* Eunoia JC (EJC)

[Nebbermind]

zeemimi:

Nebbermind:

I'm more curious what CCA holds the kids back past dinner time. Surely if there's safety concerns, parents can request that all CCA must end no later than, say, 7pm

lol .... most cca end by 7pm. It's the kids themselves want to stay behind chit chat chit chat.

Then better not bring it up during dialogue

[jetsetter]

sinoboy:

jetsetter:

Christopher De Souza, MP for Ghim Moh and


Minister Chan...

Both studied at that Mt Senai campus before. :shock:

So did Jo Teo of Bishan I posted above.

She will rubbish u if u say Mt Sinai unsafe! And to add, she studied at old DHS at Tg Katong, but travelled all the way to Mt Sinai for 2 yrs.

So there... :shock:

[DennisB]

jetsetter:

lee_yl:

This is just like the non-stop argument about distance and walking time, now when there is talk about nighttime safety in the area, this group of forumers would just appear


For affected parents, it is about information sharing and those who are concerned can just make a trip down to the Ghim Moh area behind the side-gate of the school at night to see for yourselves. If there is a need for better lit paths and more street lights, please raise it during the dialogue session on 25 May.

We \"appear\" because we've studied at Mt Sinai before, know people living in that area and/or live around that area. I don't think it's that bad. I'm sure if these concerns are valid, MOE will contact Christopher De Souza, MP for Ghim Moh and work something out there.

But does it mean after adding all the lights and increase frequency of patrols, parents will be willing to go to Mt Sinai? :scratchhead:


I gather that you are also from RJ from what you have written
This is so DISGRACEFUL
Please do not tarnish the name of RJ with your unrelenting ungracious vindictive attitude. Go read fellow alumnae Sandra Leong's letter dated Apr 3 2010 \"Scoring high in grades but not in values\"

[sushi88]

So in summary, instead of helping MOE to market Mt Sinai positively, it leaves a worser impression about Mt Sinai.


MOE wonders if these detractors are helping them or stabbing them...their job on 25 May is in fact made tougher by so much animosity shown to the aggrieved group.

Questions:
1. If they successful get another interim site within Bishan or if MOE can try to put them back in Bishan ITE with conditions attached, will the detractors be unhappy? Why? :?

2. If MOE agreed to the transfers given the results must match the JC they want to transfer to, will the detractors be unhappy? why? :?

For me, any win-win outcome, I will :celebrate: to both parties.

Just to give your some confidence boosting, I have worked out a number of win-win solutions with different government sectors before. They seriously listen and if you put up a proper and reasonable case, you at least earn yourself a chance to be listened and will not live with any regrets that you have not tried and just silently accept what has been dished out to you. Do not be bitter or disappointed if say, the outcome is not favourable because the experience is also very precious for your future causes. I strongly believe the days of \"I say, you listen\" is diminishing if our education has given us the means to earn the rights of \"You say, I listen\" from them. My experience tells me they welcome good ideas too. But if we adopt the \"you wrong, I right\" and bulldozes through case, then that would not work either...so work on your case and don't spend any more time fighting a futile argument here.

Come here to ask for information if you need and see if a good Samaritan picks it up and replies you.

[pirated]

It is really disgraceful some parents resort to MISinformation just because they don’t like the place and this is not their promised land.


First about distance then about being an unsafe place. Really disgraceful

And not happy when pointed out they are fear mongering among the parents.

MOE and LTA and Home team won’t just accept all these nonsense as truth. Hope they won’t be pressured by unhappy parents.

[cherryc]

sushi88:

So in summary, instead of helping MOE to market Mt Sinai positively, it leaves a worser impression about Mt Sinai.


MOE wonders if these detractors are helping them or stabbing them...their job on 25 May is in fact made tougher by so much animosity shown to the aggrieved group.

Questions:
1. If they successful get another interim site within Bishan or if MOE can try to put them back in Bishan ITE with conditions attached, will the detractors be unhappy? Why? :?

