Hwa Chong Institution (High School)
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Otah:
But they mentioned the O level class will still be 1 at sec 4, so I believe the SIP (structure IP) classes is to help pull back those might be drifted off in their study during their teens. The ultimate JC is HCJC which will continue to make a difference.[/quote]I think my point is - they didn't seem to suffer in A level results before this new SIP scheme. Unless there were more drop-outs of the IP programme than is known.
The key phrase is - \"In the past\" because more and more top of the cream choose the other IP school.looking4Tutor:
[quote=\"mkkiasu\"]
According to the school it will be 1 class in each consortium for sec 3, and ultimately 1 class of 'O' level at sec 4. That means about 1/4 of cohort will be put to SIP class in sec 3.
In the past they managed with 1 class in the whole cohort in sec 3, so now 4x as many will be 'stream' to SIP. It's seems quite pointless to have this IP programme then.
So do these top schools really have good teachers that can teach or smart students? As smart students migrate the answer is obvious.
HCI will be leveled with all other IP schools eventually hence more O level classes is in the making.
SIP is a safety net to catch this group of student that might need another route for their education pathway to study in peace. Or should they bulldoze their way in via tuition? :scratchhead:
I thought with the IP programme, students have more time to pursue their interests and worry less about the results until Sec 3 or 4 (which I thought the previous MSG reqt bar raising schedule was reasonable). With the SIP programme and a bigger pool streamed in Sec 2, naturally students will gravitate back to exam-focused. So what's the point of IP. -
Oh, how are they going to cope with the O level? In Sec 1 the boys dun take Geography and the History syallabus is also different (Not Asian History)...
mkkiasu:
According to the school it will be 1 class in each consortium for sec 3, and ultimately 1 class of 'O' level at sec 4. That means about 1/4 of cohort will be put to SIP class in sec 3.Otah:
[quote=\"mkkiasu\"]The MSG cut-off for Q class used to be 4. Q class is now renamed SIP and the cut-off changed to 3.
I find this counter intuitive. When we attended the S1 symposium the communication was this:
Sec 1- MSG 5
Sec 2 - MSG 4
Sec 3 & 4 - MSG 3
I thought this is reasonable with a gradual raising of bar. Now it's suddently changed to MSG 3 at Sec 2. And when in SIP class you have to bear the uncertainty of whether you'll continue with O level or IP for another year. It's like putting constant pressure to meet the grade. So in the ends it's all the grades and exams that matters.[/quote
I think it is more to protect those who cant cope with the ip syllabus or sleep through and have not waken up at end of sec 3, to at least have a chance to do o level and have alternatives. The local uni entry requires 4 grade A for A level in most coursez nowadays is the most pressurize. Last time where got like that. How to dun emphasize on grade down the stream? With o level cert at least can go oversea, or poly or come out and work.
In the past they managed with 1 class in the whole cohort in sec 3, so now 4x as many will be 'stream' to SIP. It's seems quite pointless to have this IP programme then.[/quote] -
Dear parents,
remember to go to Parents’ Portal to book your session with the teachers. -
yukilei:
Thanks Yukilei. This kind of booking is really ridiculous. When my Ds got into the portal, it appears that most teachers' time slots are already booked. I wonder if this really serves any objectives and if everyone is given a fair chance to meet the teachers.Dear parents,
remember to go to Parents' Portal to book your session with the teachers. -
Nutty mum:
Thanks Yukilei. This kind of booking is really ridiculous. When my Ds got into the portal, it appears that most teachers' time slots are already booked. I wonder if this really serves any objectives and if everyone is given a fair chance to meet the teachers.
When was the portal open for booking and when did your Ds get into the portal? Since it is first come first serve, everyone has a fair chance. I believe if you log on first, you are going to get your preferred slots. But if there are no slots let at all, then I suppose you can call/email to complain?? -
wiimum:
Booking actual starts 17May, 8am. Because both encountered difficulties getting into the Portal even the day before, he got in probably 8.20am.Nutty mum:
Thanks Yukilei. This kind of booking is really ridiculous. When my Ds got into the portal, it appears that most teachers' time slots are already booked. I wonder if this really serves any objectives and if everyone is given a fair chance to meet the teachers.
When was the portal open for booking and when did your Ds get into the portal? Since it is first come first serve, everyone has a fair chance. I believe if you log on first, you are going to get your preferred slots. But if there are no slots let at all, then I suppose you can call/email to complain?? -
I logged in on the first day at about 8.15am and true enough, some slots have already been ‘booked’. I believe the teachers have block booked most of these slots too as they might want to see these pupils’ parents. This happens to my girl’s school (MGS) as well.
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Puffer:
I logged in on the first day at about 8.15am and true enough, some slots have already been 'booked'. I believe the teachers have block booked most of these slots too as they might want to see these pupils' parents. This happens to my girl's school (MGS) as well.
My ds's science teacher is not available for the 2 days, so all the slots were marked as booked. -
8228:
This is exactly what I meant, you simply do not have a chance to speak to the teachers. I believe those parents that the teachers wish to meet should not be included in the same slots bookings. They should be allocated outside this booking slots. This is like first-come-first-serve basis.Puffer:
I logged in on the first day at about 8.15am and true enough, some slots have already been 'booked'. I believe the teachers have block booked most of these slots too as they might want to see these pupils' parents. This happens to my girl's school (MGS) as well.
