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    • P Offline
      pirate
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      Bring it up again in the Punggol East by-election?

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      • C Offline
        concern2
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        pirate:
        Bring it up again in the Punggol East by-election?

        Wait till the next GE?

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          raysusan
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          http://leongszehian.com/?p=2332


          I refer to the report “Computer firm says town council’s claim “inaccurate”” (Channel NewsAsia, Dec 24).

          Open tender?

          It states that “In 2010, PAP TCs called an open tender to sell the ownership of the developed application software.

          But only 1 bid?

          Dr Teo said although five companies collected the tender agreement, the sole bid was submitted by AIM, a company fully owned by the PAP.

          Fantastic ROI?

          AIM offered to buy the software for S$140,000 and manage the system for a monthly fee of S$785 per TC, for an initial term ending 31 October 2011.”

          $785 a month times 14 town councils means that the annual revenue would be $131,880.

          This must arguably be the best business tender deal of the century, with 94 per cent of the investment recouped in just the first year!

          Have operating costs?

          Since “AIM only owns the rights to the software, so all computer hardware belong to the respective TCs and these remained with AHTC when its contract with AIM ended”, does it mean that AIM will not incur any operating costs?

          If so, then this may be the best investment in the world with a return on investment of 371 per cent ($131,880 times 5 years divided by $140,000) after say five years!

          Any maintenance?

          Is AIM involved in any way in the maintenance of the software? Who will maintain the software?

          Make documents public?

          How was the open tender called and publicised? Can the tender document and all related minutes of meetings, decisions taken, etc be made public?

          Who are the other four parties who collected the tender document, but did not submit a bid?

          Why? Why?

          The most important question in my view remains unanswered – why was the decision taken to sell the software and terminate Aljunied-Hougang town council’s use of the system?

          Residents’ interests?

          Were the interests of the residents considered? How can such a move be in the interest of the residents and Singaporeans? If the opposition had won more constituencies, wouldn’t there have been kaos for our citizens if the opposition town councils all had their software terminated, and couldn’t get them up and running in good time without severe interruption to services to the residents?

          Who decided?

          Who were involved in making this decision? – Were all the town councils’ MPs and town councilors aware of and condoned such a decision?

          Can all the documents, meeting minutes, etc, relating to this be made public?

          Any more “fully owned” companies?

          How many companies fully owned by the PAP are there, and what else do they own?

          Isn’t the above and the subject saga a clear conflict of interest?

          What were the original contract terms?

          As to “Coordinating Chairman of 14 PAP TCs Dr Teo Ho Pin said the TCMS owned and used by them was developed by National Computer Services Pte Ltd”, another unanswered question is how much was spent to develop the software? Were town councils’ funds and thus residents’ funds used?

          Since “the TCMS owned and used by them was developed by National Computer Services Pte Ltd”, what were the original contract terms, maintenance terms, etc? Should’t these be made public now?

          What a “stupid” reason?

          With regard to “In a letter to the media, Action Information Management Pte Ltd (AIM) said AHTC Chairman Sylvia Lim’s allegation that a service extension with AIM had to be “fought for” was inaccurate.

          AIM said two service extensions were granted – in August and September 2011 – before the contract lapsed.

          AIM also said it would have agreed to a further extension if the AHTC had asked for it.

          As AHTC did not do so, the contract was allowed to lapse.

          Ms Lim had said they did not believe any further extension was forthcoming”, this must be the “most stupid” reason that I have ever seen – if you terminate a service, and did not tell anyone that it can be extended if only the terminated party had asked again for the third time, then how would anyone know and ask for another extension?

          If AIM was prepared to keep extending, then why terminate in the first place?

          Where did the $140,000 come from?

          In respect of “AIM Chairman S Chandra Das said the company’s current directors, three former People’s Action Party (PAP) MPs, namely himself, Chew Heng Ching, and Lau Ping Sum do not receive directors’ fees or any other benefits”, since as I understand it AIM is a $2 company, who provided the $140,000 to buy the software?

          Was the requirement of good governance and due diligence followed by the 14 town councils in deciding to accept the only tenderee under such cirscmstances?

          In accordance with regulations?

          As to “In a separate letter, PAP Town Councils said its Town Councils Management System (TCMS) was sold to AIM through an open tender, and their contract was in accordance with the Town Councils’ Financial Regulations”, after all the revelations that are coming out in the subject saga and with still so many unanswered questions, is there something wrong which may leave much to be desired with the way town councils award contracts “in accordance with the Town Councils’ Financial Regulations”?

