All About Home Addresses

[sean wife]

Yes, I do intend to stay at that place if I go along that path…I do not believe in subjecting the child to more than an hour’s journey on the school bus…


For my case, it is a matter of relocating to be enrolled in Phase 2A1, or relocating to be enrolled in Phase 2C in another school. But the Phase 2A1 location is really far from my workplace (more than 1.5hrs each way), thus the 2nd thoughts now…

Thanks.

[hweepang]

qms:

hweepang:

For using my Bishan address, this means that we need to change the address to bishan in order to qualify for the distance measure, i.e. 1km?

Yes.

hweepang:

As mentioned, I bought a property which is currently under construction. So, technically, I cannot change our NRICs to that address. For using an address which is under construction, I think it is allowed as long as I can proof ownership and TOP of that property must be within x years from my child's P1 admission. Am I correct?

Yes. For property under construction during P1 registration, you may use the address if you move in at the end of your child's P2 education.

hweepang:

On this, will I then be able to use our NRIC address (e.g. Ang Mo Kio or Bishan) when applying under 2B and if the unfortunate circumstances of failing to be balloted in 2B, can I then use proof of ownership of my bt timah property under construction to apply for Nanyang under phase 2C?

No. Please see below:

http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1002911#p1002911

You don't use the address just to give your child an edge in the registration. You must truly be staying at the address that you use.

Haha. Thanks! Please don't get me wrong. We are currently based overseas and will be returning back to Singapore in 2014 or 2015. Since we have that option, we are flexible in our place of residence.

I guess, I am a Kiasu father, and our residence will much depends on her school.

I'm now studying the various options and its viability. Is the above possible?

[qms]

hweepang:

Haha. Thanks! Please don't get me wrong. We are currently based overseas and will be returning back to Singapore in 2014 or 2015. Since we have that option, we are flexible in our place of residence.

As a parent, I understand where you are coming from.

hweepang:

I guess, I am a Kiasu father, and our residence will much depends on her school.

I know. That's why you are here, right? :siam:

hweepang:

I'm now studying the various options and its viability. Is the above possible?

As I mentioned previously, you can only use the Bt Timah address if your NRIC reflects this address, unless the property is under construction, like in the case of your Bishan property.

So, if you have to choose between St Nicks or Nanyang, you will have to change the address in your NRIC.

[qms]

sean wife:

Yes, I do intend to stay at that place if I go along that path…I do not believe in subjecting the child to more than an hour’s journey on the school bus…


For my case, it is a matter of relocating to be enrolled in Phase 2A1, or relocating to be enrolled in Phase 2C in another school. But the Phase 2A1 location is really far from my workplace (more than 1.5hrs each way), thus the 2nd thoughts now…

Thanks.

There is nothing in MOE's rules that states the minimum occupation period required before you are allowed to use the rental address.

[cherrygal]

sean wife:

Yes, I do intend to stay at that place if I go along that path…I do not believe in subjecting the child to more than an hour’s journey on the school bus…


For my case, it is a matter of relocating to be enrolled in Phase 2A1, or relocating to be enrolled in Phase 2C in another school. But the Phase 2A1 location is really far from my workplace (more than 1.5hrs each way), thus the 2nd thoughts now…

Thanks.

Do you intend to serve for a really long time at your current workplace? If you have worked there for >5yrs and really like it there and think you can stay till retirement, then maybe you can make the decision based on your workplace... if not, then I don't see any point in making a school / home decision based on your current workplace. That is a constant that can change.

If your alma mater is a good school, get that seat there first. You don't need to move within 1km of your alma mater but can move to a place in between your workplace and your alma mater to shorten the travelling time.

[phtthp]

Another factor to consider is 6 years’ later, the location of your child’s secondary school may be different from that of your child’s primary school.

[hweepang]

qms:

hweepang:

Haha. Thanks! Please don't get me wrong. We are currently based overseas and will be returning back to Singapore in 2014 or 2015. Since we have that option, we are flexible in our place of residence.

