Ok, so everyone loves world peace and no one stand up to those obviously wrong teachings (not talking about different interpretations by different denominations).


The kingdom of God shrinks because a huge group of believers are, well, not believing in the right stuff. Doesn’t it matter to any Christians (church leaders or not)?

No Kidding:

sunflower:

[quote=\"DesertWind\"]What is prosperity?

John D. Rockefeller, was the world's richest man during his day and first American billionaire. When asked, “How much money is enough?” his answer was a very revealing “just a little bit more.”

[/quote]Is it possible that it was a candid reply and he said it in jest?

WeiHan:

patagonia:

Hmm.. 'head of household' is not head of church / temple / mosque.. It's the Top Guy up there.

God is portrayed as vicious and wrathful in the old testament but he is full of love in new testament.

Now I am intrigued

(No, no unsolicited evangelizing please. This message is for all, before my mailbox is busted. heheheh)

WeiHan:

patagonia:

It doesn't matter who interpretes what. At the end of the day, it's the 'head of household' who has the last say. Like we often hear parents tell their kids, if you misbehave, you'll get it when we go home!

haha maybe...even the perceptions of \"head of household\" can completely different...Some see him as rather wrathful and vicious..some see him as full of love.

Hmm.. 'head of household' is not head of church / temple / mosque.. It's the Top Guy up there.

WeiHan:

blessed777:

Disobedient Christian go to hell, the tesmony by Jennifer Perez:

Well you see....the problem is that words can be interpreted differently. the mainstream christians will argue that people like KH does not abey the words of God..but KH et al, will argue that it is the other way round and they think they are the best christians around.

That is why I don' think spirituality is about how knowledgeable one is with the scriptures and how well he/she can quote from it. It is about how much kinder and compassionate the person has transform into....the peaceful bliss that he starts to enjoy and the wisdom that starts to glow forth that enable him to manage life many adversities and to help others.

It doesn't matter who interpretes what. At the end of the day, it's the 'head of household' who has the last say. Like we often hear parents tell their kids, if you misbehave, you'll get it when we go home!

verykiasu2010:

patagonia:

His parents are Christians. Their kid, their religion, their decision how they want to bring up the kid. We won't interfere, even when the boy was reluctant to go to church sometimes.


This is off-topic already. To get back on track, I'll again share with everyone Kong Hee's sermon in the recent Presence Conference 2012 in Sydney. It's about 30 minutes long, and do move the clip forward from 39:30 onwards. http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2012/04/kong-hees-fleecing-of-the-masses.html

I believe everyone should hear it for themselves since he's unlikely to repeat this in Singapore in short-term.

the whole clip I got from the link is only 36:59..... which part is the 39:30 ?

Errmm.. I have no idea what's going on. You should see a 2hr long clip like the one in my last post on page 81. Try the above link again?

Lyddon:

patagonia:

[quote=\"csc\"]What is the message all about ? Can share the gist of it?

Prosperity preaching. You have to hear it to (dis)believe it.

If I very free, go to CHC every week and at the end of it all - remain thick skin/thick headed, unmoved, don't tith, and pose a lot of questions on their interpretations of the bible.

... wonder what will happen to me? Kenna kick out?[/quote]The question is, what do you want to achieve?

csc:

Listening now.. have not reached KH part yet .

My dear, if you are listening to 'Fleecing of Masses'.. move the clip to 39:30 and you'll hear his sermon right away.

csc:

What is the message all about ? Can share the gist of it?

Prosperity preaching. You have to hear it to (dis)believe it.

phtthp:

Thanks for guidance, patagonia.


after i click, i dun see any black screen.
never mind. think something wrong with my pc.

It's looks that. http://i47.tinypic.com/28t9py.png\">

It is in a new screen or new tab, depending on your machine. Disable your pop-up blocker if necessary. Send me a message if you need further technical help, so we don't clog up this thread.