Palm View Primary

[Just me CMC]

wfchiang:

My daughter goes to Pro-teach after school. We were told to get a sleeping bag for her on the first day and were under the impression that the tables will be cleared during nap time and the kids would sleep on their sleeping bags on the floor.


However, I think after the first few days, the kids were told to sleep sitting, i.e., sitting on the chairs and leaning their heads on their arms on the tables. My girl told me she can't sleep well like this. Napping this way will be bad for her posture in the long run, this is also bad for blood circulation and will cause pins and needles on the arms and the legs!

I wonder if other parents have issue with this?

Hi wfchaing, yes that's what my DD told me too! Yesterday they skip the nap time cos DD said 'teacher say no time'. I believe alot of time will be spent shifting the furniture around and moreover the nap time is too short(45 mins) to really fall asleep. They are spending more time revising their spelling and doing their homework i guess...

[Quizzer]

My son told me if they can’t finish homework, there won’t be enough time to allocate for napping? I seriously think it’s not good to keep in that kind of posture to rest even though I don’t think my son will take napping in school?

[cyranocrash]

I believe nap time is the least priority for the student care. Bearing in mind that kids at P1 and P2 level then to be playful still and may drag the lunch period, they may end up starting to do their homework/spelling late. Not sure of other parents, but I recall reading somewhere that their main priority is to ensure the kids complete the homework at the student care. They will not ensure the work is correct… but will ensure the work is completed.

In short… they will first ensure the kids have proper lunch (else parents will attack them for not allowing their kids to have proper lunch… hahahahah)… then complete homework… then nap (aka inner peace) if time permits… followed by the ProTeach i-learning programme, etc.
My guess is perhaps since there is very little time left, the teacher allows the kids to simply rest their head on the table for a short while.
I was also told by the proteach staff that they may consider sending back the sleeping bags once a month instead of every 2 weeks if the kids don get to use the sleeping bags often due to insufficient time for nap.
For me… my kids are used to not napping while they are in childcare… usually they will juz lie down and rest. So I’m ok with no nap. I’m more particular about no showering… coz they always stink when I fetch them in the evening… HAHAHAHHAHAHA

[wfchiang]

Thank you, parents, for your thoughts on the nap time.


I too, am fine if there is no nap time for after-school student care, but, if the centre is committed to having one, then I'd prefer that it is properly done, for the sake of the well-being of the children.

I may have gotten it wrong, but I thought the schedule when the children reach Pro-teach is: clean themselves and change, lunch (or lunch first then clean), nap, and then homework, and then the in-house programme.

And so, if the kids take too long to clean up and have lunch, there may not be enough time for a long nap time before it's time to do their homework.

I agree with cyranocrash that long nap time may not be absolutely necessary, however, a little \"rest time\" or \"tune down\" time for the kids to settle back may be very beneficial for kids at this age. Yes, inner peace.

Finnish primary schools have their children lie down and close their eyes to rest for a couple of minutes or so before their math classes begin This is to let their little minds rest and tune out what they have been doing before that to get ready for new learning experiences.

In the same vein, it may be good if our kids could just lie down for 15-20 minutes, and rest their minds after a full morning of learning, so that there is some kind of break from school, and then continue with the afternoon learning session. Just my two cents.

[tansan]

wfchiang:

My daughter goes to Pro-teach after school. We were told to get a sleeping bag for her on the first day and were under the impression that the tables will be cleared during nap time and the kids would sleep on their sleeping bags on the floor.


However, I think after the first few days, the kids were told to sleep sitting, i.e., sitting on the chairs and leaning their heads on their arms on the tables. My girl told me she can't sleep well like this. Napping this way will be bad for her posture in the long run, this is also bad for blood circulation and will cause pins and needles on the arms and the legs!

I wonder if other parents have issue with this?

Hi there,
My daughter also experienced the same thing and sometime no nap at all cos not enough time. I don't understand why she said no time to sleep?? I feel that at least 30mins of power nap is more than enough as my girl has to wake up everyday at 6am.
Anyway, I have wrote to Pro Teach regards to this issue, pending their reply. will share with you when they have replied.
BR,

[ctmy]

I think they should just do away with the napping time. Perhaps a 10-15min "meditation" time in which kids close their eyes and rest (as mentioned by wfchiang) with soothing/relaxing music will be a more practical solution. Given that this is only the beginning of the year, the workload is definitely going to get heavier down the road, not to mention the enrichment classes have not even started.


