DSA 2011

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ngbrdad:

Zann:

Thanks Vlim. Wow, two days before PSLE oral leh, every year liddat ? I hope next year they could have it at least 1 week earlier/later then PSLE oral. But DSA overall % excludes SS, right? But fren told me HCI online application requires entering SS score, How about RI and the others?

RI didn't ask for SS marks.
In theory if you don't get 70 overall for ss, may not get promoted to secondary GE.
So if a kid manage to get DSA thru GE but then didn't get 70 overall for ss, will the kid lose the DSA place ?

I thought only need a pass to be promoted to Sec GE? the 70% based is just to determine whether the student needs help & also whether he/she can continue with HMT if he/she couldn't hit the 70% baseline? :scratchhead:

[jtoh]

ngbrdad:

Zann:

Thanks Vlim. Wow, two days before PSLE oral leh, every year liddat ? I hope next year they could have it at least 1 week earlier/later then PSLE oral. But DSA overall % excludes SS, right? But fren told me HCI online application requires entering SS score, How about RI and the others?

RI didn't ask for SS marks.
In theory if you don't get 70 overall for ss, may not get promoted to secondary GE.
So if a kid manage to get DSA thru GE but then didn't get 70 overall for ss, will the kid lose the DSA place ?

This is all hypothetical because most kids would be able to maintain their GEP status in secondary school. But hypothetically, if a kid does lose his GEP status, it shouldn't affect his DSA CO. But it might mean he may not be placed in the GEP classes. But I would think that the secondary school would accomodate him in the GEP classes, unless his PSLE results are really bad.

[ngbrdad]

jtoh:

This is all hypothetical because most kids would be able to maintain their GEP status in secondary school. But hypothetically, if a kid does lose his GEP status, it shouldn't affect his DSA CO. But it might mean he may not be placed in the GEP classes. But I would think that the secondary school would accomodate him in the GEP classes, unless his PSLE results are really bad.

Then what about the $200 GE grant ?
That comes from MOE right ?

[Interested]

jtoh:

Interested:

Nice to hear that ...at least know there is some hope if he really work very hard....asking this question as i dunno where my ds stand for mainstream result....not all paper return to them yet...again language oso not sure as some marks are not reveal to them too.

Interested, how did your ds do for his prelims? You would be able to get an indication of his performance against the mainstreamers in his school through his prelim results. Compare his results against the highest, lowest and median scores of his cohort.

Hi jtoh,

I can't compare as no report book back yet. Maths managed 80plus, Eng oral not known (over how many % ?), chinese listerning n oral not known (over how many % ?), science not back yet. :scratchhead:

[jtoh]

ngbrdad:

jtoh:

This is all hypothetical because most kids would be able to maintain their GEP status in secondary school. But hypothetically, if a kid does lose his GEP status, it shouldn't affect his DSA CO. But it might mean he may not be placed in the GEP classes. But I would think that the secondary school would accomodate him in the GEP classes, unless his PSLE results are really bad.

Then what about the $200 GE grant ?
That comes from MOE right ?

You're referring to EESIS, which is awarded to GEP students who are promoted to secondary GEP status. If a student fails SS and is not able to maintain his GEP status, then he will not be given EESIS under GEP. BUT if his T-score is within the top 3% of PSLE scorers, he will still be given EESIS, as will all mainstreamers who score within the top 3% of all PSLE students.

But I would imagine that someone who is able to score within the top 3% of the PSLE population should be able to maintain his GEP status.

Edited to add: Not sure why I remember top 3%. I think it might be lower than top 3%.

[jtoh]

Interested:

jtoh:

[quote=\"Interested\"]
Nice to hear that ...at least know there is some hope if he really work very hard....asking this question as i dunno where my ds stand for mainstream result....not all paper return to them yet...again language oso not sure as some marks are not reveal to them too.

Interested, how did your ds do for his prelims? You would be able to get an indication of his performance against the mainstreamers in his school through his prelim results. Compare his results against the highest, lowest and median scores of his cohort.

Hi jtoh,

I can't compare as no report book back yet. Maths managed 80plus, Eng oral not known (over how many % ?), chinese listerning n oral not known (over how many % ?), science not back yet. :scratchhead:[/quote]He should be getting it back next week. Don't worry too much. Just encourage your son to work hard. Parents here have shared that their kids have been able to score >260 despite scoring <75% at GEP, so jiayou!

[ngbrdad]

jtoh:

You're referring to EESIS, which is awarded to GEP students who are promoted to secondary GEP status. If a student fails SS and is not able to maintain his GEP status, then he will not be given EESIS under GEP. BUT if his T-score is within the top 3% of PSLE scorers, he will still be given EESIS, as will all mainstreamers who score within the top 3% of all PSLE students.

But I would imagine that someone who is able to score within the top 3% of the PSLE population should be able to maintain his GEP status.

From what I understand during the GE department talk, ask long as the student manage to get a place in the SBGE programme of a recognised school on the MOE list (By DSA or other ways), the kid will get the $200 GE grant.
It's different form EESIS so don't have to be top 3% of PSLE.

[jtoh]

ngbrdad:

jtoh:

You're referring to EESIS, which is awarded to GEP students who are promoted to secondary GEP status. If a student fails SS and is not able to maintain his GEP status, then he will not be given EESIS under GEP. BUT if his T-score is within the top 3% of PSLE scorers, he will still be given EESIS, as will all mainstreamers who score within the top 3% of all PSLE students.

But I would imagine that someone who is able to score within the top 3% of the PSLE population should be able to maintain his GEP status.

From what I understand during the GE department talk, ask long as the student manage to get a place in the SBGE programme of a recognised school on the MOE list (By DSA or other ways), the kid will get the $200 GE grant.
It's different form EESIS so don't have to be top 3% of PSLE.

No, it's EESIS. You'll see it when your son gets his PSLE results slip, it'll be printed clearly there: EESIS. It's also stated on the MOE website:


The EESIS is also awarded to P6 GEP pupils who are Singapore Citizens and who

1. meet the P6 GEP promotion criteria, and
2. are enrolled in the IP in an Independent School at S1.


http://www.moe.gov.sg/initiatives/edusave/funds-grants-awards/eesis/

[ngbrdad]

jtoh:

No, it's EESIS. You'll see it when your son gets his PSLE results slip, it'll be printed clearly there: EESIS. It's also stated on the MOE website:


The EESIS is also awarded to P6 GEP pupils who are Singapore Citizens and who

1. meet the P6 GEP promotion criteria, and
2. are enrolled in the IP in an Independent School at S1.


http://www.moe.gov.sg/initiatives/edusave/funds-grants-awards/eesis/

I see.
Does that mean that the GEP kids who DSA thru the GE domain will need to be at the top 3% of PSLE or their parents will need to pay the full fees in an independent IP school ?

[jtoh]

ngbrdad:

jtoh:

No, it's EESIS. You'll see it when your son gets his PSLE results slip, it'll be printed clearly there: EESIS. It's also stated on the MOE website:


The EESIS is also awarded to P6 GEP pupils who are Singapore Citizens and who

1. meet the P6 GEP promotion criteria, and
2. are enrolled in the IP in an Independent School at S1.


http://www.moe.gov.sg/initiatives/edusave/funds-grants-awards/eesis/

I see.
Does that mean that the GEP kids who DSA thru the GE domain will need to be at the top 3% of PSLE or their parents will need to pay the full fees in an independent IP school ?

No need. If you retain your GEP status, you're awarded EESIS, regardless of whether you're top 3% or not.