2013 P1 Registration Exercise for 2014 In-Take
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Monster Mummy:
I total agreed in the sense government need to ensure that the citizen and PR children are taken care of first. We understand that everyone want the best for their children. Yet, this is a situation that oversubscription might be the steep fight among foreigners who work here or do not work here. I believed that we also do not want to reach the stage that too much supply of school that cause the quality of education deteriorate.[/quote]pirate:
[quote=\"av8trxx\"]Dimsum - there are tons of countries who do not discriminate according to the nationality of the children registering for a place at a public school in their adopted country. Off the top of my head, Australia, USA, England and Canada - just to name a few...
I'm sorry, but until one has applied for and is granted permanent residence in Singapore, Singapore is not one's \"adopted country\".
Exactly. I believe you have the situation right. Well said, you express it better than I was trying to! -
phtthp:
...Another group (example) is those \"pei tong\" mama from china.
Err...it should be \"pei du ma ma\". Later, students+parents+staff of that school come after you. :evil:
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Yes, it should be \"pei du\" mama. (\"Study\" mama)
:imsorry: not \"pei tong\" -
av8trxx:
Even if you live here, it doesn't necessarily mean that you are a SC or PR. You could still be a foreigner on whatever pass there is available.You mistook what I was saying and make several assumptions. You assume I am not SC or PR - don't make assumptions! Of course I know that SC's and PR's face ballot and I also know the limitations of a small country- I live here!
What desires? What expertise? I expressed an opinion that you are turning into something else - flamebait. This is the attitude that makes this situation volatile. I wish I had expertise and $$$$ - I would travel the world and never work a day again in my life! However, I don't and this is my home- but you have reminded me to play the lottery!
You expressed your opinion and I expressed mine. It was not intended to be a flame bait. You agreed that this little country has limited resources - is it fair to expect the govt to provide 100% for everyone? You mentioned countries like Australia, UK, US and these are countries that have plenty of land for one and an extremely high taxation system as compared to ours. Is it then a fair comparison? Foreigners who are here are always welcome to explore other options and that was what I intended to say. The fact is, those who made a decision to come here, in most cases, only managed to come in due to our lax immigration policy in the last couple of years. The main issue is here is the poor planning and lack of foresight. -
I curious to know the difference between a government school vs international / private school, from a foreigner’s point of view. The pros and cons of each and what is it that tip your decision. Foreigners do have options in my opinion.
Is this the first time when Singapore schools are turning away foreginers? -
qms:
I've heard of this but is this still in vogue? Given our high cost of living and these pei du mama don't have work permits..... can survive meh?phtthp:
...Another group (example) is those \"pei tong\" mama from china.
Err...it should be \"pei du ma ma\". Later, students+parents+staff of that school come after you. :evil: :siam: -
Foreigners are welcome to try government school, however if the vacancies are limited. It will not be fair to say we turn away the foreigner as the ultimate aim it still need to cater to SC and PR children. We are already in the land with limited resources and scare land. Definitely priority still need to provide to the citizen. I believed that every country will still take care their citizen with priority regardless of education or other assistance.
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Monster Mummy:
Foreigners are welcome to try government school, however if the vacancies are limited. It will not be fair to say we turn away the foreigner as the ultimate aim it still need to cater to SC and PR children. We are already in the land with limited resources and scare land. Definitely priority still need to provide to the citizen. I believed that every country will still take care their citizen with priority regardless of education or other assistance.
This expectation has always been clear from the begining. That's has always been my understanding. In any case foreginers have the option of international or private schools. -
I believe we need to use the forum to give constructive suggestions for the issue and not to pass judgement or feel happy that a kid was denied (or could be denied, as so far MOE has been mentioning that they will try their level best) primary education.
Say if next year 5-6K citizen’s return home all of a sudden, then that 700+ number could be of citizen’s, forget about PR or foreigners… Then if one citizen ask to increase the seats in a class, then other citizens will not allow that to happen because the ‘quality’ will be degraded or his/her kid was balloted out from that school in the earlier phases… -
ttk:
Say if next year 5-6K citizen's return home all of a sudden, then that 700+ number could be of citizen's, forget about PR or foreigners.. Then if one citizen ask to increase the seats in a class, then other citizens will not allow that to happen because the 'quality' will be degraded or his/her kid was balloted out from that school in the earlier phases...
Is there any reason to think that the govt does not have records of how many citizens of a particular age are 'out there'. After all, all citizens have an NRIC no. Where does this figure of 5-6k citizens of pri 1 entry age come from? Also, apparently overseas citizens can still 'reserve a place' in the P1 registration exercise via the usual phase 1, 2A, 2B or 2C despite being overseas.
For more information of MOE's commitment to returning citizens, see:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/admissions/returning-singaporeans/
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