BTW, my boy mentioned to me that the teacher never gave them spelling even though his spelling is today. So I had no choice but to test him last night myself. I understand that this is one of the priority in the student care program. Any parents encounter the same experience?

[tomyum]

ctmy:

I think they should just do away with the napping time. Perhaps a 10-15min \"meditation\" time in which kids close their eyes and rest (as mentioned by wfchiang) with soothing/relaxing music will be a more practical solution. Given that this is only the beginning of the year, the workload is definitely going to get heavier down the road, not to mention the enrichment classes have not even started.


BTW, my boy mentioned to me that the teacher never gave them spelling even though his spelling is today. So I had no choice but to test him last night myself. I understand that this is one of the priority in the student care program. Any parents encounter the same experience?

my boy in 2 witty (student care class) .. and he told me that yest the teacher gave them chinese spelling test... and i saw my boy wrote his mark on his communication book too...

[beaniecow]

ctmy:

I think they should just do away with the napping time. Perhaps a 10-15min \"meditation\" time in which kids close their eyes and rest (as mentioned by wfchiang) with soothing/relaxing music will be a more practical solution. Given that this is only the beginning of the year, the workload is definitely going to get heavier down the road, not to mention the enrichment classes have not even started.


BTW, my boy mentioned to me that the teacher never gave them spelling even though his spelling is today. So I had no choice but to test him last night myself. I understand that this is one of the priority in the student care program. Any parents encounter the same experience?

do the student care let the student bath then eat? and do they still wear their uniform when in student care

[Just me CMC]

beaniecow:

ctmy:

I think they should just do away with the napping time. Perhaps a 10-15min \"meditation\" time in which kids close their eyes and rest (as mentioned by wfchiang) with soothing/relaxing music will be a more practical solution. Given that this is only the beginning of the year, the workload is definitely going to get heavier down the road, not to mention the enrichment classes have not even started.


BTW, my boy mentioned to me that the teacher never gave them spelling even though his spelling is today. So I had no choice but to test him last night myself. I understand that this is one of the priority in the student care program. Any parents encounter the same experience?

do the student care let the student bath then eat? and do they still wear their uniform when in student care

They don't bath but use a towel to clean up before lunch and they will changed into Pro-teach t-shirt for the day.

[cyranocrash]

wfchiang:

Thank you, parents, for your thoughts on the nap time.


I too, am fine if there is no nap time for after-school student care, but, if the centre is committed to having one, then I'd prefer that it is properly done, for the sake of the well-being of the children.

I may have gotten it wrong, but I thought the schedule when the children reach Pro-teach is: clean themselves and change, lunch (or lunch first then clean), nap, and then homework, and then the in-house programme.

And so, if the kids take too long to clean up and have lunch, there may not be enough time for a long nap time before it's time to do their homework.

I agree with cyranocrash that long nap time may not be absolutely necessary, however, a little \"rest time\" or \"tune down\" time for the kids to settle back may be very beneficial for kids at this age. Yes, inner peace.

Finnish primary schools have their children lie down and close their eyes to rest for a couple of minutes or so before their math classes begin This is to let their little minds rest and tune out what they have been doing before that to get ready for new learning experiences.

In the same vein, it may be good if our kids could just lie down for 15-20 minutes, and rest their minds after a full morning of learning, so that there is some kind of break from school, and then continue with the afternoon learning session. Just my two cents.

Exactly what I was trying to put across. There is no nap time per se when there are lots of work.. but as far as I know, the student care still allow the students some inner peace time. Just that they won't be able to take out their sleeping bags and lie down. If there is time constraint, the students will just sit at their desk for some peace and quiet time.. or even rest their head on the table. Possible that different class have different way of doing things.

As for spelling, my kids are in Witty and Wisely. My son in Wisely has a spelling book which ProTeach will 'rehearse' with them. But so far I have not seen such books.