2014 TOP PSLE T-SCORE (EXCL HMT) - THE MAGIC 3D NUMBERS
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Nebbermind:
Same case around my friends, especially those in the very popular primary schools, the scores is around 10 points below their expectationI noticed mostly disappointment around me this year.
Is it just me or did the cohort performed lower than expectation? -
I noticed mostly disappointment around me this year.
Is it just me or did the cohort performed lower than expectation?
Same case around my friends, especially those in the very popular primary schools, the scores is around 10 points below their expectation
Are the papers considered tough this year? -
quixation:
What i meant was searching for highest t score instead of looking at mean average of the cohort or national levels. Sure t score helps in COP and gauging a pupil's competency in the respective subjects..but emphasising on who & which school and which race was the top student who obtained the highest t score, i *scratch head*
It's for different purposes. Personally, I have no interest in the actual students who attained the top scores, although I can imagine how others might want to use that information.
To me, transparency of t-scores (especially average t-scores and standard deviations) allows parents to understand better the progress made by individual schools and provide some basis for comparing schools. The Ministry cannot convince parents that all schools are good schools simply by saying it repeatedly. We know that schools are not the same despite having the same syllabus, because the demographics and skill sets of the faculty and students are different. But we do believe that the average Singaporean school is probably good enough to train top scholars. Being transparent with t-scores would allow parents to see for themselves how far off are the average neighbourhood schools from the elite ones. It is extremely gratifying for me to see top scholars coming from neighbourhood schools, and how the average t-scores of students graduating from some of these schools are not so far off from the elite ones. Such transparency will also put pressure on MOE to do something about the schools with consistently low average t-scores, aside from just saying that all schools are good schools. -
amused dad : Any idea if he fr MS or GEP? Someone was sharing that he’s an Indian boy. Congrats ACSP for this awesome 280 score.
ACSP 280 is from GEP.
He is a Muslim boy of mixed ethnicity - Indian dad and Chinese mum -
alng:
In theory, 50% of the pupils who took the PSLE last year >= 200
Yes, I also agree that 200 is not national average.phtthp:
National average is not 200
200 is the minimum T score to enter Express stream
66% gets into Express stream....so what is the likely national average? Anyone very good at maths can estimate and reason this? haha!
So at 66%, the T-score will be < 200. It used to be 188. But with the T-score generally lower by about 5-10 points in 2013 and 204, it is likely to be between 178 and 183 to qualify for Express. -
Nebbermind:
I also heard the same comments. In fact someone was telling me the except the top scorers, Tscore was on average 10% lower for the cohort in general. So won't be surprised to see a gap between the top and the rest.I noticed mostly disappointment around me this year.
Is it just me or did the cohort performed lower than expectation? -
meekopeeko:
Are the papers considered tough this year?
No. The papers have been easier in the last 2 years, which is the reason why higher t-scores are much harder to attain.
Easier papers => more people get higher marks => higher mean scores => lower t-scores
I think those who are disappointed with lower t-scores are mostly high and outstanding achievers who wanted to prove that they stand out from the crowd. But if standards are lowered, it is much harder to do so. -
ChiefKiasu:
if standards are lowered, then there will more students in the middle range, which means more students competing for places in the secondary schools in that range.meekopeeko:
Are the papers considered tough this year?
No. The papers have been easier in the last 2 years, which is the reason why higher t-scores are much harder to attain.
Easier papers => more people get higher marks => higher mean scores => lower t-scores
I think those who are disappointed with lower t-scores are mostly high and outstanding achievers who wanted to prove that they stand out from the crowd. But if standards are lowered, it is much harder to do so. -
janet88:
if standards are lowered, then there will more students in the middle range, which means more students competing for places in the secondary schools in that range.[/quote]Does that mean this year COP would drop 1-2 points (or more) for schools with higher COP, and increase 1-2 points (or more) for schools with lower COP?ChiefKiasu:
[quote=\"meekopeeko\"]Are the papers considered tough this year?
No. The papers have been easier in the last 2 years, which is the reason why higher t-scores are much harder to attain.
Easier papers => more people get higher marks => higher mean scores => lower t-scores
I think those who are disappointed with lower t-scores are mostly high and outstanding achievers who wanted to prove that they stand out from the crowd. But if standards are lowered, it is much harder to do so. -
janet88:
That's why those affliated pupils in good primary schools are very lucky, if they are heading for O level.
if standards are lowered, then there will more students in the middle range, which means more students competing for places in the secondary schools in that range.
Else have to rely on merit (T score), to enter good Secondary schools.
Even those who appeal (case by case basis) -
also need to depend on how far off are they off from Cut off point, plus Secondary schools also look into what kind of CCAs they had taken, in their primary schools.
If appeal queue is very long :
more than 50 to 100 pupils, Sec schools will look into CCA role, leadership, etc, beyond looking at academic T score.
Those who received CO from DSA also lucky, because spared from headache of choosing Sec schools.
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