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[lovekids22]

Guess different schools different standards of comparing

Joashhyy\" post_id=\"2015284\" time=\"1613742258\" user_id=\"191467:

lovekids22\" post_id=\"2015270\" time=\"1613736523\" user_id=\"101621:[quote=lovekids22 post_id=2015270 time=1613736523 user_id=101621]Using median might not be accurate, see the link attached.

Above Link is theory only.
Still can compare different JCs using Medium score.
Unless compare JC A with Median score to JC B with Mean score, then not accurate.
More JCs have started using Median score based on A level performance since last year or longer.

Ny Median is 86, so cant use Median?
We must embrace the new norm of using Median score.


















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[phtthp]

Joashhyy\" post_id=\"2015231\" time=\"1613718622\" user_id=\"191467:

Do update yourself.
In this new norm, know the 3As

From sharing by J3 students in another forum ( Mean or Medium)
RI mean 84.5
HCI mean 85

Ny Medium 86
Vjc Medium 85
Ejc Medium 85

Dhs mean 80.4
Tjc mean 81.
Acjc mean 79.9

Let's examine the figures (above), in greater detail.


Since Nanyang Junior College can only supply their \"Median\" figure, but not their \"Mean\",


going by their \"Median\" (Not \"Medium\") statistics which Joashhyy had supplied above,

is it right or wrong (stating reasons) for one to conclude that,

for 2020 A-level batch (born 2002) :

1)

Nanyang JC
(Non-IP, entirely purely JAE students admitted ) cohort with her Median at 86

actually performed better

than these two IP-JCs cohort from (Eunoia and Victoria) JC, both with the same Median, 85 ?

2)

Eunoia JC is actually on par now, with Victoria JC, both with the same Median 85 ?


3) Temasek JC, with her mean 81,

- performed better than Dunman High, with mean 80.4, and

- TJC also performed better than ACJC, with mean 79.9 ?


(above questions are posed, based on the assumption that statistics above provided by Joashhyy, are Accurate)

[lee_yl]

How about National JC?


The difference between 85 and 86 is not great, minimal almost. In fact, the difference could be down to decimals.

NY has done well to get such scores as her students will get into universities and likely courses of their choice. But I think if one were to compare NY to the top schools in terms of number of scholarship holders, this may show up as an area of relative weakness as most of NY students would’ve taken 3 H2 subjects and not 4 H2 with 1-2 H3 subjects.

[MMM]

No offense but I wonder at the value of JC comparison. I have a child who went VJC and graduated with perfect As. Another child who just graduated from ASRJC and did 82.5.


I also had friends whose dc went to jurong pioneer and Yishun innova JC and did 88.75 so my conclusion is, it is about the Individual drive to do well. All JCs will enable our child to do well for A levels if they are driven. Just my personal opinion and hope it gives hope to others whose kids are not in “top tier” JC. It doesn’t matter…

[Imp75]

Back to JC schools discussion. I am not vested cos my dd is in hci. In relation to nyjc results, I am not surprised that the sch generally performed well. I did an informal poll amongst the young I know. Other than R/H, the second choice sch is nyjc. So those who couldn’t get into R/H are posted to nyjc and we are talking about 6-8 raw pointers here. Even O level students from SNGS or CHS i know prefers Nyjc than EJC. I don’t know why but nyjc has been very successful in attracting the young. It is no surprise other than the H/R schools, nyjc can produce stellar results.

[newbieks]

For RI, HCI, what is the % of students doing 4H2? Is it like majority (80-90%) of the cohort?


I know there are internal requirement for year 4 results for students to be able to do 4H2 when the go RI or HCI. How about those who enter through JAE posting? What is the requirement to do 4 H2 when they enter RI or HCI?

Thanks for sharing

[Imp75]

newbieks\" post_id=\"2015333\" time=\"1613793695\" user_id=\"178749:

For RI, HCI, what is the % of students doing 4H2? Is it like majority (80-90%) of the cohort?

I know there are internal requirement for year 4 results for students to be able to do 4H2 when the go RI or HCI. How about those who enter through JAE posting? What is the requirement to do 4 H2 when they enter RI or HCI?