          Who’s doing the work?

          With regard to “Dr Teo also said the handover by AIM to AHTC took place from 27 May to 9 September, and during the transition, AIM had promptly handed over all data and information to AHTC in accordance with the TC’s preferred format”, who did all these work to hand over the data and information – staff of AIM?

          “Material change” ‘si simi’?

          Since the software was sold with a clause that allowed for AIM to terminate the software lease with a month’s notice should there be a “material change” to the town council’s membership, was this the reason for termination? Now, this is the strange part – why would anyone sell a vital software by open tender to anyone and be arguably held to ranson, if and when there is “a “material change” to the town council’s membership” – whatever this “material change” was intended to mean?

          More questions galore!

          It appears that as we get more answers to Singaporeans’ questions on this continuing saga, the more questions may seem to be raised? Uniquely Singapore!

          Leong Sze Hian

          P.S. You may also like to read the previous article “What has Aljunied-Hougang TC’s IT system got to do with Changi airport?“, Dec 18)

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          • NebbermindN Offline
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            It would be interesting to know when AIM was registered, like how long prior to the tender. and also what was the development cost of the software.


            What is the benefit of the sale if each TC gets $10k from it (if divided equally) and then pay almost the same amt every yr to AIM?

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              limlim
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              Why did they award the bid to a $2 company??


              Can pass audit meh this kind of transaction for Govt organisation…

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                matrix0405
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                Leong has asked all the right questions to this rather strange case. Yahoo news and new media have overran our newspapers ST, Wanbao by a week. Still no report from them; maybe haven got approval yet.

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                  Dreamgear
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                  Funny why ncs never even put in a bid… ?

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                    Way2GO
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                    Nebbermind:
                    It would be interesting to know when AIM was registered, like how long prior to the tender. and also what was the development cost of the software.

                    AIM was reportedly registered in January 2012, four months prior to GE 2012.
                    Looks like MIWs preempt loss of GRC.
                    Nebbermind:
                    What is the benefit of the sale if each TC gets $10k from it (if divided equally) and then pay almost the same amt every yr to AIM?
                    Exactly.
                    d members of each n every Town Council who OKed d sale n who did not act in d interest of d residents who elected them to parliament shd be strung by d b***s.

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                      Way2GO
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                      Extracted dis schematic fr dis blog:

                      http://feedmetothefish.blogspot.sg/
                      http://i49.tinypic.com/jj1pnp.png\">

                      Dis fecal matter stinks worse than all d rubbish chutes combined in a badly run HDB estate.
                      How did a $2 shell company without known prior experience in estate management software fronted by 3 old men win a public tender?
                      Was NCS paid with money collected fr residents in Town Council funds to develop d software?
                      Why would any prudent Town Council who acts in public interest relinquish ownership of estate management software developed at its own costs sell it to a $2 shell company, and then pays it a monthly fee to use it?

                      Let's look at d numbers - AIM gets $785/month/Town council for 14 Town Councils works out to a revenue of $131,880 per annum, which means AIM will recover its initial cost of purchase of d software at $140K within 13 months. Hard to believe no other company in SG is not interested to bid for such a cash cow.
                      It also begs d question of NCS's actions n where its loyalty lies.

                      Why wld any sensible company with a very small customer base with only one product to market further limits its revenue by inserting a condition of sale dat \"it has the right to terminate the contract when there is a material change in the composition of a Town Council.\"? Unless of course, AIM was set up for a different purpose.

                      Dis is clearly an attempt by d MIWs to impede or hinder d smooth running of a Town Council won by d opposition, bog down d MIBs in estate management when as MPs, their time would be better spent representing their constituents n contributing in parliament.
                      PAP aimed but misfired. In trying to make d MIBs look bad in d MND report on Town Councils, d revelations of behind d scene shenanigans in dis episode will turn back to bite d MIWs in d arse.

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                        limlim
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                        Way2GO:
                        Nebbermind:

                        It would be interesting to know when AIM was registered, like how long prior to the tender. and also what was the development cost of the software.


                        AIM was reportedly registered in January 2012, four months prior to GE 2012.
                        Looks like MIWs preempt loss of GRC.

                        http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/72591427-post339.html

                        Link to asiaone article in the linked post.
                        [quote]He said that the company was formed 20 years ago to provide IT-related services. Mr Chandra Das added that the current directors - himself, Mr Chew Heng Ching, and Lau Ping Sum - \"do not receive directors' fees or any other benefits\". All three are former PAP MPs.[/quote]hmm......... 4mths ago or 20yrs ago..?

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