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    RI’s ‘O’ level scores: only one in 10 qualified for JC.

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    • starlight1968sgS Offline
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      Totally shocked, even as an outsider.

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      • phtthpP Offline
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        Yes, shocking !


        20+ points very hard to get into a good Junior College, nor into a good course at the Polytechnic.
        Poly also look at grades, to determine which faculty to enter.

        perhaps they can re-take "O" level as a private candidate, try again one more time. Be focused, this time.
        if can get better "O" level results : can enter back JC, next round.

        think perhaps it is the over commitment in Sports training, a few times per week (very siong) which the school require, that lead them to "no time to study, properly".

        This is a wake-up call, for those who intend to DSA via Sports, into Secondary schools, esp. the Top Tier IP schools

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        • JenniferJ Offline
          Jennifer
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          phtthp:
          20+ points very hard to get into a good Junior College, nor into a good course at the Polytechnic


          perhaps they can re-take \"O\" level as a private candidate, try again one more time.
          if can get better \"O\" level results : can enter back JC, next round.

          think perhaps it is the over commitment in Sports training, a few times per week (very siong) which the school require, that lead them to \"no time to study, properly\".

          This is a wake-up call, for those who intend to DSA via Sports, into Secondary schools.
          Think again about DSA via sports into a IP sec sch.

          Students in Singapore Sports School also train. From the recent reports, the students did fairly well in the academic aspects.

          It is which sec sch the sports students choose that make a difference.

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          • phtthpP Offline
            phtthp
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            Jennifer:

            Think again about DSA via sports into a IP sec sch.

            Students in Singapore Sports School also train. From the recent reports, the students did fairly well in the academic aspects.

            It is which sec sch the sports students choose that make a difference.
            if this happen to RI, how did RGS girls (also IP school) fare, in the \"on-demand\" O level class ?

            or in any IP Secondary schools, with the \"on-demand\" O level class, those who DSA in via Sports ?
            How did NYGH \"O\" level class, perform ?

            Dunman High, also have one such similar class, around 15 to 20 students.
            How did Dunman High \"O\" level students, perform ?

            How about River Valley High ?


            NJC don't have any on-demand \"O\" level class
            If child can't cope with IP, NJC will help student first, try their best to cope.
            But if still can't cope after trying, NJC will ask student to leave

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            • sharonkhooS Offline
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              I don’t think it’s fair to call it an ‘O’ level "track" - it’s for those who are struggling with the regular Raffles Program, so are arguably the few weakest students whose other option would have been to leave. It’s not like some other IP schools which have a real dual-track system.


              And RGS doesn’t have an ‘O’ level class.

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              • JenniferJ Offline
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                slmkhoo:
                I don't think it's fair to call it an 'O' level \"track\" - it's for those who are struggling with the regular Raffles Program, so are arguably the few weakest students whose other option would have been to leave. It's not like some other IP schools which have a real dual-track system.


                And RGS doesn't have an 'O' level class.
                That's why I posted \"It is which sec sch the sports students choose that make a difference.\"

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                • phtthpP Offline
                  phtthp
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                  starlight1968sg:
                  Totally shocked, even as an outsider.

                  For DSA : only need minimum 200 T-score, can enter RI, or any IP school

                  But, what was the official COP, for their batch ? 259
                  So much wide difference !
                  59 points difference, very huge !

                  Think this mininum DSA entry score at 200, need to be re-visited.
                  Maybe need to revise upwards
                  200 is set far too low


                  Another area to evaluate is :-
                  How well did RI Tr prepare their IP students, for O level curriculum ?

                  Bear in mind that RI was never an O level school in the first place, unlike Victoria boys Sec, Cedar girls Sec, Catholic High boys, St nick girls.

                  Thus, when RI open up this on-demand class, have MOE sent any official down so far to RI premises, check their O level curriculum preparation for RI students in nitty gritty detail, subject by subject, topic by topic, compare and contrast how much difference or deviation (if any) in the way RI teach O level students, vs those traditional O level Secondary schools ?

                  Traditional O level Secondary schools prepare their Sec 3 / Sec 4 students, very comprehensive, detailed step by step

                  Did RI teachers who teach this on demand O level class adopt a similar approach as these Traditional O level schools, or did the Tr deviate much, since the Teachers in RI are more IP type of Tr methodology ?

                  Moe need to send official down, to study in detail how they prepare this class of students, for O level

                  The fact that so many of them scored around 20+ points, indicate something not right, somewhere. Is it possible to be O level teaching methodology ?

                  Bear in mind : RI does not offer a proper O level track, in the first case.

                  Who are the RI teachers, involved in teaching this O level class, preparing them to sit for O level ?
                  How many of them ?
                  What kind of teaching methodology, did these Subject Tr apply in class ?

                  Are these Tr involved :
                  Any experience before, in teaching any O level school, before posted to RI to teach ?
                  Or are they fresh graduates from NIE, assigned to teach this class of students ?
                  What is their teaching qualification, and teaching experience for O level, like ?

                  Someone from Moe need to follow up this, closely.
                  Why ?
                  Because year in, year out, every batch of P6 students, apply for dsa into RI.
                  In the event that the children are sent to this class, one must not assume that Tr teaching this class, know how to teach them, guide them properly for O level, unless parents have the facts laid before them.
                  We do not assume blindly that all RI tr know how to teach O level, just becàuse it is RI.
                  We parents need to bear in mind one underlying fact :
                  RI never offer O level track, in the first place

                  Or

                  Is it because students simply no time to study, due to heavy commitment in Sports ?

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                  • H Offline
                    havok_ex
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                    IMO it feels like a complacency problem by the Teachers. Even for Neighbourhood secondary schools, we have psle score of ~200 but we still can get below 20 and below 10. Did the students practice TYS? One of the students said that they felt smth was wrong while doing the o-level paper. Feels like he didn’t practice the tys at all.

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                      slmkhoo:
                      I don't think it's fair to call it an 'O' level \"track\" - it's for those who are struggling with the regular Raffles Program, so are arguably the few weakest students whose other option would have been to leave. It's not like some other IP schools which have a real dual-track system.


                      And RGS doesn't have an 'O' level class.
                      Regardless of whether RI IP track or what, the very fact that these 16 year old boys in RI are sitting for major GCE O level exam, is not to be taken lightly.

                      If the children have to sit for O level exam, then make sure that RI prepare them adequately, exactly in the same manner as any typical O level student, from Those Traditional O level schools

                      If RI lack experienced O level Tr to teach this class, then the Principal of RI should SOS Moe, send down a few very experienced Tr from HQ, who had several years & had gone through several batches of experience, in handling & dealing with students, to guide & prepare them adequately for major O level exam

                      Poor thing
                      These children had sacrificed so much of their precious 4 years of golden time, effort & energy, to win glory in Sports for RI, at the expense of their studies

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