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    All About Ballet

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      Porky Pig
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      phtthp:
      Hi Porky,


      If Ms Blue (Tr Lan Minli) don't take in your girl : can try Tr Mdm Lim Beng Soon (Geylang Serai cc). Ms Blue may not like to take in or accept kids, that join her very late.

      Mdm Lim is a very good experienced ballet Teacher, kind, and patient. She is able to help kids catch up ballet steps, fast. Mdm Lim is good !

      For primary level grade (born 2009), under Mdm Lim : currently 6 Kids only, small class.
      Your daughter (K2) should have no problem fitting in.
      Mdm Lim Extra coaching class starting in October (third week), after Term 4 primary school academic exam.
      Your girl is just in time, for coaching class (Sunday), she can take Primary grade exam, next April 2016.

      To me, small class about : 6 to 8 kids
      There is advantage, in small class.
      Tr pay attention to individual kid, much better.
      Big class : 12 to 20 kids (kid hard to concentrate, on detailed ballet step, step by step)
      Thanks Phtthp. I am also concerned about the 20 kids in her class but she is known to be very strict so may not be a bad thing if she can control her class. I am going for trial this Sun. See how my DD likes it or not. Now I am concerned about getting my $$$ back from her current school. I am hoping to get a refund for Term 4 plus my deposit.

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        Porky Pig:
        Thanks Phtthp. I am also concerned about the 20 kids in her class but she is known to be very strict so may not be a bad thing if she can control her class. I am going for trial this Sun. See how my DD likes it or not. Now I am concerned about getting my $$$ back from her current school. I am hoping to get a refund for Term 4 plus my deposit.

        Yes, the teacher-students chemistry is very important. Another important factor is take note is the students in the class. Many times, especially girls at higher levels stayed on with peer support, when the journey gets really tough. When your daughter is doing the trial, try speaking to those mummies who are waiting for their daughters from the same class. From the mummies, you can get a little glimpse of the students' profiles in the class. Some kids are naturally more friendly than others. After the trial, ask your daughter if she likes those friends in her class - she may not know them and they may not have accepted her into their group, but kids does have a good 6th sense if they like the atmosphere.

        It is really tough to find a right fit. DD started ballet at age 4. She is 9 now, still with the same teacher and 80% of the class are still together. A long journey (more to come), training for her grade 4 exams next year, I am grateful amidst the training, she found good bonding with the teacher and her friends.

        Good luck! Am sure you will find the right fit.

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          Porky Pig
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          Oh My Gosh:
          Porky Pig:

          Thanks Phtthp. I am also concerned about the 20 kids in her class but she is known to be very strict so may not be a bad thing if she can control her class. I am going for trial this Sun. See how my DD likes it or not. Now I am concerned about getting my $$$ back from her current school. I am hoping to get a refund for Term 4 plus my deposit.


          Yes, the teacher-students chemistry is very important. Another important factor is take note is the students in the class. Many times, especially girls at higher levels stayed on with peer support, when the journey gets really tough. When your daughter is doing the trial, try speaking to those mummies who are waiting for their daughters from the same class. From the mummies, you can get a little glimpse of the students' profiles in the class. Some kids are naturally more friendly than others. After the trial, ask your daughter if she likes those friends in her class - she may not know them and they may not have accepted her into their group, but kids does have a good 6th sense if they like the atmosphere.

          It is really tough to find a right fit. DD started ballet at age 4. She is 9 now, still with the same teacher and 80% of the class are still together. A long journey (more to come), training for her grade 4 exams next year, I am grateful amidst the training, she found good bonding with the teacher and her friends.

          Good luck! Am sure you will find the right fit.

          Thanks for your post. My DD loves to dance and she started ballet at 4 years old too. Back then, she had a good and passionate ballet teacher who left when she was 5 plus. Now they kept changing teachers and timing. Anyway I will keep supporting her in her ballet until the day she wants to quit.

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            Porky Pig
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            Oh my goodness, I have been paying $380 for 12 lessons at my DD’s current ballet school. The one at the cc by Ms Blue is only $95 for 10 lessons. So much difference man.

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              Porky Pig:
              Oh my goodness, I have been paying $380 for 12 lessons at my DD's current ballet school. The one at the cc by Ms Blue is only $95 for 10 lessons. So much difference man.

              You must know that it is CC rates versus ballet school rates. In a CC, the number of students are usually more than 15 versus average 8 in a ballet school. And if new students register, CC will continue to take in new students, which may affect the development of the existing students. Nevertheless, yes, CC is definitely more value for money.

