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    DSA 2017

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • H Offline
      hojicha
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      Missed to mention also … WL if offered will be made known on PSLE results day. Most schools will not call to chase parents decision’s if any CO’s be turned down before 31-Aug. So, all WLs will have to hang in there, focus PSLE! All the best to us … WLs!

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        mengsan
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        Estéema:

        If anyone hv CO & WL, yr selection of WL as first choice will not cause you to loose yr CO. That's the easier one to make decision if child like both schools.
        Is this confirmed? I thought the default is always if you put CO sch 2nd, then someone who put 1st choice will always be considered first, even if they are WL. If what u said is true, then it makes my dd decision so straight forward.
        Think again this is so unfair to 1st choice WL sch as you are just trying your luck, by right you shd lose the priority for the CO sch

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          Snsn
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          Estéema:
          momresource:

          Hi,

          Need advice on 2 waiting list.

          Sch A
          WL number revealed to parents, school said if you put in 1st choice, Good chance of getting in.

          Sch B
          WL number not revealed. Very small dsa number. Child preferred school

          If we put in
          1. Sch B
          2. Sch A

          If #1 not converted to CO, then we will lose the WL for sch A?

          How does 2 WLs work?

          If Sch A is yr child's dream school, put it as 1st owise indeed u'll loose the chance for conversion.

          I cannot assess Sch B bcoz the sch did not indicate to you chances. But since both WL, Sch A better chance, unless yr child not interested in Sch A.

          If no interest in sch A, then work hard for PSLE for sch A.

          If anyone hv CO & WL, yr selection of WL as first choice will not cause you to loose yr CO. That's the easier one to make decision if child like both schools.

          Hi Esteema, can I clarify if you mean that the sequence of choice if all are WL will have an impact on posting? Cos I read this on MOE website and I'm abit confused. It says that the allocation will be done based on the school's waiting list ranking and not on the student's order of choice. Thanks for your help on this
          http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/MOE/mobile/index.aspx#Detaildoc/59414

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          • EstéemaE Offline
            Estéema
            last edited by

            mengsan:
            Ok thanks understand what u mean now.

            I believe only a small % in a cohort is IP, the bulk of the students who are affiliated still get in with much lower score and end up singing the same school song for at least 4 years, IP or no IP will in no time become good friends. My point: is it worth the hassle to joint such affiliated school , are they being over hype in a way simply becos they have long history n strong alumni ?
            For us we've got affiliation & will participate not for any other reasons but for its strong culture & there is value in strong alumni. The bond in the alumni family alr built fr Pri sch.

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              Estéema
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              Snsn:
              Estéema:

              [quote=\"momresource\"]Hi,

              Need advice on 2 waiting list.

              Sch A
              WL number revealed to parents, school said if you put in 1st choice, Good chance of getting in.

              Sch B
              WL number not revealed. Very small dsa number. Child preferred school

              If we put in
              1. Sch B
              2. Sch A

              If #1 not converted to CO, then we will lose the WL for sch A?

              How does 2 WLs work?

              If Sch A is yr child's dream school, put it as 1st owise indeed u'll loose the chance for conversion.

              I cannot assess Sch B bcoz the sch did not indicate to you chances. But since both WL, Sch A better chance, unless yr child not interested in Sch A.

              If no interest in sch A, then work hard for PSLE for sch A.

              If anyone hv CO & WL, yr selection of WL as first choice will not cause you to loose yr CO. That's the easier one to make decision if child like both schools.

              Hi Esteema, can I clarify if you mean that the sequence of choice if all are WL will have an impact on posting? Cos I read this on MOE website and I'm abit confused. It says that the allocation will be done based on the school's waiting list ranking and not on the student's order of choice. Thanks for your help on this
              http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/MOE/mobile/index.aspx#Detaildoc/59414[/quote]
              Without details of yr choice & its bkgrd e.g. whether affiliated sch, appln is IP or Express, etc. Everything else equal, I'm only looking at the sch that indicated to u \"number\" of WL places, and the sch alr indicated to you \"good chance of getting in\". As I say, only if sch A is yr child's choice.

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                Snsn
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                Estéema:
                Snsn:

                [quote=\"Estéema\"]Hi,

                Need advice on 2 waiting list.

                Sch A
                WL number revealed to parents, school said if you put in 1st choice, Good chance of getting in.

                Sch B
                WL number not revealed. Very small dsa number. Child preferred school

                If we put in
                1. Sch B
                2. Sch A

                If #1 not converted to CO, then we will lose the WL for sch A?

                How does 2 WLs work?

                If Sch A is yr child's dream school, put it as 1st owise indeed u'll loose the chance for conversion.

                I cannot assess Sch B bcoz the sch did not indicate to you chances. But since both WL, Sch A better chance, unless yr child not interested in Sch A.

                If no interest in sch A, then work hard for PSLE for sch A.

