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    DSA 2011

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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      Edureach
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      ApronMama:

      [quote=\"TwaTau\"]ACSI is not in the \"A\" league as that of HCI and RI, so difficult to do apple to apple comparison. Wonder why ACSI switch to the \"IB\" league?


      Even though, heard their dsa very difficult to get an offer and their dsa charge is the highest.

      ACSI DSA fee is the highest at $80 because they use the HAST not GAT. HAST stands for High Ability Selection Test. HAST is a 2.5h paper vs GAT of perhaps 40 mins? DS sat for the test already. They have another round of HAST on July 8 or 9, I think. Total year 1 intake 180. DSA vacancies 90. Actually theirs is not the highest. NUS high charges $100 for dsa camp on top of the $50 registration fees.

      ACSI said they switched to IB league because they believe it is more superior, and the programme produces more well-rounded students. It claims to be more relevant to modern society needs and nuture thinkers instead of route learners.[/quote]
      Think must have students from different form of training not just the traditional route otherwise, how these future leaders going to lead the nation forward with new ideas?

      Ultimately, vast majority will still end up together in NUS/NTU/SMU/SUST unless have the financial resources or ability to win scholarships.

      Really too much emphasis on all these top few schools.

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        ApronMama
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        Edureach:
        At the end of the day is still boils down to your A-level/IB/Diploma results not which instituition you are from. Doesn't matter is RI/HCI/NUSH/ACSI/SOTA/NJC/DHS/RVH/CHS/VJC/SCGS/MGS/CGS/SJI anymore?

        agree that if the objective is such there is no diff which school you go to but it is the learning process, experience, environment, culture or the kind of school sprit that they will go through that make the different life experience in them.

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          Edureach
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          vlim:
          Edureach:

          At the end of the day is still boils down to your A-level/IB/Diploma results not which instituition you are from. Doesn't matter is RI/HCI/NUSH/ACSI/SOTA/NJC/DHS/RVH/CHS/VJC/SCGS/MGS/CGS/SJI anymore?


          yes..other then academic results..i also hope that during the 4-6 yrs of secondary life...he would be able to enjoy himself with the right 'click' and environment and character building.. So in some sense, going to which school do matter a bit..Imo...



          Disagree with your view totally. You will never know whether your kid is able to develop fully and enjoy his/her days in the dream school just on the basis of the information available to you.

          At best, its a calculated decision. Nothing more!

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            vlim
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            ApronMama:
            Edureach:

            At the end of the day is still boils down to your A-level/IB/Diploma results not which instituition you are from. Doesn't matter is RI/HCI/NUSH/ACSI/SOTA/NJC/DHS/RVH/CHS/VJC/SCGS/MGS/CGS/SJI anymore?


            agree that if the objective is such there is no diff which school you go to but it is the learning process, experience, environment, culture or the kind of school sprit that they will go through that make the different life experience in them.

            :hugs:

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              Edureach
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              ApronMama:
              Edureach:

              At the end of the day is still boils down to your A-level/IB/Diploma results not which instituition you are from. Doesn't matter is RI/HCI/NUSH/ACSI/SOTA/NJC/DHS/RVH/CHS/VJC/SCGS/MGS/CGS/SJI anymore?


              agree that if the objective is such there is no diff which school you go to but it is the learning process, experience, environment, culture or the kind of school sprit that they will go through that make the different life experience in them.


              In reality as outlined in my response to vlim, you will never know which instituition suits your kid best. Your decision is based on information available and your judgement.

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                verykiasu2010
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                Edureach:
                ApronMama:

                [quote=\"Edureach\"]At the end of the day is still boils down to your A-level/IB/Diploma results not which instituition you are from. Doesn't matter is RI/HCI/NUSH/ACSI/SOTA/NJC/DHS/RVH/CHS/VJC/SCGS/MGS/CGS/SJI anymore?


                agree that if the objective is such there is no diff which school you go to but it is the learning process, experience, environment, culture or the kind of school sprit that they will go through that make the different life experience in them.


                In reality as outlined in my response to vlim, you will never know which instituition suits your kid best. Your decision is based on information available and your judgement.[/quote]and in reality we DO know which schools will not benefit our kids and would probably do more harm than good

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                  Edureach
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                  verykiasu2010


                  Agreed with your statement. Anw respect views made by vlim and ApronMama even though mine is different.

                  Only seek to provide an alternative view to help in correcting the overemphasis that certain schools are the best.

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                    TREX8
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                    Disclaimer: This is my opinion and I hope parents with kids in GEP (my DD is in GEP) are not going to be offended...


                    Strange to think of gep kids as privileged. I told DD that GEP kids are a bunch of special needs kids except that they are on the other side of the spectrum where their \"disability\" is viewed as of value in our society.

                    If you compare, small class size, special teaching methods and programmes, having an in-house counsellor, having a special branch in MOE for GEP - isn't it the same as for special needs kids (eg. those with ADHD, dyslexia etc)?