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                Oh My Gosh:
                Porky Pig:

                Oh my goodness, I have been paying $380 for 12 lessons at my DD's current ballet school. The one at the cc by Ms Blue is only $95 for 10 lessons. So much difference man.


                You must know that it is CC rates versus ballet school rates. In a CC, the number of students are usually more than 15 versus average 8 in a ballet school. And if new students register, CC will continue to take in new students, which may affect the development of the existing students. Nevertheless, yes, CC is definitely more value for money.

                I was doing this analysis yesterday. In a CC, the max no of students is 24. So that means 24 x $9.50 per lesson = $228. In a ballet school, it is 8 x $31.6 = $253. Hopefully it will be more stable in CC meaning little disruption and changes to teacher and timing.

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                  Porky Pig:
                  Oh My Gosh:


                  You must know that it is CC rates versus ballet school rates. In a CC, the number of students are usually more than 15 versus average 8 in a ballet school. And if new students register, CC will continue to take in new students, which may affect the development of the existing students.

                  Nevertheless, yes, CC is definitely more value for money.

                  I was doing this analysis yesterday.

                  In a CC, the max no of students is 24. So that means 24 x $9.50 per lesson = $228.

                  In a ballet school, it is 8 x $31.6 = $253.

                  Hopefully it will be more stable in CC meaning little disruption and changes to teacher and timing.

                  In a Cc :
                  Ballet Tr only earn 60%, while Cc take 40% : provide rental dance studio space, electricity, light supply, air con.

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                    Oh My Gosh
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                    Porky Pig:


                    I was doing this analysis yesterday. In a CC, the max no of students is 24. So that means 24 x $9.50 per lesson = $228. In a ballet school, it is 8 x $31.6 = $253. Hopefully it will be more stable in CC meaning little disruption and changes to teacher and timing.
                    Yes, CC less likely to make changes as will end up impacting more than 20 students. My DD has been learning ballet from CC for the past 5 years, at the same timing. So your DD will be joining Ms Blue class?

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                      Oh My Gosh:
                      Porky Pig:



                      I was doing this analysis yesterday. In a CC, the max no of students is 24. So that means 24 x $9.50 per lesson = $228. In a ballet school, it is 8 x $31.6 = $253. Hopefully it will be more stable in CC meaning little disruption and changes to teacher and timing.

                      Yes, CC less likely to make changes as will end up impacting more than 20 students. My DD has been learning ballet from CC for the past 5 years, at the same timing. So your DD will be joining Ms Blue class?

                      Trial lesson on Sun 5pm. She does not take in anymore new students. She wants to see whether my DD can catch up with the steps or not. If everything goes well, I will sign her up for both regular class + coaching class. I am keeping my fingers :xedfingers: that both will like each other.

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                        phtthp
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                        Porky Pig:

                        Trial lesson on Sun 5pm. She does not take in anymore new students. She wants to see whether my DD can catch up with the steps or not. If everything goes well, I will sign her up for both regular class + coaching class. I am keeping my fingers :xedfingers: that both will like each other.
                        if your daughter had been learning primary grade ballet since May, should be ok, because she had been learning all this while.

                        your girl should have no issue catching up (since she had been learning her existing grade already), not to worry 🙂

                        Kids who have problem catching up -
                        are those who never learn ballet at all since May due to whatever reasons (after April exam ended : the next ballet grade or level start), & only want to start joining now, when extra coaching class about to start.
                        Ah, that's when they start to encounter problem, because missed out past 5 months' of learning the steps (5 months : missed out attendance from May to Sep), which is a lot, hard to catch up ! Unless they don't take exam next year, just attend lesson only, then ok.

                        in cases like this (missed a lot of lessons) -
                        depend on individual ballet Teacher.

                        Some Teacher very strict.
                        She may say : \"I will assess your daughter's performance, come next year.
                        It all depend on your girl's learning attitude and performance, from now until May next year\".

                        a) if pupil able to catch up
                        then I will let your girl take one level higher grade, next year.

                        example
                        say, a kid now learning Grade 1 ballet, but missed a lot of lessons, since May.

                        assuming that kid able to catch up, then come next May : this strict Tr will allow her to start learning Grade 2.
                        That means the girl did not take Grade 1 exam, but can still proceed forward, to learn Grade 2 ballet next year.
                        In ballet, can skip exam.
                        doesn't mean that if did not take Grade 1 exam, cannot go onto Grade 2.


                        b) But, if pupil unable to catch up

                        say, kid now in Grade 1 ballet.

                        assuming that kid unable to catch up, then come next May 2016, this strict Tr will only allow her to re-start Grade 1 steps, all over again, cannot proceed to Grade 2.

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