                If anyone hv CO & WL, yr selection of WL as first choice will not cause you to loose yr CO. That's the easier one to make decision if child like both schools.

                Hi Esteema, can I clarify if you mean that the sequence of choice if all are WL will have an impact on posting? Cos I read this on MOE website and I'm abit confused. It says that the allocation will be done based on the school's waiting list ranking and not on the student's order of choice. Thanks for your help on this
                http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/MOE/mobile/index.aspx#Detaildoc/59414


                Without details of yr choice & its bkgrd e.g. whether affiliated sch, appln is IP or Express, etc. Everything else equal, I'm only looking at the sch that indicated to u \"number\" of WL places, and the sch alr indicated to you \"good chance of getting in\". As I say, only if sch A is yr child's choice.[/quote]Thanks for your explanation Esteema, much appreciated. Assuming both WL are for non affiliated IP routes, with no indication on available spaces - would it mean that if I don't get into choice #1, then I would still stand a chance in choice #2 school based on their ranking of my application, and not the sequence of my choice. Is this the correct interpretation. TIA as always.

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                • EstéemaE Offline
                  Estéema
                  last edited by

                  mengsan:
                  Estéema:


                  If anyone hv CO & WL, yr selection of WL as first choice will not cause you to loose yr CO. That's the easier one to make decision if child like both schools.

                  Is this confirmed? I thought the default is always if you put CO sch 2nd, then someone who put 1st choice will always be considered first, even if they are WL. If what u said is true, then it makes my dd decision so straight forward.
                  Think again this is so unfair to 1st choice WL sch as you are just trying your luck, by right you shd lose the priority for the CO sch

                  All COs, as it's name suggest - Confirmed. If u select WL as first choice for some reason of child's preference, etc, and still no place in the sch u have WL, you WILL NOT loose your CO.

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                  • EstéemaE Offline
                    Estéema
                    last edited by

                    Not unfair bcoz WL depends whether after all CO accepted anyone release. If no places released or few places offered to WL in queue and u are down the line, no chance to convert WL. But yr CO remains. You cannot participate in S1 posting thereafter once u exercised yr Options Form.

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                      Snsn
                      last edited by

                      Estéema:
                      Not unfair bcoz WL depends whether after all CO accepted anyone release. If no places released or few places offered to WL in queue and u are down the line, no chance to convert WL. But yr CO remains. You cannot participate in S1 posting thereafter once u exercised yr Options Form.

                      Agree. If a child has a CO, he/she earned it. However that school may not be their first choice, and if their first choice is one that they are on WL, they may want to try that as first choice, and the CO as 2nd choice would be their \"guaranteed\" option.

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                      • EstéemaE Offline
                        Estéema
                        last edited by

                        Snsn:
                        Estéema:

                        [quote=\"momresource\"]Hi,

                        Need advice on 2 waiting list.

                        Sch A
                        WL number revealed to parents, school said if you put in 1st choice, Good chance of getting in.

                        Sch B
                        WL number not revealed. Very small dsa number. Child preferred school

                        If we put in
                        1. Sch B
                        2. Sch A

                        If #1 not converted to CO, then we will lose the WL for sch A?

                        How does 2 WLs work?

                        If Sch A is yr child's dream school, put it as 1st owise indeed u'll loose the chance for conversion.

                        I cannot assess Sch B bcoz the sch did not indicate to you chances. But since both WL, Sch A better chance, unless yr child not interested in Sch A.

                        If no interest in sch A, then work hard for PSLE for sch A.

                        If anyone hv CO & WL, yr selection of WL as first choice will not cause you to loose yr CO. That's the easier one to make decision if child like both schools.

                        Hi Esteema, can I clarify if you mean that the sequence of choice if all are WL will have an impact on posting? Cos I read this on MOE website and I'm abit confused. It says that the allocation will be done based on the school's waiting list ranking and not on the student's order of choice. Thanks for your help on this
                        http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/MOE/mobile/index.aspx#Detaildoc/59414[/quote]
                        Hi Snsn,

                        It will be based on MOE's queue & beyond each school's ability to help any student to convert.

                        The strategy to put a WL list before a CO or a preferred WL over ano not preferred WL is to hopefully hv the 1st choice WL get converted as applicant put this as top choice and not 2nd line consideration.

                        For a case with CO & WL, it's very clear to try put WL ahead as 1st choice in the event someone did release a place & u're next in the queue. But for others WL as 2nd choice, unless still hv places & not hot after, may be converted.

                        Option Form Scenario 1
                        1. WL School A
                        2. CO School B

                        Option Form Scenario 2
                        1. WL School B
                        2. WL School A

                        Candidate's choice of WL for School B slimmer chance.
                        Candidate's choice of WL for School A Higher chance for conversion, failing which CO is at hand to kick in.

                        If School A is not child's choice School, we will advise our child to focus & work hard towards PSLE to get in choice if School.

                        *. This not taking into consideration other factors of IP vs Express course, sort after CCA, etc.

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