                    I've always told DD to view herself as lucky (rather than privileged) as our current school system, besides accommodating her \"disability\", even accord a status to it.

                    And in Singapore's context, kids in the GEP are there mainly because of \"academic giftedness\" and not other areas (eg. those with a gift for music, art, computer programming etc) of giftedness. I have another child who is not likely to be in GEP (unless the selection tests decide to select kids based on their ability to name dinosaurs and lego building :lol: ) but I do not think of himself as \"less privileged\" than his sister.

                    phankao:
                    vlim:

                    I agree w you apronmama...though mainstreams students also need to study very hard and do alot of assignment in preparation for the psle...but gep curriculum are more in depth and need a lot of thinking and 😓 and :scratchhead: ....so I think is not very fair to say that it is a 'privilege' to 'most ' of them.... plus they took the same gep exams so is quite safe to base on their gep results as the basic judgements...


                    Certainly privileged. Bc they are naturally gifted. The \"gift\" given to them is already a privilege not given to other non-gifted kids. Already born with extra blessings, mah.

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                      ngbrdad
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                      TREX8:
                      Disclaimer: This is my opinion and I hope parents with kids in GEP (my DD is in GEP) are not going to be offended...


                      Strange to think of gep kids as privileged. I told DD that GEP kids are a bunch of special needs kids except that they are on the other side of the spectrum where their \"disability\" is viewed as of value in our society.

                      If you compare, small class size, special teaching methods and programmes, having an in-house counsellor, having a special branch in MOE for GEP - isn't it the same as for special needs kids (eg. those with ADHD, dyslexia etc)?

                      I've always told DD to view herself as lucky (rather than privileged) as our current school system, besides accommodating her \"disability\", even accord a status to it.

                      And in Singapore's context, kids in the GEP are there mainly because of \"academic giftedness\" and not other areas (eg. those with a gift for music, art, computer programming etc) of giftedness. I have another child who is not likely to be in GEP (unless the selection tests decide to select kids based on their ability to name dinosaurs and lego building :lol: ) but I do not think of himself as \"less privileged\" than his sister.
                      phankao:

                      [quote=\"vlim\"]I agree w you apronmama...though mainstreams students also need to study very hard and do alot of assignment in preparation for the psle...but gep curriculum are more in depth and need a lot of thinking and 😓 and :scratchhead: ....so I think is not very fair to say that it is a 'privilege' to 'most ' of them.... plus they took the same gep exams so is quite safe to base on their gep results as the basic judgements...


                      Certainly privileged. Bc they are naturally gifted. The \"gift\" given to them is already a privilege not given to other non-gifted kids. Already born with extra blessings, mah.

                      [/quote]
                      Like the professor xavier's school for gifted youngsters ?

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                        phankao
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                        Edureach:
                        vlim:

                        [quote=\"Edureach\"]At the end of the day is still boils down to your A-level/IB/Diploma results not which instituition you are from. Doesn't matter is RI/HCI/NUSH/ACSI/SOTA/NJC/DHS/RVH/CHS/VJC/SCGS/MGS/CGS/SJI anymore?


                        yes..other then academic results..i also hope that during the 4-6 yrs of secondary life...he would be able to enjoy himself with the right 'click' and environment and character building.. So in some sense, going to which school do matter a bit..Imo...



                        Disagree with your view totally. You will never know whether your kid is able to develop fully and enjoy his/her days in the dream school just on the basis of the information available to you.

                        At best, its a calculated decision. Nothing more![/quote]You also won't know what kind of kids and exactly what kind of marriage you will have. You have zero information about the kids you birth altho' some gut feel about your marriage.

                        I think you'll have way way way more information about the schools before you select them. Class sizes, teachers, how the student leaders and teachers and principal present themselves and information and how they interact with you, the school environment and culture. The school's programmes. How they segregate classes. Forums like these online where many share or you can ask if anyone has experience to share.

                        Of course, the other rather important factor is gut feel. And for some of us, there are other factors that help make the decision.

                        My kids have all been very happy with their choice of schools. I daresay that they have chosen wisely and that alternative choices may not have been suitable. eg. what my elder ds chose for sec school has been really great for him. He has been given lots of opportunities and blossomed lots as a result. If he'd stayed in his affiliated sec school(your son's alma mater), he wouldn't have had the same chances . However, your son's alma mater would actually suit my younger son better...so it's really all about an appropriate fit based on the child's personality and learning style. Certainly we know quite a bit of information. Altho, yes, admittedly, it's never the same as experiencing it 1st-hand. That's why gut-feel and prayers are important too.

                        Only you know your child best. I won't say that ANY school in Singapore would suit every single one of my 4 children!!! That would really be a bad fit. It's like saying that arranged marriages suit everyone bc the end-result is the same.

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