DSA 2011

[verykiasu2010]

tsh0202:

ngbrdad:

[quote=\"tsh0202\"]That's what the P, Dr Hon, said this morning at the Parent's Symposium. It just started this year.

Can elaborate ?
What symposium was that ?

It's the HCI DSA Parent's Symposium for those with CO/WL. Even though it's a presentation (by the JC1/2 students) cum Q & A sessions, it's more like a parenting workshop. One of the parents invited for the dialogue session was Mdm Heng, the P of NYGH.
There are 450 vacancies for HCI Sec 1 in 2012. Among these, 225 were given CO and 140 on WL. For the first 50% on the WL, if they put HCI as first choice, they'll be guaranteed a place in HCI. Dr Hon told the parents that since HCI is an independent school, the P has the autonomy to decide for 40 places.[/quote]if the first 70 of the 140 on the WL is guaranteed a place, then why be WL, why not straight away give the CO - then more will accept?! I know a few last year were on WL and preferred to opt for CO even from second choice school - a WL is a WL without assurance

Mdm Heng was there as P of NYGH or was she there because he DS is entering / already in HCI ?

[Snow Crystal]

verykiasu2010:

if the first 70 of the 140 on the WL is guaranteed a place, then why be WL, why not straight away give the CO - then more will accept?! I know a few last year were on WL and preferred to opt for CO even from second choice school - a WL is a WL without assurance

In a previous DSA briefing I attended, the P of the IP mentioned that MOE only allows up to 50% of IP vacancies to be offered as CO. The P mentioned that their wish is also to offer more COs but can't do so due to MOE rule :frustrated: To me, the promise to those with WLs that they will become confirmed seats if the kids put the school as first choice is such a good deal :imcool: And it's such a clever strategy on the part of the schools. Win-win :grphug: Don't remember past years have such promise. But on the other hand, my personal observation is - based on historical trend, quite a number of kids must have rejected COs of the schools which can make such promise. Haha my own view only pls don't flame me :pokeeye: Btw the R family schools did not make such similar promise right :evil:

[verykiasu2010]

Snow Crystal:

verykiasu2010:

if the first 70 of the 140 on the WL is guaranteed a place, then why be WL, why not straight away give the CO - then more will accept?! I know a few last year were on WL and preferred to opt for CO even from second choice school - a WL is a WL without assurance

In a previous DSA briefing I attended, the P of the IP mentioned that MOE only allows up to 50% of IP vacancies to be offered as CO. The P mentioned that their wish is also to offer more COs but can't do so due to MOE rule :frustrated: To me, the promise to those with WLs that they will become confirmed seats if the kids put the school as first choice is such a good deal :imcool: And it's such a clever strategy on the part of the schools. Win-win :grphug: Don't remember past years have such promise. But on the other hand, my personal observation is - based on historical trend, quite a number of kids must have rejected COs of the schools which can make such promise. Haha my own view only pls don't flame me :pokeeye: Btw the R family schools did not make such similar promise right :evil:

actually as independent schools with IP, they have 100% discretion is admission decision, not 50%. eg NUSH admission is 100% on DSA, they don't take part in S1 posting

[verykiasu2010]

How much discretion will the Sec Schools have for 2011 DSA-Sec Exercise?


Type of School \tDiscretionary Places

Schools with Integrated Programme (IP) or Specialised Independent Schools (viz. NUSHS, SOTA, SST) \tUp to 100%

Independent Schools (without IP) \t20%
Autonomous Schools (without IP) \t10%
Niche Programme Schools \t5%

Last year, all the IP schools admitted up to only 50% of the Secondary One places through the DSA-Sec Exercise. This year, we expect a similar proportion of places to be available for the centralised posting. NUSHS, SST and SOTA do not participate in the centralised posting.

http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/admissions/dsa-sec/faqs/#discretion

[Snow Crystal]

Yes by right they have 100% discretion. So I was surprised by what the P of the IP said iro 50% rule. From the horse's mouth. And true enough, if you look ard, so far you see the IPs participating in S1 offering up to 50% of vacancies for DSA COs. For those IPs not participating in S1 eg NUSH, they are offering most of their vacancies during DSA. Maybe the 50% rule stands for the IPs participating in S1?

[verykiasu2010]

Snow Crystal:

Yes by right they have 100% discretion. So I was surprised by what the P of the IP said iro 50% rule. From the horse's mouth. And true enough, if you look ard, so far you see the IPs participating in S1 offering up to 50% of vacancies for DSA COs. For those IPs not participating in S1 eg NUSH, they are offering most of their vacancies during DSA. Maybe the 50% rule stands for the IPs participating in S1?

Basically if the IP schools wish to, they could if they want - offer 100% at DSA. They only offer 50% at DSA - just in case some offers made were not as good, and also don't want to miss out some high flyers who don't do DSA, and don't want to be accused by parents of giving everything away at DSA

50% is also discretionary. each IP school writes their own \"rules\"

[phankao]

Snow Crystal:

To me, the promise to those with WLs that they will become confirmed seats if the kids put the school as first choice is such a good deal :imcool: And it's such a clever strategy on the part of the schools. Win-win :grphug: Don't remember past years have such promise.

Previous years' DSA exercises, there was already this promise. That those in WL group 1 would all definitely get a confirmed place in HCI as long as they put HCI as 1st choice in their preference form. I know this to be the case at least in the 2008 p6 batch already.

[TwaTau]

verykiasu2010:

Mdm Heng was there as P of NYGH or was she there because he DS is entering / already in HCI ?

She was there as a parent, one or both of her children studied there.

[vlim]

I have submitted the DSA school preference via Internet system liao.. ....Hope they received it :xedfingers: ..

[Intermezzo]

wow.. that's fast..

dun worry vlim. yours is probably the first one MOE receives.
they should give you an early bird prize!
yet to do mine.. must double double confirm with dd which one she wants kekeke..