2013 P1 Registration Exercise for 2014 In-Take

[lil_jade]

ryes:

Hi lil_jade


No problem.
I also didnt know odds are worst than 50%.
That's until someone advices us going for 2c sup to read the 2012 theead.
If u have time, go read the last few pages of 2012 p1 registration for last year.
It talks about lots on Marymount.

I also don't believe to be unlucky twice BUT if its like 21 vying for 4? I will think twice.
She has to be prepared, if cant get in, n she don't mind other schs for time being till her child is p1, then opt for transfer. That's my plan now too.

In terms of academic and what the sch can provide, it's not so much of a priority for me now. Importantly can get in first. : )
I also prefer Marymount. But if all the odds are against me, your friend like me will prob opt for alternative. I'm also in the more than 2km for both sch.

Ask her drive by these two schs first. The original location and the temp location.
Ask her does am or pm session matter to her?
Like for me, in 2c, it matters. I want am session.
Now? Everything also can accommodate including pm session.

It's because she's in a similar situation I can understand and share what I try my best to find out. Another thing is, canossa has a small cohort. 120 students, ie 4 classes.
Whereas Marymount has a larger cohort.

Dear Ryes,

Thanks! I think she will have to think hard if she wants to gamble again... She may end up with a school that is not even somewhere she considered and far from the gals' school she envision for her DD..

Thanks!

[lil_jade]

sembgal:

lil_jade:

Dear Sembgal,


Thanks for the advice! I'll ask my friend to personally go to Marymount and ask them about the waitlist issues. I think that'll help her to better decide if she wants to risk balloting at Marymount...

Thanks!

You are welcome. Another factor to consider is the transportation for the child. Tentatively, the child can choose to take the school bus in lower primary. However in upper primary, the child is independent and can travel by herself. Marymount Convent is situated near to the mrt station which is a bonus point.

For Canossa Convent, there is affiliation to the sec sch, St Anthony's Canossian Sec Sch located in the east at New Upper Changi Road. St Anthony's Canossian Sec Sch is affliated to Catholic JC. We are not staying in the east and have no intention to stay in the east in future so Canossa Convent was not in our choice of primary schools that we had in mind for Phase 2C. I believe Canossa Convent School is equally as good too.

Where's your friend residing?

Dear Sembgal,

My friend stays in Central. Actually Marymount is much nearer for her.. And I don't think she will ever think of her DD going to a secondary school in the far East.. So that's why the affiliation also won't influence her much in her decision - making. Nevertheless, the security of a place in phase 2CS is worth serious contemplation..

Many thanks!

[lil_jade]

summerrain:

Can someone explain the waiting list system? Is it first come first serve?

Dear summerrain,

If I'm not wrong from reading the KSP forum, it seems that P has ultimate power to decide who gets the place first? It can be based on any criterion that the P deems most important??

KSP gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong, thanks!

[absolut_vodka]

summerrain:

Can someone explain the waiting list system? Is it first come first serve?

Nope, definitely not... This is one area that MOE does not control so 'relationships' will come into play. Whether you know someone, whether you contribute to the school ($ or time - e.g. More PV hours than the next parent), even your family background.

[timtim]

sembgal:

lil_jade:

Sembgal,


Thanks! My friend, like you, really much prefers Marymount to Canossa.. But when I ask her what if she is balloted out of Marymount, she has no backup school whatever.. that is, she cannot conceive of that happening.. She's kicking herself for not putting Marymount in phase 2C, but no use crying over spilt milk.

N she really just wants a gal school as her DS is more or less secured a place in SJIJ cos daddy is an alumni. So now, the stress is really getting to her...

Do you know if Marymount's waitlist is not that scary, meaning that gals do leave at start of P1 quite quickly, like if they're offered places in other schools?

Thanks!

The best person to speak to would be Marymount Convent School admin/receptionist. She has been a great source of help and offered her advice to me when I was deliberating if I should consider Marymount Convent in Phase 2C. I'm glad I did because after the results for Phase 2C came out, I realised that my child did not even stand a chance at any of the girls' schools I have shortlisted due to distance factor. I'm very lucky and glad that I made the right decision to enrol my child at Marymount Convent school in Phase 2C.
Call on Monday to speak to Marymount Convent admin/receptionist who has been so patient to answer parents' queries. I believe she is the best person to advise you about the waitlist statistic.

