P2 Math - General Discussion
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CMF:
you sounds like my dd...the ans is actually when it comes to the term represent is like this
How I help my DS remember when to put eg \"70\" or \"7\" tens or eg \"700\" or \"7\" hundreds, is that whenever he sees the word eg \"tens\", he should place \"10\" above it or eg \"hundreds\", he should place \"100\" above it, so when the whole sentence is read, there should not be a repetition, as in the eg (1) above :
379 can be represented as __________tens.
If \"10\" was placed above the word \"tens\", then the answer would just be \"7\" and not \"70\", as there would already be a \"10\" placed there.Sorry hope above is clear as set out, difficult to explain properly when put into words!
379 can be represented as 37 tens.
not 7 tens or 70 :oops: -
plum-cake:
Oops apologies!! Not thinking clearly when using the eg!
you sounds like my dd...the ans is actually when it comes to the term represent is like thisCMF:
How I help my DS remember when to put eg \"70\" or \"7\" tens or eg \"700\" or \"7\" hundreds, is that whenever he sees the word eg \"tens\", he should place \"10\" above it or eg \"hundreds\", he should place \"100\" above it, so when the whole sentence is read, there should not be a repetition, as in the eg (1) above :
379 can be represented as __________tens.
If \"10\" was placed above the word \"tens\", then the answer would just be \"7\" and not \"70\", as there would already be a \"10\" placed there.Sorry hope above is clear as set out, difficult to explain properly when put into words!
379 can be represented as 37 tens.
not 7 tens or 70 :oops: -
plum-cake:
Hi Plum-cake,Hi
How do you teach / differenciate the place values? some of the questions uses the key words.. \"digit and stands for\" some uses \"represented as\" and some can be \"expressed as\"..
ex
1 )
In 379, the digit 7 stands for________.
379 can be represented as __________tens.
2 )
390 can be represented as ___ hundreds ____ tens.
or _________tens.
or _________ones.
my dd is getteing confused and giving me wrong ans.
My child just learned the above concept in Primary 3.
Sometimes the same key words when used in different context may have different meaning. Hence, the above statements have to be read in whole and not only focus on the few words to be able to understand what the question is asking.
ie \"The digit 7 stands for', is only asking about the value of that digit.
ie '390 can be represented as' is asking how to 're-present' the number 390 in another form'.
Not sure if it helps.
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teh_oh:
yes you got it ...I got that tooo... that is my question. but my daughter is not getting it. so keeps on making mistakes. I don't know how to stick it in her mind?
Hi Plum-cake,plum-cake:
Hi
How do you teach / differenciate the place values? some of the questions uses the key words.. \"digit and stands for\" some uses \"represented as\" and some can be \"expressed as\"..
ex
1 )
In 379, the digit 7 stands for________.
379 can be represented as __________tens.
2 )
390 can be represented as ___ hundreds ____ tens.
or _________tens.
or _________ones.
my dd is getteing confused and giving me wrong ans.
My child just learned the above concept in Primary 3.
Sometimes the same key words when used in different context may have different meaning. Hence, the above statements have to be read in whole and not only focus on the few words to be able to understand what the question is asking.
ie \"The digit 7 stands for', is only asking about the value of that digit.
ie '390 can be represented as' is asking how to 're-present' the number 390 in another form'.
Not sure if it helps.
:oops: -
janet_lee88:
My hands are tied...stressed and tired when they both return from school. Weekends are chaotic with them at home. Don't know why kids today are so hyperactive. Don't remember eating any special stuff when pregnant that made them 'Energizer Bunnies'.
genes... Its actually came from the \"big\" bunnies
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plum-cake:
yes you got it ...I got that tooo... that is my question. but my daughter is not getting it. so keeps on making mistakes. I don't know how to stick it in her mind?[/quote]Dejavu. Was going through this with DD last night. She did not understand the difference between a digit and the value.
Hi Plum-cake,teh_oh:
[quote=\"plum-cake\"]Hi
How do you teach / differenciate the place values? some of the questions uses the key words.. \"digit and stands for\" some uses \"represented as\" and some can be \"expressed as\"..
ex
1 )
In 379, the digit 7 stands for________.
379 can be represented as __________tens.
2 )
390 can be represented as ___ hundreds ____ tens.
or _________tens.
or _________ones.
my dd is getteing confused and giving me wrong ans.
My child just learned the above concept in Primary 3.
Sometimes the same key words when used in different context may have different meaning. Hence, the above statements have to be read in whole and not only focus on the few words to be able to understand what the question is asking.
ie \"The digit 7 stands for', is only asking about the value of that digit.
ie '390 can be represented as' is asking how to 're-present' the number 390 in another form'.
Not sure if it helps.
:oops:
Had to explain to her. Eg, a set of numbers, 456 is made up of 3 digits. 4, 5, 6. The digit 4 is in the hundreds column so its value will be 400, the 5 is in the tens column so its value is 50 and the 6 is in the ones column so the value is 6.
DD looked at me glassy eyed. But after going through with her a few more examples she more or less got it. Then comes the challenge of applying it.
She got it right about 80% of the time. Giving her time to digest what she grasped last night. -
i realized many math questions are simply testing the IQ of the kids… but it’s good to expose them to such questions…
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Callie Tan:
i realized many math questions are simply testing the IQ of the kids.... but it's good to expose them to such questions....
not only IQ the language ability as well. -
plum-cake:
Totally agree....Language skills are crucial in Section C - Problem sums. Some kids don't do well in maths, not because they can't do maths but because they have problems understanding the questiion.Callie Tan:
i realized many math questions are simply testing the IQ of the kids.... but it's good to expose them to such questions....
not only IQ the language ability as well. -
Tinkerbelle:
Totally agree....Language skills are crucial in Section C - Problem sums. Some kids don't do well in maths, not because they can't do maths but because they have problems understanding the questiion.[/quote]yeh, I did visible thinking with my dd page 8,9,10(p2) Page 8 is ok, but 9 n 10 all wrong. cause confution. now I am teaching her mathematical terms like stands for, represented as,expressed as...plum-cake:
[quote=\"Callie Tan\"]i realized many math questions are simply testing the IQ of the kids.... but it's good to expose them to such questions....
not only IQ the language ability as well.
I baught a single line book and make her do my own Qs. to practice.
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