Catholic High School

[san20sg]

Thanks, it seems IP students will be taking HCL in Sec 1/2 and most likely continue thereafter and OP students will be taking either CL/HCL depending on MOE allocation after PSLE results.


May I understand how many CL classes are there in Catholic High currently?

[Zeal mummy]

As this is a SAP school, most children will take higher Chinese… unless the child is not being offered it or can’t cope with it. I hope parents understand the objectives of having SAP schools.

[phtthp]

san20sg\" post_id=\"2063546\" time=\"1649114376\" user_id=\"76391:

Thanks, it seems IP students will be taking HCL in Sec 1/2 and most likely continue thereafter and OP students will be taking either CL/HCL depending on MOE allocation after PSLE results.

May I understand how many CL classes are there in Catholic High currently?

In a SAP school,
majority are taking HCL.
Not many students take CL

Eg.

say,
there are Total 38 students in a Sec 1 class. Out of these 38, maybe below 10 are taking CL, while majority are doing HCL.

So, what happen ?

When school bell ring for Chinese lessons, in a SAP school, the majority students will remain inside the same class, just wait for the HCL Teacher to come in. But the minority can pack up their Chinese textbook, go to another class to join other students, for CL.

In a SAP school,
those taking CL are the odd ones out.

If u are not that keen in Chinese, just join a NON-SAP school, will do.

[san20sg]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2063604\" time=\"1649142493\" user_id=\"35251:

In a SAP school,
majority are taking HCL.
Not many students take CL

Eg.

say,
there are Total 38 students in a Sec 1 class. Out of these 38, maybe below 10 are taking CL, while majority are doing HCL.

So, what happen ?

When school bell ring for Chinese lessons, in a SAP school, the majority students will remain inside the same class, just wait for the HCL Teacher to come in. But the minority can pack up their Chinese textbook, go to another class to join other students, for CL.

In a SAP school,
those taking CL are the odd ones out.

If u are not that keen in Chinese, just join a NON-SAP school, will do.

All IP students will be taking HCL. For O'level students, MOE will allocate either HCL or CL depending on the student's grade. Usually, if you have an AL score of 8 or lower, or AL1/2 for your CL exams, you will be assigned HCL. Otherwise, the student will be taking CL. It is not that uncommon for kids in SAP schools to be taking CL instead of HCL.

It is also not a question of SAP or Non-SAP. My boy hates Chinese but he just loves his school. He just happens to be in a SAP primary school that's all.

[sembgal]

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[sembgal]

san20sg\" post_id=\"2063504\" time=\"1649051167\" user_id=\"76391:

Does this mean they can opt for CL from Sec 1 onwards?

O level programme - Sec 1 can do Chinese and not Higher Chinese. Any further changes to 2023, please check with school directly.

[phtthp]

san20sg\" post_id=\"2063504\" time=\"1649051167\" user_id=\"76391:

Does this mean they can opt for CL from Sec 1 onwards?

When u use the word \"opt out\",
it means that u actually qualified for HCL (Sec 1 onwards), but strangely, you don't want to do HCL ?


May I ask,

why do u want to opt out of HCL from Sec 1, especially studying in a SAP Secondary school like CHS, doesn't quite make sense,
when


1) if your son is from the \"IP\" track, everyone is trying to clear HCL by end of Year 4 (IP), so that when go up to Year 5 (Eunoia JC), can forget about Chinese.

You mean,
you still want him to study one more additional burdened subject (Chinese) in Eunoia JC, when his plate is full of 4 H2 A-level subjects piled up, and when so many other EJC (1) students are already done with HCL clearance ?

Or


2) if your son is from the \"O\" level track,

so many boys doing Standard Chinese (\"pu- hua\") at the end of Sec 1 are trying their best to brush up / improve Chinese, hoping to be offered to start Sec 2 (HCL) January to catch up, so that come Sec 4, they still have the opportunity, make it in time to clear their HCL asap and thus, further reduced their L1R5 Raw score by another 2 discounted points, to enter better JCs. These two discounted points are so crucial, to our O-level boys!