Last point to consider is whether your friend's child is an early riser or late riser. If your friend's child is an early riser, you can consider Cannossa Convent as Primary 1 students will attend morning session. If your friend's child is like my child who is a late riser, it is better to consider to put the child in the afternoon session for Primary 1 at Marymount Convent School. A child who is a late riser will study better and learn better in the afternoon session. My child is not an early morning person and her best learning time is from late morning to afternoon onwards.

Late or early riser should not be main consideration since MOE aims to convert all pri sch to single session by 2016. So better let your kids get use to getting up and learn early in the morning.

[hyp]

Any parent know about Greenwood Primary?

[sembgal]

timtim:

sembgal:

[quote=\"lil_jade\"]Sembgal,


Thanks! My friend, like you, really much prefers Marymount to Canossa.. But when I ask her what if she is balloted out of Marymount, she has no backup school whatever.. that is, she cannot conceive of that happening.. She's kicking herself for not putting Marymount in phase 2C, but no use crying over spilt milk.

N she really just wants a gal school as her DS is more or less secured a place in SJIJ cos daddy is an alumni. So now, the stress is really getting to her...

Do you know if Marymount's waitlist is not that scary, meaning that gals do leave at start of P1 quite quickly, like if they're offered places in other schools?

Thanks!

The best person to speak to would be Marymount Convent School admin/receptionist. She has been a great source of help and offered her advice to me when I was deliberating if I should consider Marymount Convent in Phase 2C. I'm glad I did because after the results for Phase 2C came out, I realised that my child did not even stand a chance at any of the girls' schools I have shortlisted due to distance factor. I'm very lucky and glad that I made the right decision to enrol my child at Marymount Convent school in Phase 2C.
Call on Monday to speak to Marymount Convent admin/receptionist who has been so patient to answer parents' queries. I believe she is the best person to advise you about the waitlist statistic.

Last point to consider is whether your friend's child is an early riser or late riser. If your friend's child is an early riser, you can consider Cannossa Convent as Primary 1 students will attend morning session. If your friend's child is like my child who is a late riser, it is better to consider to put the child in the afternoon session for Primary 1 at Marymount Convent School. A child who is a late riser will study better and learn better in the afternoon session. My child is not an early morning person and her best learning time is from late morning to afternoon onwards.

Late or early riser should not be main consideration since MOE aims to convert all pri sch to single session by 2016. So better let your kids get use to getting up and learn early in the morning.[/quote]From 2014 to 2015, a lower primary child who is a late riser, wakes up later and attends school in the afternoon functions better than if she were to wake up early in the morning and goes to school in a daze and only \"wakes up\" after recess. Until the session has been changed, will there be a need for parental concerns on the child bedtime.

[ryes]

absolut_vodka:

summerrain:

Can someone explain the waiting list system? Is it first come first serve?

Nope, definitely not... This is one area that MOE does not control so 'relationships' will come into play. Whether you know someone, whether you contribute to the school ($ or time - e.g. More PV hours than the next parent), even your family background.

If in the event in 2b all pv got in, then there are waitlist for those who didnt get in under 2c, priority will go to relationship, donation etc?

[lil_jade]

Dear Ryes,


I guess from your scenario that if all the PV got in, the game is back to square one and the P gets to decide who on the waitlist fits her criterion (we can only guess what that is…) But I think definitely having a sense of what the P is looking out for is important.

Eg 1: I do know of a friend who is a ex - teacher of a Secondary School whose child missed the COP. Appealed to P and was admitted cos the friend had loads of other teacher friends still teaching in that school. So relationship plays a part…

Other scenario will be maybe based on religion? Distance? Contribution? Maybe some skills the child already has like dance or music so the P can already think of how the child can contribute to SYF performance in the future? Or the P may just go by first come first served? No one knows I guess!

[sembgal]

lil_jade:

Dear Ryes,


I guess from your scenario that if all the PV got in, the game is back to square one and the P gets to decide who on the waitlist fits her criterion (we can only guess what that is....) But I think definitely having a sense of what the P is looking out for is important.

Eg 1: I do know of a friend who is a ex - teacher of a Secondary School whose child missed the COP. Appealed to P and was admitted cos the friend had loads of other teacher friends still teaching in that school. So relationship plays a part...

Other scenario will be maybe based on religion? Distance? Contribution? Maybe some skills the child already has like dance or music so the P can already think of how the child can contribute to SYF performance in the future? Or the P may just go by first come first served? No one knows I guess!

Just to share that relationship is important. I know of a case in a school in Punggol that a child was admitted (not in Pri 1 registration) because of donation and relationship connection-a relative works as a teacher in the school and appealed to principal. This student has talent in dancing and the student cannot acknowledge her relative in the school. I feel a big part of this is through connection.