Thanks for sharing

Yes there is internal requirements for nygh (i think same for hci) to do 4H2=min msg2.5. For JAE, since they enter with raw 6-8 almost all subjects are distinction so easily msg below 2 so I don't there are any requirements.

[SG_KP1]

Following from afar, but I generally agree with the comments that all of these numbers are so close to each other that your child’s performance is most important. You cannot apply to university with the cohort’s average score! Moreover, you need to find the JC that has the subject combinations you want.


That being said, I do wonder whether:

a) JAE COP and perceived A Level performance will ever flow back to the S1 posting exercise?

b) Does the L1R5 score keep the O-Level kids sharp in the "contrasting" subject? For IP, it may be easy to let the difficult/unliked subject slide a bit. You can take a lower grade in one or two subjects and focus on what you like to do (including non-academic) while still clearing promotion criteria. But if the weaker subject is contrasting, this will show up more in the A Level results (cannot avoid it). In comparison, those shooting for 6 points (gross) were forced to master at least one subject in each of the science and arts stream. Even you didn’t score 6 points (gross), the mindset is a bit different and you may have been just a few points away. Again, we are talking minor differences here but if all of the top O-Level kids are focused on three schools on the margin I can see how it may make a difference.

[Joashhyy]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2015324\" time=\"1613788646\" user_id=\"35251:

Joashhyy\" post_id=\"2015231\" time=\"1613718622\" user_id=\"191467:

Do update yourself.
In this new norm, know the 3As

From sharing by J3 students in another forum ( Mean or Medium)
RI mean 84.5
HCI mean 85

Ny Medium 86
Vjc Medium 85
Ejc Medium 85

Dhs mean 80.4
Tjc mean 81.
Acjc mean 79.9

Let's examine the figures (above), in greater detail.


Since Nanyang Junior College can only supply their \"Median\" figure, but not their \"Mean\",


going by their \"Median\" (Not \"Medium\") statistics which Joashhyy had supplied above,

is it right or wrong (stating reasons) for one to conclude that,

for 2020 A-level batch (born 2002) :

1)

Nanyang JC
(Non-IP, entirely purely JAE students admitted ) cohort with her Median at 86

actually performed better

than these two IP-JCs cohort from (Eunoia and Victoria) JC, both with the same Median, 85 ?

2)

Eunoia JC is actually on par now, with Victoria JC, both with the same Median 85 ?


3) Temasek JC, with her mean 81,

- performed better than Dunman High, with mean 80.4, and

- TJC also performed better than ACJC, with mean 79.9 ?


(above questions are posed, based on the assumption that statistics above provided by Joashhyy, are Accurate)

JC Performance:
1) HCI
2) RI
3) NYJC
4) EJC
4) VJC
6) NJC ( Median 83 )
7) TJC
DHS
9) ACJC
10) RVHS

Top 5 JCs:
HCI
RI
NYJC
EJC, VJC

[stetan]

Joashhyy\" post_id=\"2015403\" time=\"1613825202\" user_id=\"191467:

JC Performance:
1) HCI
2) RI
3) NYJC
4) EJC
4) VJC
6) NJC ( Median 83 )
7) TJC
DHS
9) ACJC
10) RVHS

Top 5 JCs:
HCI
RI
NYJC
EJC, VJC

Not sure why year after year, these people will come and compare NYJC with the other JCs? Do you guys have an inferiority complex so that by doing this you feel that you are better than others?

Your analysis basing on just UAS mean/median rank points is so simplistic. To properly gauged a JC's performance, you would also have to consider other statistics ( which most of the top JCs share except NYJC who remain very secretive on this )

eg
Number of students that got perfect score of 90
Number of students that got A's in each subject
Number of students doing 4H2
Number of students doing H3
Number of students getting 9, 8 and 7 distinctions
Number of students having scholarshops e.g

VJC has a total 5 President scholars. NYJC =0 (even though NYJC has a much longer history than VJC)
NYJC has only 6 PSC scholars in its 40+ years of existence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanyang_Junior_College) . EJC in her first year has already 3 PSC scholars. That's half of NYJC entire 40 years quota.

I can go on and on...but you should get the point.