So,
whether your son fall under \"IP\" or fall under \"O-level\" track, it is still far better to clear your HCL, by end of Sec 4. Just get it over and be done with Chinese. All you need is a minimum, lowest \"D7\" grade in clearance of GCE O-level (HCL). MOE is asking for D7, not C6 clearance. Look long term, think long term.

[san20sg]

san20sg\" post_id=\"2064548\" time=\"1650196720\" user_id=\"76391:

All IP students will be taking HCL. For O'level students, MOE will allocate either HCL or CL depending on the student's grade. Usually, if you have an AL score of 8 or lower, or AL1/2 for your CL exams, you will be assigned HCL. Otherwise, the student will be taking CL. It is not that uncommon for kids in SAP schools to be taking CL instead of HCL.

It is also not a question of SAP or Non-SAP. My boy hates Chinese but he just loves his school. He just happens to be in a SAP primary school that's all.

The above is the reply from the Chinese assistant head of CHS. All IP kids will be taking HCL. For O'level track, MOE will assign HCL or CL depending on your grade that you got in your PSLE. Those that have AL8 or lower will be assigned HCL.

[san20sg]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2066898\" time=\"1652076537\" user_id=\"35251:

When u use the word \"opt out\",
it means that u actually qualified for HCL (Sec 1 onwards), but strangely, you don't want to do HCL ?


May I ask,

why do u want to opt out of HCL from Sec 1, especially studying in a SAP Secondary school like CHS, doesn't quite make sense,
when


1) if your son is from the \"IP\" track, everyone is trying to clear HCL by end of Year 4 (IP), so that when go up to Year 5 (Eunoia JC), can forget about Chinese.

You mean,
you still want him to study one more additional burdened subject (Chinese) in Eunoia JC, when his plate is full of 4 H2 A-level subjects piled up, and when so many other EJC (1) students are already done with HCL clearance ?

Or


2) if your son is from the \"O\" level track,

so many boys doing Standard Chinese (\"pu- hua\") at the end of Sec 1 are trying their best to brush up / improve Chinese, hoping to be offered to start Sec 2 (HCL) January to catch up, so that come Sec 4, they still have the opportunity, make it in time to clear their HCL asap and thus, further reduced their L1R5 Raw score by another 2 discounted points, to enter better JCs. These two discounted points are so crucial, to our O-level boys!

So,
whether your son fall under \"IP\" or fall under \"O-level\" track, it is still far better to clear your HCL,
by end of Sec 4. Just get it over and be done with Chinese. All you need is a minimum, lowest \"D7\" grade in clearance of GCE O-level (HCL). MOE is asking for D7, not C6 clearance. Look long term, think long term.

Sec 1 HCL is not easy at all - There is a minimum grade for promotion, and it will also affect your total average % which may affect streaming in Sec 2. Most importantly, he does not want to do HCL at all but he has a strong attachment to his school and wants to be back here. It's a boy thing maybe I don't know! Anyway after talking to the head, my boy likely would not be assigned HCL if he goes into CHS via affiliation AL12, so I have also cleared my concerns at my end. Also, he may not be going the JC route as well. Not looking at IP track at all.

[ChiefKiasu]

san20sg\" post_id=\"2066954\" time=\"1652109570\" user_id=\"76391:

Sec 1 HCL is not easy at all - There is a minimum grade for promotion, and it will also affect your total average % which may affect streaming in Sec 2. Most importantly, he does not want to do HCL at all but he has a strong attachment to his school and wants to be back here. It's a boy thing maybe I don't know! Anyway after talking to the head, my boy likely would not be assigned HCL if he goes into CHS via affiliation AL12, so I have also cleared my concerns at my end. Also, he may not be going the JC route as well. Not looking at IP track at all.

Yes... I had a strong attachment to my St Andrew's primary school so I went to the secondary school. I wasn't so impressed with the secondary school experience so I went off to a JC where very few (about 5) of my classmates went to, instead of SAJC.

Nothing wrong with kids not going to IP/JCs or university at all. As long as he is doing his best in whatever he is currently doing, and can thrive wherever he goes to, he will succeed in all that he aims for. And our role is not to bask in whatever glory he brings, but to understand and support him in whatever ways we can to bring him to that level.