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    Dunman High School (Junior High)

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    • C Offline
      cmm
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      My daughter wants to drop TRP next year. She’s in Year 1 this year. I’d like to check with fellow parents, is TRP important? What are the consequences of dropping TRP? My daughter is citing lack of interest and busy schedule as reasons to drop this subject. She currently does 3rd language, has CO as her CCA, and does ballet twice a week.


      Would appreciate some advice on this. Thank you!

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        friesbeforeguys
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        cmm:
        My daughter wants to drop TRP next year. She's in Year 1 this year. I'd like to check with fellow parents, is TRP important? What are the consequences of dropping TRP? My daughter is citing lack of interest and busy schedule as reasons to drop this subject. She currently does 3rd language, has CO as her CCA, and does ballet twice a week.


        Would appreciate some advice on this. Thank you!
        hi!! i just signed up cos i wanted to reply to this!! Hi mdm/sir!!! i'm a year 3 in dhs this year and i'm also from CO!!!! i'd rlly want to know ur daughter haha! and YESS!!!! IT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN DHS!!! it's compulsory for the first 2 years in DHS, but trust me no one likes it at all... tbh i failed my TRP back then, but kinda regret it now. as u know, dhs has its own learning system and starting from year 3, students are able to choose what type of TRP category to study ONLY if he/she's results reach the requirements 🙂 so ya, it's quite a rare opportunity so it will definitely benefit ur child in future! 😕 but maybe if u dont want ur daughter to be so stressted out, maybe drop 3rd lang? ballet? oh yes there will be this 双文化 in year 3 so get ur child to study hard and get into this programme!!! highly recommended :)) hope i helped haha 😄

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          besty
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          How do we know how DHS fairs in terms of A level performance? When searching for A level performance school ranking, I found that DHS is always being left out! All the JCs are listed by ranking but there is no DHS! I believe DHS should rank number 3, after RJC and HCI, since by PSLE cop it’s ranked number 5, after nygs, ri, rgs & hci?


          At the moment, the ranking goes: RJC, hci, njc, Vjc, …
          Where does Dhs stand?

          Maybe Moe should change the status of Dhs from being a secondary school to a junior college

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          • phtthpP Offline
            phtthp
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            besty:
            How do we know how DHS fairs in terms of A level performance? When searching for A level performance school ranking, I found that DHS is always being left out! All the JCs are listed by ranking but there is no DHS! I believe DHS should rank number 3, after RJC and HCI, since by PSLE cop it's ranked number 5, after nygs, ri, rgs & hci?


            At the moment, the ranking goes: RJC, hci, njc, Vjc, ....
            Where does Dhs stand?

            Maybe Moe should change the status of Dhs from being a secondary school to a junior college
            Dunman ranked #3, in A level ?
            You sure ?
            still got VJC, NJC

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              besty
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              Not sure, that’s why I am hoping to find out!

              By right if there is nothing wrong with DHS’s IP program, DHS Should rank number THREE in A level performance. I am assuming that the same batch of good students who entered DHS S1 with the FIFTH HIGHEST PSLE COP in the country, will emerge just as good (only after nygs, to, rgs, hci).
              Vic’s IP is not proven. Their first batch of IP has not finished A levels yet. Njc I don’t know, should be on par with DHS, again, I am using their psle cop as a gauge.

              Another way of putting my point across is: since DHS received a batch of S1 students who did better in psle compared to say Vic (on average, based on psle cop), at the end of 6 years, I would expect DHS’s A level performance is better than Vjc’s IP batch. If not, then something is not good enough about DHS’s IP program, or maybe namely the year 5 & 6 program.

              Does this make sense?

              Still, I wish I know where DHS stands in terms of A level performance!

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              • phtthpP Offline
                phtthp
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                besty:
                Not sure, that's why I am hoping to find out!

                By right if there is nothing wrong with DHS's IP program, DHS Should rank number THREE in A level performance. I am assuming that the same batch of good students who entered DHS S1 with the FIFTH HIGHEST PSLE COP in the country, will emerge just as good (only after nygs, to, rgs, hci).
                Vic's IP is not proven. Their first batch of IP has not finished A levels yet. Njc I don't know, should be on par with DHS, again, I am using their psle cop as a gauge.

                Another way of putting my point across is: since DHS received a batch of S1 students who did better in psle compared to say Vic (on average, based on psle cop), at the end of 6 years, I would expect DHS's A level performance is better than Vjc's IP batch. If not, then something is not good enough about DHS's IP program, or maybe namely the year 5 & 6 program.

                Does this make sense?

                Still, I wish I know where DHS stands in terms of A level performance!
                No lah, don't make sense, bec yr assumption is limited, based only on psle cut off point intake

                A) vjc, njc take in jae students with excellent good O level results plus CCA skill, and these group of jae students also sit for A level, contribute to A level results.

                B) you assume that good psle t score can enter dunman high naturally translated into good A level results. Wrong assumption !
                Why ?
                From psle to A level : 6 long years so long, anything can happen
                If child encounter bgr problem, or over committed in CCA, or no technique in time management play too many computer games in Sec school, or can't cope with IP curriculum, or family background issue, or for whatever personal reasons got distracted, lose focus in study, that's it.

