mongz:

drickymummy,

thanks for sharing on Dr Wong.

Dear interested mummies,
Just an update on my girl visiting Herbal Basic. She saw Chen yi shi for the 4th time on Sunday and supposed to go for further treatment 3 times this week. We also queried about the package which will cost about $1400 for 3 months. We will get the nose spa machine and the herbal mix to steam for her 2 times a day. The package is actually cheaper in the long run but we are not very sure how effective if this treatment. After talking to my SIL whose son has been seeing a dr in EYS at Bt Batok, we decided to try EYS before deciding if we should cont to go Herbal.
Any idea if Foo Shern Fatt yi shi or Qi Xiao Yan yi shi at EYS is better?

Hi Mongz,

Don't mind please share your experience at EYS, would like to know how EYS treat your girl's rhinitis, is it with oral medication or using external therapy? and how's their charges like?

Thanks for sharing.

A friend ever told me that turtle soup is a good remedy for cough, whenever his children have cough, he will let them drink turtle soup and it has worked well for them.


Unfortunately, I’ve never tried that before due to "religion" reason, therefore didn’t really know how’s the effect. Have anybody tried that before? Please share your experience.

fatmommy:

My son is always having stubborn cough n block nose throughout the year. See PD many times but never seem to cure. Any good TCM to recommend?

Hi,

Through my experience, stubborn cough with blocked nose in most cases may be caused by post nasal drip, whereby the root of the problem lies with the nose. You may want to try out Herbal-Basic TCM at Havelock Road, as they are quite specialized in treating nose problems.

My 2 kids used to suffer from this, but after few treatments (external therapy with no oral medication), they recovered well.

Their fee is quite reasonable, range between $30+ to $40+ per treatment.

Hope this helps.

chillyred:

Felizbebe,

I bet you must have taken a couple of hours to share your view.
This is quite a long and thought out reply, which I find it amazing that u take such great effort to rebut on my comment, which was simply a feedback from couple of friends who had apparently patronised Herbal Basic TCM.

This forum is meant to share experience and it is not a judgement of their service or capability. Neither is it a flatform to argue about ones opinion on a service one experienced. Surely there are other feedback, either good or bad. Regardless, it doesn't require such an over reaction from you, someone who is only a patron and perhaps have had a good experience at Herbal Basic TCM. I wish you well.

Chillyred,

If only you didn’t mention me in your post, I probably would not have said a word to it, as I do believe everybody is free to express their view or share their experience on this forum, but not to attack one another.

I was merely reciprocating to your long and nasty writing, as I found it hard to understand your over-reaction to condemn the clinic, simply because your friends find it expensive or can’t afford it.

Anyway, I wish you and your friends well, and hope they have found themselves a cheaper and better TCM clinic. I shall look forward to you sharing your friends’ experience at the other clinic.

chillyred:

sassypink:

Hi Felixbebe


I chanced upon this forum and read with great interest of your sharing of nose spa therapy. My kids encounter sensitive nose since young, thus I am keen to find out more about this treatment.

Understand from western doctor, frequent drinking or eating of hot drinks and food will hurt the throat thus might lead to cancer. With the frequent usage of this nose spa which requires steaming (temperature), does it hurt the nose eventually?

Also, is the medication used is HSA certified?

Sorry that if you happened to receive this mail more then once, as i don't seem to be able to submit my enquiry previously.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Hi,
I'm a regular in kiasuparents and has been reading all posting in this topic
Since someone up there mention about HSA, I would like to say something.

Btw, i has been seeing felizbebe and lilytan keep answering questions post by others. Just curious, is both of you some how related to Herbal Basic TCM? Base on the way both of you reply is very profession and detailed. It really makes me ponder.

Both of you mention that Nose Spa is good and give them a thumb up. If is really that good, why don't they introduce it to Singapore PD and Singapore Hospital? As you know, Singapore government starts to accept and recognise TCM treatment. Like NUH, there is a TCM, SGH and TTS also have TCM. They should publicize it and introduce it to all Singaporean. Since more than 50% of Singaporean has allergic rhinitis problem.

Here comes the charges...I have a few friends visited Herbal Basic TCM. They told me that their charges is very high and in order to treat the allergy the physician suggest to them to take treatment package. And their package is thousand over $$. Also, without package, per treatment is also expensive. Further more the xiao er tui na is not done by the physician yet they still charge so high compare to other TCM.

For those who bring their kids to Herbal Basic TCM, don't you find it expensive?? And can they guarantee that after the whole treatment, the allergic will not occur? If they can't guarantee, isn't it the same as taking chinese herbs? And chinese herbs is not costly. I have two kids age 7 and 4. They have allergic rhinitis as well and theirs condition is under controlled. Further more they don't have to take the chinese herb everyday. Just when their nose feel itch and sneezing, i will give them the chinese herbs. Is so simple.

