2014 TOP PSLE T-SCORE (EXCL HMT) - THE MAGIC 3D NUMBERS
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sinoboy:
You can look like a 华人 but it doesn't mean you can utter a single word of 华语 using your mother's tongue. I think the call for removal of MT scoring is firstly comparing t score between different MT is not apple to apple, and secondly some people's mother's tongue MT is their father's tongue FT first language. If MT is FT then their MT score will be higher which gives them an advantage at PSLE. So don't count MT might level the playing field. But with the complete removal of t scores, no such problems anymore.
:goodpost:BeContented:
[quote=\"lee_yl\"]My daughter scored band 1 for all subjects except for MT. While the option proposed by bekithia appeared attractive, the thought of removing MT (so that my dd can enter the best sec school) never cross my mind simply because we are 华人。Instead I plan to help my dd improve her standard of Chinese for her new school year.
Seriously speaking, by removing MT, the likely outcome is that time and effort will be diverted to the remaining 3 subjects and not even bother to start, not to mention about appreciating the beauty of Chinese later in life. As an analogy, if French or Spanish is not a PSLE subject, how many students will spend the energy to study them?
It may be extreme, but look at how PRCs pick up English, literally reading the dictionary from cover to cover. Not easy for them to pick up English.
As an alternative, instead of removing MT from PSLE, why not consider removing English? What do you think will happen overnight? It won't be surprising to see our Chinese standard improve by leaps and bounds overnight.
Strange that only Singapore Chinese have problems with MT, never hear Malays or Tamils complain about their MT.
I agree. I too have noticed that other races hardly complain & some even take Chinese. We are 华人.....
[/quote]Surest way to further lower the standard of MT. malaysia does not have such problem, and higher CL standard
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pirated:
Surest way to further lower the standard of MT. malaysia does not have such problem, and higher CL standard[/quote]You can't compare with Malaysia.
You can look like a 华人 but it doesn't mean you can utter a single word of 华语 using your mother's tongue. I think the call for removal of MT scoring is firstly comparing t score between different MT is not apple to apple, and secondly some people's mother's tongue MT is their father's tongue FT first language. If MT is FT then their MT score will be higher which gives them an advantage at PSLE. So don't count MT might level the playing field. But with the complete removal of t scores, no such problems anymore.sinoboy:
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:goodpost:
I agree. I too have noticed that other races hardly complain & some even take Chinese. We are 华人.....
The English, math, n science standards are much lower there. -
The challenges we face in learning Chinese in Singapore are unique and no other country is experiencing this.
In many countries, the non-mother-tongue Chinese is learned as a second or third language usually by adults or grown up children. Only in Singapore, the mother-tongue Chinese is learned as a second language by young children. -
mother777:
Hahaha yup forgot to mention Hindi along with tamil..Hindi also don't have resources. I totally agree..here..
I have not seen any Hindi assessment or text book in popular or other bookshops..
If a language is offered at MOE school, the respective resources must be made available to public
Yeah... If you know whom I should approach in MOE let me know. DAV and Hindi Society out there to suck money only; only shake leg. Parents need to put double effort . Hindi marks absolutely not transparent. -
pupilview:
Best person to approach is mr S K Heng, tel 68796000mother777:
Hahaha yup forgot to mention Hindi along with tamil..Hindi also don't have resources. I totally agree..here..
I have not seen any Hindi assessment or text book in popular or other bookshops..
If a language is offered at MOE school, the respective resources must be made available to public
Yeah... If you know whom I should approach in MOE let me know. DAV and Hindi Society out there to suck money only; only shake leg. Parents need to put double effort . Hindi marks absolutely not transparent. -
Is there any typo error in the PSLE tscore list…how can greenridge primary school average tscore is 244…?? Which is higher than those ‘top’ popular school…
I am just curious… -
alng:
The challenges we face in learning Chinese in Singapore are unique and no other country is experiencing this.
In many countries, the non-mother-tongue Chinese is learned as a second or third language usually by adults or grown up children. Only in Singapore, the mother-tongue Chinese is learned as a second language by young children.
Do you realise many parents suddenly :mad: :mad: :mad: when someone suggested excluding MT in psle t-score? This topic is indeed very touchy!
Malaysian Chinese have to learn Chinese without the govt supporting them. On top of that, they still have to learn Malay to survive in Malaysia and also English in order to work in Singapore.
We may not realise that but over the years, every generation is doing well in their MT! My mother can speak Hakka because that's my grandma's MT. I did well in Chinese because my mother conversed in mandarin with me. My children are also doing well in \"MT\" :evil: because we speak English at home. This shows that children in different generations can pick up languages naturally, be it Hokkien, Teochew, Cantonese, Mandarin or English.
More households are English speaking nowadays (maybe with the perception that speaking Mandarin is not as refined/atas?) and as a result, only in Singapore, the mother-tongue Chinese is learned as a second language by young children.
How children learn their MT also depends largely on the daily use of the language at home. -
abachee:
Once MOE implement this change wef don't know which year coming, blank out T-score, everything hidden, no longer Transparent, become a mysterious black box :-Talk and discuss so much and the result is still like that.
You can cry and moan as much as you like until the Cow comes home, but the T-score will soon be abolish as mention by our prime minister.
Hence, all psle will be gauge just like O level.
Whether you dun like it or not, it's here to stay. Either you accept it or ship out. That's the life in Singapore.
- you won't even be able to list down what Secondary schools you want to choose, because you don't even know whether your child qualify for RI First Tier Sec school, or qualify for second Tier Secondary schools, or qualify for other lower ranking Sec schools, since everything become unknown, become a black box, once T-score is blanked out, entirely from the knowledge of parents.
The band, or the range of marks allocated, can be very wide.
More chaos, more confusion, more controversy.
\"How one fail to enter, or how one die\" : also unknown.
Now at least parents can list down 6 choices of Sec schools in their application to Sec schools, because we know our child's T-score and roughly what COP the Sec schools last year had.
This helps to guide us, to list down our choices.
Wait until This new change : when the time comes, blank out T-score -
A lot of parents will be lost, because everything hush hush, behind closed door. Create even more stress for parents.
Give me back the T-score, anytime.
Let T-score remain
seriously hope my child's batch able to escape all these black box mystery. We don't need them -
gracelcf2:
and there are suddenly quite a few 299s with RGPS top score at 295...true or not :?Is there any typo error in the PSLE tscore list...how can greenridge primary school average tscore is 244...?? Which is higher than those ‘top' popular school...
I am just curious.... -
niko1121:
There are a few entries made by a Dr Ssue. This is a new account. Looks like someone is trying to sabotage the data collection.
and there are suddenly quite a few 299s with RGPS top score at 295...true or not :?gracelcf2:
Is there any typo error in the PSLE tscore list...how can greenridge primary school average tscore is 244...?? Which is higher than those ‘top' popular school...
I am just curious....
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