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Dont be too quick to dismiss MTL as it can be your lifesaver if you screw up your GP, as was the case for my relative. She went out of point for her GP essay (she believed so) and scored a C6, but fortunately her ‘AO’ MTL was an A1 (she did it in her SAP sch) and coupled with 3 decent H2 grades, she managed to limp into FASS.


If you intend to just take 3 H2 subjects in JC (i.e no worst 4th H2 subject to be used for computing your ‘H1’ rank point), you’d better ace that MTL before JC1.

[jtoh]

mommyNg:

jtoh:

I think you need a full cert to apply for uni, which is 2 H2 passes + a GP pass?

According to floppy's reference to MOE website:

The six Autonomous Universities conduct separate admission exercises as guided by the following broad university admission framework for ‘A‘ Level graduates:

- Minimum application criteria: 2 H2 passes, an attempt at General Paper (or Knowledge and Inquiry) taken at the same sitting, and a sub-pass in a Mother Tongue Language (MTL).
- A minimum MTL proficiency is required (‘S’ grade in H1 MTL or pass in MTL ‘B’ or D7 in GCE ‘O’ Level HMTL). Students who do not obtain a sub-pass for MTL under the current ‘A’ level curriculum can be granted provisional admission but must meet the universities' MTL minimum requirement (by taking MTL classes) sometime before they graduate.
- Grades for the following subjects will be considered for admission: 3 H2 and 1 H1 content-based subjects (at least one of which must be from a contrasting discipline), GP (or KI), PW. Students who score well may also have their MTL grades taken into consideration for admission.
- Additional faculty admission criteria such as interviews or aptitude tests
- Co-Curricular Activity (CCA) performance (considered qualitatively)

So now as long as have taken GP is ok already....

Thanks. Interesting that the criteria for MTL is more stringent than GP. You need to have a sub-pass in MTL but can fail GP.

[floppy]

.zeit:

Dont be too quick to dismiss MTL as it can be your lifesaver if you screw up your GP, as was the case for my relative. She went out of point for her GP essay (she believed so) and scored a C6, but fortunately her 'AO' MTL was an A1 (she did it in her SAP sch) and coupled with 3 decent H2 grades, she managed to limp into FASS.


If you intend to just take 3 H2 subjects in JC (i.e no worst 4th H2 subject to be used for computing your 'H1' rank point), you'd better ace that MTL before JC1.

Since you refer to 'AO', I'm going to tell you it's history already :rotflmao:

If you refer to mommyNG points for UAS, 3H2 + 1H1 + GP + PW = 90 points (max).
If you want to include H1 MTL, max UAS is 100 points (the above + H1 MTL). However, 100 points will be rebased to 90 points as the final score for university application.
The university will take whichever score is higher.

Including a high scoring H1 MTL sounds great in principle but to MAKE a difference, you have to royally screwed up the other subjects and ace your H1 MTL (but what’s the point of that?).
e.g. in your relative's results of GP - C, H1 MTL - A, the difference between including or excluding H1 MTL is only 1 to 2 points for her UAS. That's unlikely to make or break her application today.

[mommyNg]

floppy:

Since you refer to 'AO', I'm going to tell you it's history already :rotflmao:

You can't substitute H1 GP (or KI) with H1 MTL.
If you refer to mommyNG points for UAS, 3H2 + 1H1 + GP + PW = 90 points (max).
If you want to include H1 MTL, max UAS is 100 points (the above + H1 MTL). However, 100 points will be rebased to 90 points as the final score for university application.
The university will take whichever is higher.

Including a high scoring H1 MTL sounds great in principle but to MAKE a difference, you have to royally screwed up GP and ace your H1 MTL (even that may not make much of a difference).
e.g. in your relative's results of GP - C, H1 MTL - A, the difference between including or excluding H1 MTL is only 1 to 2 points for her UAS. That's unlikely to make or break her application today.

So for example, if 3H2 + 1 H1 content subject + PW all A, but GP ungraded = 0 and HMT is A = 10.
1. 20 + 20 + 20 + 10 + 10 + 0 = 80 (out of 90). So UAS without HMT = 80
2. 20 + 20 + 20 + 10 + 10 + 0 + 10 = 90 (out of 100), which will be rebased to 90/100*90 = 81. So UAS including HMT = 81

The difference is only 1 point for UAS. Is my calculation correct?

[floppy]

mommyNg:

So for example, if 3H2 + 1 H1 content subject + PW all A, but GP ungraded = 0 and HMT is A = 10.
1. 20 + 20 + 20 + 10 + 10 + 0 = 80 (out of 90). So UAS without HMT = 80
2. 20 + 20 + 20 + 10 + 10 + 0 + 10 = 90 (out of 100), which will be rebased to 90/100*90 = 81. So UAS including HMT = 81

The difference is only 1 point for UAS. Is my calculation correct?

Yes. That is correct.

Assuming a ABC/C + C +
UAS = 75 / 90
With A in H1 MTL, UAS = 85 / 100 or 76.5 / 90
Less than 2 points difference.

Assuming a CCC/C + C + C (got course available?):
UAS = 67.5 / 90
With A in H1 MTL, UAS = 77.5 / 100 or 69.75
Slightly more than 2 points difference.

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[mommyNg]

:thankyou:

[jojojoba]

Do I stand a chance to get into jpjc?? Will my appeal be considered most favourably? Please help me!!


I got nett 11 for o’s but I kinda messed up with my jae choices so I didn’t get into any of the schools I had in my mind and was posted to yijc.

I live in the west and yijc is not in my vicinity. The traveling time is 1h ++ and I am really desperate to appeal into other jc that is nearer to my house.

I appealed to transfer to jpjc on the day of release of jc posting result and I think I was the 26th person to appeal.

Jpjc’s cop is 15, which is higher than my raw l1r5 of 13 and nett of 11. However, jpjc was not one of my 12 choices. Hence, I’m really worried that I may not be able to make it.

Will I still get into jc if my portfolio n l1r5 are good even though I didn’t place the school as one of the 12 choices??

Thank you for reading and I really appreciate your help!

[floppy]

sky minecrafter:

mommyNg:

Whether or not need to pass GP depends on the Uni and faculty you are applying? For example, you won't expect to be eligible for Law if you fail GP....Don't think need to pass GP if going to Science or Engineering Faculty?

Yes, happened to a relative (rjc). Everything was good but GP could not make it - so Medicine+Law out, entered Accountancy.

My GP - C5. Not sure what happened there
Law is out. Med is out (didn't do triple science, couldn't make it even I tried).

Luckily, manage to clear the Qualifying English Test and exempted from taking those dreaded extra English modules.

P/S: Nowadays, exemption from QET seems easier:
General Paper ('AO' Level GP) - B4 and above or
General Paper (H1 Level GP) - C and above or
Knowledge Inquiry (KI) - D and above

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