2. If MOE agreed to the transfers given the results must match the JC they want to transfer to, will the detractors be unhappy? why? :?

For me, any win-win outcome, I will :celebrate: to both parties.

Just to give your some confidence boosting, I have worked out a number of win-win solutions with different government sectors before. They seriously listen and if you put up a proper and reasonable case, you at least earn yourself a chance to be listened and will not live with any regrets that you have not tried and just silently accept what has been dished out to you. Do not be bitter or disappointed if say, the outcome is not favourable because the experience is also very precious for your future causes. I strongly believe the days of \"I say, you listen\" is diminishing if our education has given us the means to earn the rights of \"You say, I listen\" from them. My experience tells me they welcome good ideas too. But if we adopt the \"you wrong, I right\" and bulldozes through case, then that would not work either...so work on your case and don't spend any more time fighting a futile argument here.

Come here to ask for information if you need and see if a good Samaritan picks it up and replies you.

It is really disgraceful to see disgraceful unaffected parents saying disgraceful things and don't know they are being disgraceful.

Hopefully aggrieved parents will ask why in the first place they are being subjected to all these. If things had gone as planned, there won't be this thread and all the sick irrelevant comments.

This should make them all the more question why this has happened and seek for better solution. And we all can learn something from this \"disgraceful\" experience and avoid this in future.

[lee_yl]

pirated:

It is really disgraceful some parents resort to MISinformation just because they don't like the place and this is not their promised land.


First about distance then about being an unsafe place. Really disgraceful

And not happy when pointed out they are fear mongering among the parents.

MOE and LTA and Home team won't just accept all these nonsense as truth. Hope they won't be pressured by unhappy parents.

Where was the fear mongering when what was said was simply that a number of blocks in Ghim Moh had been demolished and that the place appeared deserted at night? It is not a case of \"you say, I say\". The possible concerns about the place being deserted at night could be easily checked out by the parents themselves.

Funny that some folks get so worked up when affected parents are perhaps only going to request for brighter lit paths and more street lamps?

[lee_yl]

jetsetter:

So did Jo Teo of Bishan I posted above.

She will rubbish u if u say Mt Sinai unsafe! And to add, she studied at old DHS at Tg Katong, but travelled all the way to Mt Sinai for 2 yrs.

So there... :shock:

睫小姐，

There is some misunderstanding :?

There is nothing about Mt Sinai being unsafe, simply that AFTER 2012, a number of blocks in Ghim Moh underwent SERS and some were demolished leaving the whole area rather deserted at night. An affected friend of mine was sufficiently concerned and would like to request for more street lights, that's all.

Unfortunately, some chose to misrepresent the situation as if I was talking about murder and rape!

[stetan]

pirated:

It is really disgraceful some parents resort to MISinformation just because they don't like the place and this is not their promised land.


First about distance then about being an unsafe place. Really disgraceful

And not happy when pointed out they are fear mongering among the parents.

MOE and LTA and Home team won't just accept all these nonsense as truth. Hope they won't be pressured by unhappy parents.

Do you have a child in one of the affected schools or are you from MOE?

Why do you have to call parents who disagree with your views \"disgraceful\" ? Should there not be some civility in this forum?

[TTBCOOL]

pirated:

lee_yl:

[quote=\"pirated\"]facts are hard to swallow when one is prejudiced to the location without setting foot on it. with wounded pride and wounded ego, it is impossible to try

[/quote]
I don't understand what pride you are referring? If there is, I think our pride and ego are wounded by your mean remarks. Maybe, it is more appropriate to talk about \"right\" instead of \"pride\" here. Every individual has the right to fight for their own right if they deem that it is not acceptable. The affected parents are just trying very hard to fight for what rightfully should have and the best solutions/alternatives to the problems. Whereas, some of the unaffected parents just asked the affected parents to accept the fact and obey.