2013 PSLE Discussions and Strategy
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25hr mama:
But here I'm not talking abt competing for a place in top school. I'm talking abt top performers type of students, feeling that when a paper is too easy, they are deprived of a chance to outshine others, bcos with more people (referring to average or above average students here), now are able to score as a high as them, and that makes these pupils unhappy. Not forgetting that, some of these are those who already got multiple COs, but still has this mentality of seeing others falter & the want to outdo others is a real concern & not a healthy sign.
There is no right or wrong....
It's all depends on if the child is an average student or a top student. I am sure for average student, their parents want the papers to be easy..thus not agreeing to having difficult paper, so that to get close to the top students. For top students, they want the paper to be difficult to see the real delta. -
skyhigh_18:
nice one...cos DC are at this stage now...so PSLE score matters to them...I always tell my students it is like a passport. Use one time n that is it.One more thing.. When you go for job interview ... There is no space to fill in Primary school T score results in the application form... It all start with O level ...
The HR never ask you which pri Sch are you from ? -
Interesting discussion. So asked DS he prefers what sort of paper. Told me difficult so as to be able to separate the really good students. Note that DS is a below average student so will not benefit from a difficult paper.
We trying hard to teach him that exam is just a test of what he knows. It's the process of learning that is important. But life is unfair. There could be cases where he worked very hard but will still not get the results that he wants. Then too bad as that is life. Most important is to pick himself up and try harder the next time.
But I'm sure I will still be super nervous on the result day. And trying my best to show a supportive face regardless of the result. :grphug: -
HappyBlueBear:
Personally, I'm still glad English and Math were easy papers this year, though kiddo consistently gets > 98 percentile in English and > 90% percentile in Math in difficult school exams. I hope there will be better mix of students in top schools and hence reduce the competition there. I was actually discouraging kiddo to go top schools (if can make it) as the stiff competition is very unhealthy.
Totally agree. In addition, by observing the arrogance of some parents (not in this forum so far but personal experience) who have dc with much higher IQ than themselves, it makes me worried about our kids' future if the learning environments of these high-achievers are not well-balanced. -
skyhigh_18:
...No wonder MOE knows that there is a very big gap between the good student and the average student in terms of attitude towards fellow classmate. My DD is in an integrated class that is mixed with GEP students... You can already see the attitude among them.. And it's not good
Your first hand experience? That's something I want to confirm. -
For an easy paper, there is little room for careless mistakes. As the mean will be high, a few careless mistakes for an average student may result in the raw score being less than the mean. This would translate to a negative which gets multiplied by 10 and result in a transformed score for that subject that it lower than 50.
I tell my kid that we have no control over the mean and the SD. The only factor that she has control over in the tscore formula is her raw score - so just do her best and everything will fall in place. -
Fresco:
Totally agreed.I am not surprised at all that some, if not all, of this year's papers are easy and manageable even to the average and below average students. In fact, I kind of expected it before PSLE started two days ago.
MOE has already emphasized that it has taken into consideration the high level of stress that the PSLE has caused to both parents and students alike, throughout these years and that they are doing something (in stages) and tweaking the system to help reduce the negatives of PSLE.
This year's PSLE may jolly well be the first execution of their plans. Apparently, they have decided to make this year's exam papers more manageable to the bulk of the students for a start. Easy exam papers is good news to the majority of the cohort especially the average performers, hence putting both students/parents at ease and definitely a great confidence booster. The question is, what happens when the results are out. What does having easy exams translate to?
Anyway, this is only my conjecture. There are two more papers to go, so it is still premature to arrive at any conclusion. I'm sure MOE has many other plans in the pipeline with regards to the changes to be made to the PSLE. The next few years will tell how the changes have come about and in what way it will affect the students.
Whether an exam paper is easy or difficult, all students ought to attempt it to the best of their abilities and should not, in any way, turn complacent or be discouraged. When you have given your best, there will be no regrets on your part, and whatever happens after the exams which is not within your control, it can't possibly give you any guilt trip.
Most importantly, after you have set your expectations appropriately for the PSLE, feel good about yourselves and be confident of your abilities and accepting your inabilities. That way, you will breeze through your PSLE with a balanced and happy heart. -
funnydaddy:
Agreed that there is no right or wrong.There is no right or wrong....
It's all depends on if the child is an average student or a top student. I am sure for average student, their parents want the papers to be easy..thus not agreeing to having difficult paper, so that to get close to the top students. For top students, they want the paper to be difficult to see the real delta.
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Strongly disagreed to the statement : I am sure for average student, their parents want the papers to be easy..thus not agreeing to having difficult paper, so that to get close to the top students. -
Jennifer:
I agree with you totally! :hi5:
Agreed that there is no right or wrong.funnydaddy:
There is no right or wrong....
It's all depends on if the child is an average student or a top student. I am sure for average student, their parents want the papers to be easy..thus not agreeing to having difficult paper, so that to get close to the top students. For top students, they want the paper to be difficult to see the real delta.
BUT
Strongly disagreed to the statement : I am sure for average student, their parents want the papers to be easy..thus not agreeing to having difficult paper, so that to get close to the top students. -
happyheart:
Yes, absolutely agree with jennifer and happyheart. What's the advantage of getting close to top students?
I agree with you totally! :hi5:Jennifer:
Strongly disagreed to the statement : I am sure for average student, their parents want the papers to be easy..thus not agreeing to having difficult paper, so that to get close to the top students.
Top students don't equate to top personality/attitude/moral value.
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