                There are also students who managed to dsa successfully into Dunman High amongst P6 cohort, through Sports, dance, etc & their T-score very far away from DHS Cut off point, more than 20 points difference away. Although they managed to enter, but some of them faced a challenging school life ahead, in IP. To begin with, when they step in, they are already at bottom of the ocean cohort.
                If one say, miss by a few 3 points away from Cut off point, ok.
                But if miss by more than 20 points difference, that's a lot of difference, start to question : is this child really suitable, fit for IP academic rigor ?

                Btw, there are students inside dunman high that cannot cope with IP, for whatever reasons they faced personally.
                As a result, there is one class formed, for them to take O level, if can't cope.
                After take O level, if they want to resume A level in dunman high or goto another junior college, they can choose.
                However, some prefer to go to other JC instead of resume A level in dunman high because the kids inside the O level class feel piaseh, because their fellow peers are aware that they took O level, hence they prefer to start afresh in another new JC for A level, where nobody know their background.


                So your assumption that simply based on psle tscore that dunman height is ranked number 3, is wrong.

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                  Augmum
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                  besty:
                  How do we know how DHS fairs in terms of A level performance? When searching for A level performance school ranking, I found that DHS is always being left out! All the JCs are listed by ranking but there is no DHS! I believe DHS should rank number 3, after RJC and HCI, since by PSLE cop it's ranked number 5, after nygs, ri, rgs & hci?
                  besty:

                  Another way of putting my point across is: since DHS received a batch of S1 students who did better in psle compared to say Vic (on average, based on psle cop), at the end of 6 years, I would expect DHS's A level performance is better than Vjc's IP batch. If not, then something is not good enough about DHS's IP program, or maybe namely the year 5 & 6 program.
                  As there is NO official ranking of JCs done by MOE...So what some pple did was to compile their own ranking list based on COP of these JCs ...
                  Since DHS n RVHS do not admit O level pupils fr JAE...they are being excluded in the ranking list...

                  During JAE, the Top JCs hv the \" privilege\" to pick students who excel in their O level exams ( the late bloomers) to \"further strengthen\" their existing cohort...(besides admitting good psle performers)...

                  Thus, u cant simply based on the COP of DHS alone to say that \" becos the COP of DHS is higher than VS , so would expect DHS's A level performance has to be better than VJC...otherwise, something is not good enough about DHS's IP program\"...

                  Also, do take note that students who DSAed to DHS... some of whom i know ....came in via DSA Sports, their PSLE agg scores were nowhere near the COP...fell in the range of 23x - 24X ( of coz, I dont mean VS doesnt hv this range of DSA pupils)...

                  Nevertheless...to give u a rough idea...
                  From the P's speech to the whole cohort...after the release of the A level results
                  DHS A level results performance ( as seen in recent yrs) is relatively, almost on par with NJC n VJC .... these 2 well established JCs since decades ago...

                  BUT DHS took a much shorter time frame to attain this level...

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                  • B Offline
                    besty
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                    Thanks phtthp! I am so in need to discuss this with someone!

                    Agree on your point A! So NJC VJC will continue to accept good JAE students, while DHS does not…
                    On your point B, I know what you are saying, but don’t quite agree, cos those problems such as low tscore of dsa students, bad time management, play too much computer, over commitment in cca, can’t cope w IP, family background issues… actually applies to all students similarly. So I wouldn’t consider this point, unless we are saying DHS students are MORE PRONE TO such problems?! No la, can’t be right? If DHS students really indeed are MORE PRONE TO such problems, then I will be very worried about putting my child there 😆

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                      besty
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                      Thanks Augmum, your ‘rough idea’ gives me reassurance!!

                      You know, I wonder, how VJC will fair in A level results when their first batch of IP finishes A levels! If by then, VJC 's A level results is still better than DHS’s, I will be really impressed with VJC! Because, if it generally basically would have transform a batch of students with lower psle tscores than DHS to become a batch of students with better A level results, it’s great. Yes I know there will still be the good JAE students factor (if they will still be taking in), but I believe these will become minority compared to their own IP students by then?
                      And if this really happens, I will really think there is something not v strong about DHS’s IP program…
                      My point is, u see, students who went into nygs ri rgs hci, they went in as tops and finished A levels still as tops in general. In a way, their systems are proven. Whether it’s academic or the way the schools nurture those good students in their overall development and positive go-go-get-it mindset which in the end land them still as tops. I am very impressed.

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                        zbear
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                        besty:
                        Thanks Augmum, your 'rough idea' gives me reassurance!!

                        You know, I wonder, how VJC will fair in A level results when their first batch of IP finishes A levels! If by then, VJC 's A level results is still better than DHS's, I will be really impressed with VJC! Because, if it generally basically would have transform a batch of students with lower psle tscores than DHS to become a batch of students with better A level results, it's great. Yes I know there will still be the good JAE students factor (if they will still be taking in), but I believe these will become minority compared to their own IP students by then?
                        And if this really happens, I will really think there is something not v strong about DHS's IP program..
                        My point is, u see, students who went into nygs ri rgs hci, they went in as tops and finished A levels still as tops in general. In a way, their systems are proven. Whether it's academic or the way the schools nurture those good students in their overall development and positive go-go-get-it mindset which in the end land them still as tops. I am very impressed.

                        Hello betsy, I am very curious as to why you are analyzing VJC n DHS in such depths?

                        Are you planning to send your kids via DSA to both VJC n DHS

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