Hey Chillyred,

First of all, how dare you insult my integrity! The whole idea of this forum is to share with one another our experience, ideas and good tips on health care, I don’t think I deserve to be bad mouth by you.

Secondly, I doubt that you are really a regular in Kiasu parents as I’ve never seen any of your posting before, in fact you’ve just joined in on Nov 2 and made this one and only post 4 hours later. Also, if you are a regular, you should know that there has been at least 6 or more peoples giving good feedbacks on Herbal-Basic Clinic, not just me and “lilytan” alone like you said.

Let me clarify, I’m not related to Herbal Basic but I’m thankful to Dr Tan for curing my two kids and I like their service & attitude, therefore I don’t mind help to promote them whenever I can. You, on the other hand, made such a hostile post on them, it makes me wonder could it be you are their competitor trying to sabotage their business, or perhaps you had some conflicts with them before? Is that why you are here to vent your anger on them?! However, by the sound of your posting, it also seems that you may not have been there before, but just simply based on the hearsay from your friends. Your motive is indeed very suspicious….

Like many other parents, I was also quite skeptical about TCM in the past, until I was desperate as my two children were falling sick every other months and medications such as anti-biotic, zyrtec, singulair, etc etc didn’t seems to help much, that’s where I began to explore alternative treatments such as TCM. A friend of mine then introduced me to Herbal Basic Clinic, and within 3 months I saw a big improvement on their health condition. I was so impressed with it and that’s why I’m for this clinic, it’s that simple!!

After visiting the clinic for almost a year on regular basis, there’s no doubt that I have good knowledge on their treatments and have learned quite a bit about TCM. Plus I have picked up the interest to read more on TCM therapies and Chinese herbs, maybe that’s why you thought I sound “professional”, but you were wrong, I was probably just a little bit more knowledgeable in this aspect than you, that’s all.

Btw, may I know how do you define “expensive”? as this term is very subjective depending on one’s affordability. At Herbal Basic, they charge between $25 to $28 per session for xiao er tuina, and between $13 to $20 per session for the herbal nose spa, is that really so “expensive” like you said? Why are you trying to project the wrong impression that only high income group can afford to go there? To me and I’m sure many others too, such charges are considered reasonable by Singapore standard, well if that’s something you can’t afford, you are free to go elsewhere, but I don’t think it’s ethical for you to condemn them on no basis. I leave this to the readers of this forum to justify if your accusation was right!

Please read the post made by “Healthyy” on Sep 26, she said that she has completed the full 4 months treatment for rhinitis at Herbal Basic Clinic for a year now and there’s no relapse of her rhinitis. Isn’t that a very good testimonial to demonstrate the efficacy of the treatment? Btw, which western doctor or ENT specialist will guarantee you that there will be no relapse after their treatment (even though their fee can be 10 times higher)? If you know of any, please recommend to the readers of this forum.

Nevertheless, you mentioned that you have a good way to treat your children’s allergic rhinitis with “not costly” Chinese herbs, I believe this will be a great news to most desperate parents like what I once was, so please reveal the recipe to the readers of this forum and let everybody benefit from it! Since you also said that 50% of our population suffers from allergic rhinitis, so if your “not costly” and “simple” method really works, it will be of great help to our nation and I’m sure MOH will welcome your suggestion!

As matured adults, we welcome constructive ideas and suggestions, but please do not turn this forum into your personal place to vent your anger and worst still, a battle field for the readers.



Hi sassypink,

As you can see, I'm being accused by \"chillyred\" for being \"related to\" Herbal Basic Clinic, therefore I'm afraid it's not very convenient now for me to answer to your questions about the clinic, so I suggest you should contact the clinic yourself and ask them directly, I'm sure you will find a satisfactory answer.

kitty2:

felizbebe:

A friend from the Pharmaceutical industry once told me that the efficacies of some herbal medicines has improved by much today, due to technology advancement in the extraction & preparation technique, thus certain illnesses that were previously deemed as “incurable” by western medical definitions, may sometime receive unexpected results from herbal remedies. In my opinion, the Herbal Nose Spa treatment for Rhinitis is perhaps one good example.


My two daughters age 4 and 2.5 were both suffering from allergic rhinitis since young, I had to bring them to see PD every other months due to runny nose, sneeze, cough, respiratory tract infections, swelling tonsil, fever etc.; however, ever since I started the herbal nose spa therapy on them about one year ago, I’m amazed to see the big change in them, as they seldom fall sick anymore and all their allergic symptoms have pretty much reduced too.

