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    Opinions of the Primary School Registration System

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    • L Offline
      limlim
      last edited by

      Why not do this..


      Those qualify for P2A, 2 ballot slip.
      Those qualify for P2B, 2 ballot slip.

      Within 1 km, 1 ballot slip.

      qualify for both P2A & P2B, 4 slips.
      qualify for both P2A & P2B & < 1km, 5 slip
      qualify for either P2A or P2B + < 1km, 3 slip

      All ballot together. :evil:

      Alumni also got priority mah..... just not \"absolute priority\"..

      fair right? :evil:

      who support? :evil:

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        Harlequin
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        Dora1:
        limlim:

        Less travelling, less congestion, everyone happy including those that has no school going kids and nothing related to education. Including Alumni who travels to go to work, also benefit from less traffic, even if their kids cannot get into the school.


        Alumni priority only benefit those minority who are alumni and aim for branded schools and wants to enroll in it. Distance priority potentially benefits EVERYONE in the country that travels in the island, Regardless of whether they take private car or public transport.

        I totally agree on this. I stay opp of Rulang. Last year there was only a miserable 10 places at phase 2C. This has a cascading effect on the next nearest school which is Shuqun, where balloting also occurred for SCs <1km in Phase 2C, because everybody in the neighbourhood went to Shuqun. I wanted to avoid a balloting situation so I didn't even try for Shuqun and went straight for a school within 1-2km with no balloting at Phase 2C. Every morning, the traffic around Rulang is a complete nightmare. And at the same time, we have to struggle to get out of the traffic nightmare to get to another school 1-2km away. How logical is that?
        The arguement about alumni creating diversity doesn't apply for all schools, only for schools around Bukit Timah/newton area. For schools like Rulang, Nanhua and St Hildas which are surrounded by HDB flats, other than creating crazy traffic situations and tired parents and children, what is the advantage of alumni priority? Esp in situations like Rulang, where the children had to be redistributed to other neighbouring schools, which actually caused the other schools in the area to end up with a balloting situation (Shuqun, lakeside).
        Actually for bukit timah, there are HDB flats within 2 km (farrer side or toh yi side). We cannot possibily have policies just for the benefit of the couple of schools in newton. There are other popular schools in the heartlands where the \"diversity\" for the alumni priority is simply not valid.
        Primary school registration is no longer my concern as my child is very happily settled in the not so popular school further away. But having been a victim of the alumni priority, I hope that the alumni priority should be capped at those living within 2 km radius. This would have the biggest benefit for the children as they dun have to waste time travelling, less traffic congestion for the immediate neighbours of the schools. I would like to invite the ministers of education and transport to take a look at the long line of vehicles exiting PIE and turning into corporation road, and then all the way to Rulang. This extremely long line of vehicles will mysteriously disappear during school holidays. And the fact that all these cars come from the PIE means that they don't stay around the neighbourhood!

        :goodpost:
        Good analysis, Dora1.

        MOE should read this.... if they want to tweak the alumni priority or any p school registration system.

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          limlim
          last edited by

          rains:


          It also defeats the argument of wanting diversity.
          \"diversity\" is but one minor consideration (while still debatable whether P2A really promote it)

          There are other practical considerations which others may feel is much more important.

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            Harlequin
            last edited by

            rains:
            Harlequin:


            :goodpost:
            This sounds fair... alumni get the priority, but with condition that they are living within proximity.

            Then there's no diff between this and phase 2C. And it breeds elitism.

            It also defeats the argument of wanting diversity.

            I agreed thinking if with proximity condition attached, the alumni's children will be a much smaller pool thus freeing up more vacancies for the next phrase.

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              limlim
              last edited by

              Wait… add 1 more for alumni… 3 ballot slips… since they are before P2B…


              fair bo? good hor…?

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                rains
                last edited by

                The only people who will support alumni priority removal, balloting and distance-priority are the non-alumni to popular schools.


                I call a spade a spade: it is sour grapes syndrome. Without it, nobody will kbkb.

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                  limlim
                  last edited by

                  Or tweak P2A to restrict those within 1~2km.


                  Remove P2B

                  far far away Alumni - 3 slips
                  former P2B - 2 slips
                  < 1km 1 slips.

                  Add up your slips.

                  anyone support? :evil:

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                    Harlequin
                    last edited by

                    rains:
                    3Boys:

                    [quote=\"rains\"]
                    The truth is, it's the alumni phase that offers the diversity of background.

                    Rich ACSians beget more rich ACSians beget more rich ACSians....

                    When in some such schools, there are barely 10% of spots in Phase 2C left over for the general public, how can one say that alumni priority which will lock in increasingly large numbers of places as the years go by, be said to promote diversity? Soon even the 2B slots will become limited.

                    Over the mid-long term, alumni priority stratifies society.

                    It's happening already, the diversity at some 'premier' primary schools is dismal.

                    ACS is just one out of some 300 schools? (got 300 or not?) Most popular schools do have students from diverse background. Even Nyps has students who require FAS.

                    Like what pirate said, it's the alumni who help to put the brand on popular schools, causing those who are non-alumni to scramble for a place at the schools. Yet it's these people who want the alumni to get lost. Kind of ironic there.[/quote]Yes, the irony....

                    you 一针见血 pointing out the complexity of the whole issue. :celebrate:

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                      limlim
                      last edited by

                      The only pple who support the smoking ban are non-smokers..


                      And smoking is banned is many places..

                      Why? because it is inherently detrimental to the well-being of the environment. (Analogy)

                      And if it is bad practice, it should be removed.

                      Same principal.

                      Those smokers who are affected.. face it..

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                        limlim
                        last edited by

                        Harlequin:
                        rains:



                        Like what pirate said, it's the alumni who help to put the brand on popular schools, causing those who are non-alumni to scramble for a place at the schools. Yet it's these people who want the alumni to get lost. Kind of ironic there.

                        Yes, the irony....

                        you 一针见血 pointing out the complexity of the whole issue. :celebrate:

                        Nobody ask the alumni to get lost worr.. once an alumni, always an alumni.

                        But, the kids of the alumni can get lost.. :evil: :evil: They did nothing to do the school proud (c'mon, they're not even in the school! yet..)

                        evil hor.. :evil:

                        but.. facts mah..

                        juz joking.. :siam:

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