents sharing workshop. Many of them are graduates from SMU and personally, I came across a lot of students from SMU in my work place and have a pretty good impression of them. If they are really able to encourage my girl to strive for better grades, why not? -
Any good tuition center or tutor to recommend for Sec 2 group tuition in central or west?
Thank you. -
Hi
I have full year materials (2016) for P3 Onsponge Maths (lessons at Oodles Learning Centre) for sale.
Kindly PM me if interested.
Thanks.
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