My ds's science teacher is not available for the 2 days, so all the slots were marked as booked. -
Nutty mum:
This is exactly what I meant, you simply do not have a chance to speak to the teachers. I believe those parents that the teachers wish to meet should not be included in the same slots bookings. They should be allocated outside this booking slots. This is like first-come-first-serve basis.[/quote]I don't think the teachers block booked slots to meet certain parents during this PTM period. For my ds, only 1 teacher is \"not available\" for the full 2-day period and that's because he is on reservist. There could be other reasons why a certain teacher is not available during this 2 days, parents can email or call the teacher to arrange to chat on another day, if necessary.8228:
[quote=\"Puffer\"]I logged in on the first day at about 8.15am and true enough, some slots have already been 'booked'. I believe the teachers have block booked most of these slots too as they might want to see these pupils' parents. This happens to my girl's school (MGS) as well.
My ds's science teacher is not available for the 2 days, so all the slots were marked as booked. -
wonderm:
I don't think the teachers block booked slots to meet certain parents during this PTM period. For my ds, only 1 teacher is \"not available\" for the full 2-day period and that's because he is on reservist. There could be other reasons why a certain teacher is not available during this 2 days, parents can email or call the teacher to arrange to chat on another day, if necessary.
If you have logged in within 15 minutes from its opening on the first day, you would see close to 50% of a particular teacher's slots been booked - if this is not 'block-book', then that was really fast acts by some parents! -
Puffer:
Yes, could be fast acts by some parents, including you and mewonderm:
I don't think the teachers block booked slots to meet certain parents during this PTM period. For my ds, only 1 teacher is \"not available\" for the full 2-day period and that's because he is on reservist. There could be other reasons why a certain teacher is not available during this 2 days, parents can email or call the teacher to arrange to chat on another day, if necessary.
If you have logged in within 15 minutes from its opening on the first day, you would see close to 50% of a particular teacher's slots been booked - if this is not 'block-book', then that was really fast acts by some parents!
This is based on my experience from the past few years. Of course, I can't say for every case, best to find out from the child, as the teacher would have told the class if he/she block booked to meet certain parents. -
Puffer:
DS said some of his classmates are given form to inform that the teachers need to meet their parents. So maybe it's true that there's \"block book\".wonderm:
I don't think the teachers block booked slots to meet certain parents during this PTM period. For my ds, only 1 teacher is \"not available\" for the full 2-day period and that's because he is on reservist. There could be other reasons why a certain teacher is not available during this 2 days, parents can email or call the teacher to arrange to chat on another day, if necessary.
If you have logged in within 15 minutes from its opening on the first day, you would see close to 50% of a particular teacher's slots been booked - if this is not 'block-book', then that was really fast acts by some parents! -
Hi all, Term 2 results are out on our DS I-Comp for marks checking :yikes:
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Chandelier:
Hi all, Term 2 results are out on our DS I-Comp for marks checking :yikes:
Thanks Chandelier!!!!
Btw, DS shared that there's weightage allocated for each assignment under English & Higher Chinese. We're not suppose to sum up the marks & divide it with the total to determine the grade. -
Hi, all
Can I check with those having DS in sec 2 this year on how student are selected for special programs eg BSP, SMTP etc? meeting the min MSG<2? Any special advantage when in JC or applying to U? or Or is it better to just stay in the normal IP program for lesser work load since all lead to HCJC? -
joe0599:
Special Programmes include getting an A1 in the subject in matter and MSG <2.0Hi, all
Can I check with those having DS in sec 2 this year on how student are selected for special programs eg BSP, SMTP etc? meeting the min MSG<2? Any special advantage when in JC or applying to U? or Or is it better to just stay in the normal IP program for lesser work load since all lead to HCJC?
BSP: HCL
SMTP: LSS and IM
HP: IH and ELL
Advantage? In JC, it will allow you to enter more easily as you have gone through a tougher curriculum.
Applying for U. Well, if you have the experience in more research and higher-order learning, it will definitely make your son stand out. However, it is not said explicitly.
That depends on your son. If he can handle and it passionate then a greater workload shouldn't be a problem. -
Hi,
Anyone know of Lit Tutor around in the East? Dun mind going to the tutor house if travelling is not too far. -
Hi All,
If your DS was via DSA to HCI previously, could you kindly share your experience on the format of DSA test on English and Chinese. MCQ or Open-ended or both?
Next the group diagloue (interview) consist a panel of interviews for a group of students. If it is the latter, how do they assess on the student performance as it is just like debate, whoever is faster in answering will the lead the conversation and other students may not have the chance to add on if the first speaker cover the topic comprehensively.
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sama:
I don't know/remember the format for written tests. As for group interview, don't need to worry, every child is given a chance to respond to the questions. Most of the questions are looking for personal views or responses, so no risks of earlier speaker covering everything. As in all interviews, it is not just the answers that are important, the way they are answered are equally or more important to the interviewers. So if a child is very shy or passive in such dialogue, it does reveal something about the candidate, I suppose.Hi All,
If your DS was via DSA to HCI previously, could you kindly share your experience on the format of DSA test on English and Chinese. MCQ or Open-ended or both?
Next the group diagloue (interview) consist a panel of interviews for a group of students. If it is the latter, how do they assess on the student performance as it is just like debate, whoever is faster in answering will the lead the conversation and other students may not have the chance to add on if the first speaker cover the topic comprehensively.
Please help
All the best to your DS!