Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary
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Jennifer:
If you studied PHPPS statistic, Science was the weakest subject as compared to other subjects for the past few years. Maybe i should said that PHPPS is traditionally weak in Science. The HOD Science just joined the school last year (if i am not wrong), see whether he can improve the percentage in this subject.
My elder boy had PE teachers as his Science teachers in P4 semester 2 and whole of P5, then P6 the HOD Science. All taught according to textbooks. No useful labs sessions (according to my boy lah). I dun see where the focus was.janet_lee88:
Hi Comfy,
The focus on Maths & Science was what the prev principal mentioned...but I have no idea whether the school has this plan. However, the Maths & Science exams are pretty tough. -
perhaps our current GEP programs isn’t structured well enough to bring out the best in these children, hence the not-as-spectacular results from these gifted children… each child is gifted in their own ways… how to tailor a program to fit all these unique children? too difficult…
I rather have the GEP on a subject to subject basis, rather than as a class/school… as I realise that children are gifted in only some areas… not all… but this can be done by schools’ subject banding already, no need for transfer of schools for ‘GEP’
I have a fren who’s son is selected for 2nd round GEP tests… he is smart, but more because he’s very well taught by his parents and preschool… the mom’s excited, but I wonder if the programs is the best option for the child… -
Jennifer:
Jennifer, i heard from my friend and this happened in other schools too. If you are going to depend on the textbook to do well, then you can simply forget about it.... there are too little information in there....what you can find in the textbook is just the basic concept and keywords that you need to know...the rest will be up to the kids to explore and research and apply correctly during the exam....so it is very different from the ways we learnt Science last time.....dd has another one more year to go, so i don't really bother to find out more about primary science. we wouldn't know when there will be any changes coming up...
My elder boy had PE teachers as his Science teachers in P4 semester 2 and whole of P5, then P6 the HOD Science. All taught according to textbooks. No useful labs sessions (according to my boy lah). I dun see where the focus was.janet_lee88:
Hi Comfy,
The focus on Maths & Science was what the prev principal mentioned...but I have no idea whether the school has this plan. However, the Maths & Science exams are pretty tough. -
Mrsbongz:
Exactly....we have GEP, we have subject banding, now MOE is piloting 'cottage' class......they themselves do not know which is the right formula......perhaps our current GEP programs isn't structured well enough to bring out the best in these children, hence the not-as-spectacular results from these gifted children.. each child is gifted in their own ways.. how to tailor a program to fit all these unique children? too difficult...
I rather have the GEP on a subject to subject basis, rather than as a class/school... as I realise that children are gifted in only some areas.. not all.. but this can be done by schools' subject banding already, no need for transfer of schools for 'GEP'
I have a fren who's son is selected for 2nd round GEP tests.. he is smart, but more because he's very well taught by his parents and preschool.. the mom's excited, but I wonder if the programs is the best option for the child.. -
php:
Jennifer, i heard from my friend and this happened in other schools too. If you are going to depend on the textbook to do well, then you can simply forget about it.... there are too little information in there....what you can find in the textbook is just the basic concept and keywords that you need to know...the rest will be up to the kids to explore and research and apply correctly during the exam....so it is very different from the ways we learnt Science last time.....dd has another one more year to go, so i don't really bother to find out more about primary science. we wou ld know where there will be any changes coming up...[/quote]just my personal experience : i-science is better than my pals are here for the science subject - content wise
My elder boy had PE teachers as his Science teachers in P4 semester 2 and whole of P5, then P6 the HOD Science. All taught according to textbooks. No useful labs sessions (according to my boy lah). I dun see where the focus was.Jennifer:
[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]Hi Comfy,
The focus on Maths & Science was what the prev principal mentioned...but I have no idea whether the school has this plan. However, the Maths & Science exams are pretty tough. -
php:
in the recent prelim (P6) more than half the top 10 in the whole cohort is from mainstream, and the #2 is from non-GEP (this is for one school around bukit timah)
Ask yourself the following questions :-
How many top PSLE scholar come from GEP class each year?
How many top 'O' or 'A' level scholar come from GEP class each year?
Ans : The majority will come from non-GEP.....
If the assessment method is able to detect the top 5% gifted kids in each cohort, then a more decent figure of said 90-95% of them should come from GEP class, but this is not the case. -
verykiasu2010:
And that school is NYPS, right?
in the recent prelim (P6) more than half the top 10 in the whole cohort is from mainstream, and the #2 is from non-GEP (this is for one school around bukit timah)php:
Ask yourself the following questions :-
How many top PSLE scholar come from GEP class each year?
How many top 'O' or 'A' level scholar come from GEP class each year?
Ans : The majority will come from non-GEP.....
If the assessment method is able to detect the top 5% gifted kids in each cohort, then a more decent figure of said 90-95% of them should come from GEP class, but this is not the case. -
Most of the kids leave PH for Nanyang GEP. Maybe some of the girls will head for RGPS.
The present Science textbook ‘My Pals’ is simply hopeless…no way can a student pass if he/she depends on it. Don’t tell me this is the ‘teach less know more’ approach…hope they can switch to a text with more info bcos not every child or parent will know how to source for reference books. -
janet_lee88:
but i heard all the textbook are more or less the same... you can't find one textbook where you can get all the information you want. the school expects the kids to do their own research.....so if the parents are too lazy to do the job, then the best solution is to find a good enrichment centre for the kids.....Most of the kids leave PH for Nanyang GEP. Maybe some of the girls will head for RGPS.
The present Science textbook 'My Pals' is simply hopeless...no way can a student pass if he/she depends on it. Don't tell me this is the 'teach less know more' approach...hope they can switch to a text with more info bcos not every child or parent will know how to source for reference books. -
Hi php,
I thought there might be better textbooks. Sometimes, parents may not be lazy to do research but don’t have the knowledge to do so.
Just curious, any old boy or girl from Pei Hwa here ? What was the standard during your time ??
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