As a parent, I understand where you are coming from.

hweepang:

I guess, I am a Kiasu father, and our residence will much depends on her school.

I know. That's why you are here, right? :siam:

hweepang:

I'm now studying the various options and its viability. Is the above possible?

As I mentioned previously, you can only use the Bt Timah address if your NRIC reflects this address, unless the property is under construction, like in the case of your Bishan property.

So, if you have to choose between St Nicks or Nanyang, you will have to change the address in your NRIC.

It seems like the proximity are determined by the address stated in our NRICs. What happens if my wife and I register ourselves with different addresses? My wife at AMK (1km from St Nic) and myself at bishan (1km from Ai Tong)?

Ok..... I am not just Kiasu.....but very very kiasu. If we volunteer ourselves for these 2 schools so that we qualify for Phase 2B in both schools. Can we then determine the registration-to-places ratio cumulated in the first 2 days of Phase 2B registration and then lock our choice (between St Nic and Ai Tong) based on the school with favourable ratio on day 3 (Tagging along the applicable parent's address)?

[merkon]

Hweepang,

i heard from my friend who is in school admin that if both parents nric shows different addresses, they will take the father’s address as the registration address unless there’s some document (like custodian issues) to support why mother’s address should be used. I thought you mentioned you are stationed overseas, it would be tough to do PV isn’t it? Phase 2b traditionally has 2 days of registration. so you have to decide by day 2 afternoon in 2b.

[qms]

hweepang:

It seems like the proximity are determined by the address stated in our NRICs. What happens if my wife and I register ourselves with different addresses? My wife at AMK (1km from St Nic) and myself at bishan (1km from Ai Tong)?

Please see reply from MOE:

http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=736812#p736812

hweepang:

Ok..... I am not just Kiasu.....but very very kiasu. If we volunteer ourselves for these 2 schools so that we qualify for Phase 2B in both schools. Can we then determine the registration-to-places ratio cumulated in the first 2 days of Phase 2B registration and then lock our choice (between St Nic and Ai Tong) based on the school with favourable ratio on day 3 (Tagging along the applicable parent's address)?

You are not considering NYPS anymore?

You don't have to change your NRIC to reflect the address in Bishan. You can produce the S&P Agreement during P1 registration to show that you have a property that will TOP before your child reaches P3 (latest end of your child's P2 education). Your chance with St Nicks is next to zero if you change your address in your NRIC to Bishan because the school will use your NRIC address, not your wife's.

As for PV, I am not sure how favourably the Ai Tong principal will evaluate your application just by producing the S&P Agreement. She may give priority to parents who are already staying within 1 km from the school. I thought you were a SHHK member? Maybe you should consider contributing your time and effort as a PV for SHHK, although there is no guarantee you will ultimately receive the highly coveted letter that qualifies you to P2B. How long have you been a SHHK member? Since you are currently overseas, I presume you have been a dormant member? SHHK now requires members to contribute their time before they will be considered for recommendation.

[cherrygal]

BTW, Ai Tong PV applicants need to ballot to serve as traffic wardens. Only 10 will be allowed to PV.


Both schools targeted are schools that have super tough balloting. Around 2 kids : 1 seat.

You must be prepared for Plan C at Phase 2C Supp which would most likely be the neighbourhood schools around AMK or Marymount Convent (also balloting at P2CS >2km).

Since you have an upcoming property in Bukit Timah, would actually suggest you try to volunteer at NYPS coz Phase 2B balloting at NYPS is surprisingly not as competitive as St Nick’s or Ai Tong. A friend got into NYPS by simply PVing and staying within 1km. You can use the Sales agreement to apply.

At Phase 2B, there is competition between:
CHIJ St Nicholas - PVs, grassroots, Catholics
Ai Tong - PVs, grassroots, SHHK members
NYPS - only PVs and grassroots

And if you really get balloted out of NYPS, you can still try for St Margaret’s at Phase 2CS.

Qms,
isn’t it compulsory for married couples to put the same NRIC address when registering for P1? I thought MOE only allows divorced couples to have different addresses shown on their NRICs during application…