I put my thumb up for Herbal Nose Spa, as it is really a good solution for my daughters' allergic rhinitis! Try it before you conclude that there's no cure...

Did you buy the Herbal Nose Spa instrument yourself and DIY?What kind of herbs you use?

Thanks for sharing

Hi Kitty2,

I started off with bringing my 2 kids to the clinic to do the herbal nose spa (together with xiao er tuina) for twice a week, then slowly reduced it to once a week. About 3 months later I bought the device and started doing it at home for my kids once every two weeks or so, but now they only need to do it as and when it's needed for \"maintenance\".

I didn't choose or mix the herbs myself, because the clinic I went to has their own proprietary herbal liquid formulations (I think they have 5 kinds of formulations for different purposes), so I just consulted the doctor and purchased the herbal liquid from the clinic, accordingly.

A friend from the Pharmaceutical industry once told me that the efficacies of some herbal medicines has improved by much today, due to technology advancement in the extraction & preparation technique, thus certain illnesses that were previously deemed as “incurable” by western medical definitions, may sometime receive unexpected results from herbal remedies. In my opinion, the Herbal Nose Spa treatment for Rhinitis is perhaps one good example.


My two daughters age 4 and 2.5 were both suffering from allergic rhinitis since young, I had to bring them to see PD every other months due to runny nose, sneeze, cough, respiratory tract infections, swelling tonsil, fever etc.; however, ever since I started the herbal nose spa therapy on them about one year ago, I’m amazed to see the big change in them, as they seldom fall sick anymore and all their allergic symptoms have pretty much reduced too.

I put my thumb up for Herbal Nose Spa, as it is really a good solution for my daughters’ allergic rhinitis! Try it before you conclude that there’s no cure…

Hi MyMooMoo,


Sorry to hear about your son's condition.

The best person who can diagnose if your son has Nasal Allergies or Rhinitis will be the ENT specialist, as normal PD or GP may not be familiar in that field. Likewise not all TCM are trained to diagnose and/or treat such illness.

Normally a person will have Flu & Cough when he catches cold or if he is being infected by flu virus. But if the flu-like symptoms appear repeatedly on regular basis, then most likely it's due to allergies or rhinitis instead of normal Cold & Flu. This is one way to differentiate it.

You mentioned that your son has just discharged from hospital and was given Singulair for 3 months, to what I know Singulair is used to prevent asthma attack and/or used to relieve symptoms of allergies. Thus I'm sure the doctor who prescribed the medicine probably should have told you whether your son is suffering from allergies or asthma.

It has been reported that Singulair may cause serious side effects such as aggressive behavior or hostility, bad or vivid dreams, depression, disorientation, feeling anxious, hallucinations, irritability, restlessness, sleepwalking, suicidal thoughts and actions, tremor, and trouble sleeping. I don't think that's good for young kid like your son, therefore you may want to consider other alternative or natural treatments.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, the TCM clinic @ Havelock road is quite well-known with their natural way in treating allergies and rhinitis, why don't you give it a try? Perhaps it will help your son recover faster without being over dependent on western medicines.

MyMooMoo:

Hi felizbebe,

Can I check with you how do we know if Ds is having Nasal Allergies or Rhinitis? Check with PD? or TCM will know?

Ds has this same cycle everytime. He will have flu, then cough then phlegm... then all mucus will turn yellow.. We bring him to PD.. 100% guarantee take antibiotics.. He just turned 2 and has taken 6x of antibiotics!!

Ds admitted to hospital for mycoplasma which causes him to have bronchitis. He was discharged on Wed but still need to be on neubiliser and antibiotics for 7 days and singulair for 3 months and stop school for 2 weeks. I cried so much in the hospital when see ds suffering.. Im really at wits end. Before the tuina take effect, he is so sick till have to admit into hospital. What else have I not done? Can someone enlighten me... He loves school and he loves his teachers. His teachers like him too. Does i really need to resort to keeping him at home and not letting him go school anymore till he is older?

There is no such thing as which TCM is the best, as I believe each clinic has its own area of specialties. Based on the experience on my 2 daughters, the TCM at Havelock is quite specialized in treating nasal allergies, as such if the persistent cough is caused by the back flow of nasal mucus, then perhaps they are a good option.

I know of a TCM clinic at Havelock road that provides herbal steaming therapy which is suppose to be very effective to eliminate inflammation for nose, throat, tonsil and upper respiratory tract. If you are looking for natural and non-invasive treatment for such problems for your kids, this might be a good option.