* Eunoia JC (EJC)

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as expected. nothing unreasonable

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zeemimi:

This Q&A, go or don't go, is not going to change much.

Because nothing can change the soil condition nor the planned mrt tunnels

[Sun_2010]

lee_yl:

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Every generation is a strawberry generation to the earlier ones. Our parents and grandparents lived through The Great Depression, Japanese Occupation, race riots and many more, so who are we to snidely comment that our children are strawberries when we are likewise strawberries in our parents and grandparents' eyes?

I do not agree. No doubt standards of living improve over generations. Hence endurance and resilience may be of different measures. However, we should let our children be exposed to some 'hardship' which is not even deemed as hard in the past. Do not over-protect and make them strawberries.
Speak for yourself. I ain't no strawberry in the eyes of my parents and grandparents but a resilient apple.

I don't care if you call yourself a resilient apple or redoubtable orange, we are not an orchard here.

Wow that was a really pleasant comment. Anything not supporting you is indeed a distraction.

It is interesting that a thread for a new IPJC has so many distracting posts making snide remarks and comments while trying to avoid the key issues; firstly, there has been a series of mistakes committed by MOE that has resulted in parents being unhappy. Secondly, the lack of clarity and information leave parents in the dark and uncertain as well as worried.

If the affected parents choose to vent their frustration in an open forum using words, everyone can just make an effort to empathise, be sensitive and not make negative comments unnecessarily.[/quote]Why?
Hmm a lot of us have kids in IP schools take about 45min to an hour one way to school all six years. In the same crowded mrt , during the same peak hours that somehow just comes to your attention. Honestly , it is hard to feel empathy .

Meet up with school/MOE , ask explanations, work out arrangements, I am fine with that. But acting as if a grave injustice has been meted out to the kids - playing the victim card, oh puleeze ! It has melted the traces of empathy I felt.

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We have apple, orange, strawberry, so far - anyone going to bring in durian kokonut ?

[lee_yl]

Sun_2010:

Why?
Hmm a lot of us have kids in IP schools take about 45min to an hour one way to school all six years. In the same crowded mrt , during the same peak hours that somehow just comes to your attention. Honestly , it is hard to feel empathy .

Meet up with school/MOE , ask explanations, work out arrangements, I am fine with that. But acting as if a grave injustice has been meted out to the kids - playing the victim card, oh puleeze ! It has melted the traces of empathy I felt.

Again, missing out the whole point deliberately, perhaps?

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I think I would have been as indignant as the affected parents if it had happened to me.


It’s one thing knowing where the school is and sending my kid to the school knowing from the start that my kid will, for sure, travel for more than an hour for 6 years, and another to have a beautiful picture of what and where the school will be like to get a nasty shock later.

There are quite a few things to get upset about if I were an affected parent:

1) the time frame - the promised time was mid 2018 and now it’s end 2019. I think the diff is very the great lor. Delayed by a bit, people still can understand. Delayed by such a large margin - who has been sleeping?

2) the venue itself - you can’t deny that there are parents who choose schools based on proximity. After all, isn’t this the greatest concern of many parents during P1 registration? If you look at the highest T-scores in various neighbourhood schools, there are students who enter those really neighbourhood schools at 260+. I am quite sure these students just want to go to the nearest possible school and hence the ‘strange’ phenomenon.

Not everyone wants to go to RI or HCI so please don’t shove them down everyone’s throat.

3) the integrity of the promise/vision itself
If I had been one of the parents, I would not know how to trust the authorities with their vision anymore. They are not any Tom, Dick or Harry that you find on the street. They are entrusted with such an important mission, and they could mess it up. What else can I trust them with?

4) enjoyment of the promised facilities
I hope I get this right and you are free to point it out if I am wrong. I read somewhere that IP was introduced when the 2012 batch of students were due to choose their secondary schools. If it had been completed in mid 2018, the students could still enjoy half a year of the new JC? Now that it’s postponed to end of 2019, these pioneer students don’t even get to smell the promised building. I would be quite miffed if I were one of the students.

It doesn’t feel quite the same if you have never set foot in the building. It doesn’t feel like the school’s yours. Hope it’s not too abstract.

All in all, I feel that it’s completely justified for the affected parents to feel very upset by the (lack of) arrangement.

I feel that just becos we are not in the situation, we should not feel entitled to pass snide remarks about being strawberries. Like that it’s kinda durian to me - spiky and smelly. And we shouldn’t be pineapples and papayas either - a pregnant colleague shared with me that these two fruits have enzymes that dissolve foetus (students). Not old wives’ tale hor. Instead, let’s be watermelons - sweet and refreshing.

[25HMOM]

Thank you, jetsetter, for the various attachments.


Perhaps the light refreshments for the Q&A session should include strawberries, apples, oranges, water melons, durians, papaya, pineapples & kokonuts too.

I particularly like this assurance that "MOE works with all schools to ensure the best possible educational experience for all our students. Every student’s educational experience is equally important to us and we have a duty to try to look after all students’ interests as much as possible in a reasonably balanced manner".
MOE, I salute you!

[25HMOM]

zeemimi:

This Q&A, go or don't go, is not going to change much.

Yeah, whatever transparencies needed are all laid down.

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25HMOM:

Thank you, jetsetter, for the various attachments.


Perhaps the light refreshments for the Q&A session should include strawberries, apples, oranges, water melons, durians, papaya, pineapples & kokonuts too.

I particularly like this assurance that \"MOE works with all schools to ensure the best possible educational experience for all our students. Every student's educational experience is equally important to us and we have a duty to try to look after all students' interests as much as possible in a reasonably balanced manner\".
MOE, I salute you!

The sobering fact is : one man's meat is another's poison. Moe won't be able to please and placate everyone. Some just won't be able to accept circumstances outside of everyone's control, eg soil condition. Unless they want another Nicoll Highway or Hotel New World.